Skip to comments.Liberals to Choose 2008 GOP Candidate
Posted on 01/05/2006 8:00:38 PM PST by WatchYourself
One of the liberal favorites for this treatment is Rudy Giuliani who, when actually in office, constantly bedeviled the left. Up until 9/11, he was portrayed as a bull-headed, dictatorial, tin god who was insensitive to minorities and in general, a detestable bully. Sure, hes a pro-abortion, gun-grabbing, gay rights advocate, but what good was that when he was merely a mayor?
Now that they see him as a national figure, he is the epitome of all that secular liberals love; a divorced Catholic at odds with the Church over some of its most sacred public stances. But despite the fact that most conservatives would shun his candidacy like the plague, liberal pundits will nonetheless chant Rudy, Rudy, Rudy, for months to come.
Likewise, many in the media dream of reboarding the Straight-Talk Express of maverick John McCain. How they love his wry charisma, his quick wit and especially the way he wrote a new Bill of Rights for terrorists after perverting the original one to silence political free speech in the name of campaign finance reform.
Can McCain garner enough backing from those on the right to win the nomination? Given their support for most of the Bush agenda, youd think not. But again, the media think conservatives are too stupid to remember that McCain was considered so anti-Bush, he was reportedly offered the number two slot with John Kerry in 2004...
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McCain? Is that an Indian name? If not, why is he getting all of those contributions from Indians?
Giuliani would be a fine Attorney General...
Rudy would make a much better president then McCain.
McCain / Guiliani = RINO dream ticket
Rudy is a gun grabbing, illegal alien loving, corrupt scumbag. He aint gonna make it past the Michigan primary.
Your point about Rudy being anti-gun is very correct and this is something I do not like about him at all. However, he isn't corrupt and IMHO, he's not a scumbag. I've also seen no evidence that he loves illegal aliens. Please do come forth with evidence. That is, of course, evidence that isn't about Kerik's employees...no offense, but that would be lame. I'm willing to listen to ANYTHING you guys have to put forth that is fair, but please don't put forth crap like that.
2. Google "Ray Harding" and you will see what Rudy's best friends have been up to. We are all judged by the company we keep.
Rudy is a scumbag who is beloved by the media for a reason. Remember that most of his votes came from NEW YORK DEMOCRATS.
Another braindead Noo Yawk post reader I see.
The writer is delusional. Rudy has zero chances in getting the GOP nod. Dittos for McCain.
Oh you tricky thing!
Im pro-choice. Im pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. No, I have not supported that, and I dont see my position on that changing, he responded.
Source: CNN.com, Inside Politics Dec 2, 1999
---Your point about Rudy being anti-gun is very correct and this is something I do not like about him at all. However, he isn't corrupt and IMHO, he's not a scumbag.---
Anyone that's a gun-grabber is a scumbag by definition. :^)
Rudy thinks a ban on partial-birth abortion (i.e. infanticide) is ridiculous.
He's a liberal period.
I think he's generally a RINO because of his stands on social issues. I guess it all depends how important that is to you. You raise good points. Not all RINOs are equal and Rudy is an extremely likable candidate. Also good patriot.
Yeah, will agree with you on that. Some people use the term RINO without the slightest clue being a RINO is not substitution for the word "Liberal". A person can be a Liberal Republican without the two being in conflict.
Why this needs to keep being repeated over and over is beyond me though. It would seem easy to comprehend.
A RINO is someone that runs as a Republican, but is loyal to the Party In name only. Note---Not loyal to conservatism in name only. That is a CINO, which Rudy is not either since he doesn't pretend to be conservative except on only a couple of issues where he can legitimate claim so.
Lindsey Graham is a CINO.
Bloomberg is a RINO. Actually, he's not even a RINO. Everyone knows he's a Democrat in N.Y.C.
Chafee, though, IS a RINO. No loyalty whatsoever to party but come election time wants the President's support that he, himself, wouldn't offer in the President's re-election bid.
I like Rudy, but I'm not voting him in the primary. However, being more Liberal then me I still will credit he's good on WOT, loyal to the Prez and Party and would be 10 times better then the Dems or McCain. Still not voting for him in the primary, still hoping a conservative Republican with a spine shows up to run.
McCain is an egotistical unstable controlling weaselly little opportunistic back stabber that I'll be damned first before ever considering him as President. I urge all Republicans running against McCain to wait until he has a Live audience the networks have to cover, then make him blow that short fuse he has similiar to Howie's famous screech. I want the little napolean exposed to America for the loose cannon he is.
The article is right though. The MSM isn't picking our candidate, neither are the Lordships in the U.S. Senate.
And, just to add, there is a reason I'm not registered as a Republican. The reason is that I won't pledge allegiance to the Republican Party. I am a conservative registered as an Independent. I have pledged allegiance to conservatism before a political party. I use the Republican Party as a means to an end.
Someone can be both a conservative and a Republican, but the dualities of loyalty often conflict and since I'm not running for office I see no point in subjecting myself to that internal conflict.
Rudy is a far left wing, gun grabbing, for the murder of unborn and he loves the queer life style .
He screamed worse than Dean about Florida selling guns.
I know that big City people have a herd mentality.
If they like Rudy, have him run against Madam W. J. Clinton for the senate.
We do not need his type in federal government. We have too many of his ilk already.
I'm not either. Living in Illinois, I go to the polls on primary election day, they ask me which ballot I want, I tell them and they hand it to me. Nobody is a registered anything.
It's a crying shame we have to say "conservatives and Republicans" to call the tent to order. I can remember the day when the words were synonyms.
The very definition of a RINO is a liberal Republican.
I like your comment about prodding John McCain in the primaries at some televised event, and watching this unstable turncoat B@ST@RD have a volcanic explosion & meltdown on national TV! Ohhh would I love to see that!
I urge all Republicans running against McCain to wait until he has a Live audience the networks have to cover, then make him blow that short fuse he has similiar to Howie's famous screech. I want the little napolean exposed to America for the loose cannon he is.
It's telling that the Log Cabin Republicans declined to support Bush for President in 2004, yet they stand by Rudy Giuliani.
"The president's support of the federal Marriage Amendment, and (political strategist) Karl Rove's decision to use gay and lesbian Americans as wedge issues ... and the outrageous and insulting platform language has jeopardized that endorsement," said Patrick Guerriero, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans.
The organization Sunday drew hundreds of supporters for a "Big Tent" Log Cabin event, which included New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
But the group's leaders said the views of moderate Republicans being showcased at the convention, such as Bloomberg and California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, clearly are at odds with the message the party is sending to the nation with its platform.
"The Republican Party can't have it both ways," Guerriero said. "They can't run a radical right campaign strategy that marginalizes gay and lesbians, and at the same put all of Log Cabin's friends out front at this convention.
"This party has a choice to make, about whether it will be the party of (former New York mayor) Rudy Giuliani and Arnold Schwarzenegger or the party of Jerry Falwell and Pat Buchanan,'' he said. ...
"The Log Cabin Republicans, Giuliani, and Schwarzenegger are the future of this party.''
He's not just to the left of Bush, he's to the left of many Democrats.
"I'll uphold a woman's right of choice," and, "I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal." -- Rudy Giuliani, Sept. 1, 1989
MR. GIULIANI: Well, I don't think it's right for decision at this point. I think this should play itself out in more states. I certainly wouldn't support it at this time, but I don't think this is one of the critical issues.
Rudy would beat Hillary like a drum. (No other candidate at this point would). Also, he would make a great, articulate leader of the WOT.
He is radically pro-abortion and serious social conservatives will reject him for that reason alone. I know two people in myown household who would skip the presidential race if he were on the ballot.
Maybe you'd like to clarify when that day was? To my recollection before the rise of conservatives the Northeastern Republicans controlled the Party (Liberal Republicans) and that was why it was the minority party for decades. Reagan ran against the establishment, meaning, Liberal Republicans. He was the anamoly, not the synonym.
If the two-- conservatism/Republicanism-- were joined it was long before most people living today were alive.
I reject your statement until/IF you can prove otherwise.
Maybe, but he's still infinitely better than McCain, who's about two steps ahead of the guys with the white coats and butterfly nets, IMHO.
Doesn't matter anyway - neither one has a prayer of coming close to the GOP nomination. The New York Times did not pick the new Pope, and they sure as hell aren't going to pick the 2008 GOP nominee.
I think he's from one of the lesser known tribes, the Pile-o'-Hockie Tribe. They were a nomadic type, preferring to upturn and destroy established villages, rather than building one of their own. Trading Post Reform was their claim to fame, until it was discovered they had eagle feathers of their own that were never disclosed. Although the tribe was officially disbanded and scattered long ago, a few have continued to exert pow-wow power in places of commerce and politics. John "Running Bare" McCain is such an example.
LOL. Let's hope that old Running Bare gets scalped on or before the '08 GOP primaries.
Besides, "Running Bare' make heap big wampum exempt from Great Spirit of Campaign Finance Reform. You could look it up.
LOL! No need to look it up. Just notice the scalps Running Bare proudly displays. The only scalp that seems to have escaped was Traficant's hair piece. Barbara Boxer is now wearing it.
McCain's Pirate Name is Black Jack Cash.
How about early November, 1980?
I am looking forward to this jolly good sporting event...the liberal follies without a clue.
You believe the Republican Party was conservative in 1980?
And don't tell me because Reagan was nominated. Reagan was one man and it took him several tries to finally win the right to represent. We're speaking of the Party here.
If you are going to contend the republican Party was akin to conservatism in meaning, go back, get the votes...the records...the Senators...and PROVE the majority represented conservatism in context of the times.
I can no more do that than jump through the rim of my rectum and disappear.
The longer I think about this, the more I remember Bob Dole, Howard Baker.....etc.
I guess this is just another good reason for the northeastern US to secede so the rest of us can live like Americans.