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Iran leader's messianic end-times mission (Ahmadinejad raises concerns with mystical visions)
World Net Daily ^ | January 6, 2005

Posted on 01/06/2006 6:46:21 AM PST by NYer

Iranian President Mahmoud's Ahmadinejad's mystical pre-occupation with the coming of a Shiite Islamic messiah figure – the Mahdi – is raising concerns that a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.

While Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been making headlines lately by questioning whether the Holocaust actually happened, by suggesting Israel should be moved to Europe and by demanding the Jewish state be wiped off the face of the earth, his apocalyptic religious zealotry has received less attention.

In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.

He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven.


Ahmadinejad at the U.N.

According to a transcript of his comments, obtained and translated by Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, Ahmadinejad wasn't the only one who noticed the unearthly light. One of his aides brought it to his attention.

The Iranian president recalled being told about it by one of his delegation: "When you began with the words ‘in the name of Allah,' I saw a light coming, surrounding you and protecting you to the end."

Ahmadinejad agreed that he sensed the same thing.

"On the last day when I was speaking, one of our group told me that when I started to say 'Bismillah Muhammad,' he saw a green light come from around me, and I was placed inside this aura," he says. "I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn't move an eyelid, I'm not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes – Alhamdulillah!"

Ahmadinejad's "vision" at the U.N. is strangely reminiscent and alarmingly similar to statements he has made about his personal role in ushering in the return of the Shiite Muslim messiah.

He sees his main mission, as he recounted in a Nov. 16 speech in Tehran, as to "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance."

According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.

Ahmadinejad is urging Iranians to prepare for the coming of the Mahdi by turning the country into a mighty and advanced Islamic society and by avoiding the corruption and excesses of the West.

All Iran is buzzing about the Mahdi, the 12th imam and the role Iran and Ahmadinejad are playing in his anticipated return. There's a new messiah hotline. There are news agencies especially devoted to the latest developments.

"People are anxious to know when and how will He rise; what they must do to receive this worldwide salvation," says Ali Lari, a cleric at the Bright Future Institute in Iran's religious center of Qom. "The timing is not clear, but the conditions are more specific," he adds. "There is a saying: 'When the students are ready, the teacher will come.'"

For his part, Ahmadinejad is living up to at least part of his call to the faithful. According to reports, he lives so modestly that declared assets include only a 30-year-old car, an even older house and an empty bank account.

Ahmadinejad and others in Iran are deadly serious about the imminent return of the 12th imam, who will prompt a global battle between good and evil (with striking parallels to biblical accounts of "Armageddon").

An institute set up in 2004 for the study and dissemination of information about the Mahdi now has a staff of 160 and influence in the schools and children's magazines.

In Iran, theologians say endtimes beliefs appeal to one-fifth of the population. And the Jamkaran mosque east of Qom, 60 miles south of Tehran, is where the link between devotees and the Mahdi is closest.

Ahmadinejad's cabinet has given $17 million to Jamkaran.

Shiite writings describe events surrounding the return of the Mahdi in apocalyptic terms. In one scenario, the forces of evil would come from Syria and Iraq and clash with forces of good from Iran. The battle would commence at Kufa – the Iraqi town near the holy city of Najaf.

Even more controversial is Ahmadinejad's repeated invocation of Imam Mahdi, known as "the Savior of Times." According to Shiite tradition, Imam Mahdi will appear on Judgment Day to herald a truly just government.

Missed by some observers in Ahmadinejad's speech at the U.N. was his call to the "mighty Lord" to hasten the emergence of "the promised one," the one who "will fill this world with justice and peace."


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Editor's note: This story is adapted from the latest issue of Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the weekly, online, premium intelligence newsletter published by the founder of WND.
1 posted on 01/06/2006 6:46:25 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
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2 posted on 01/06/2006 6:47:12 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: SJackson

Ping!


3 posted on 01/06/2006 6:47:56 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer; eyespysomething
will set the stage for the end of the world.

Typically, doomsday prophets don't bother me. But doomsday prophets with ambitions for nuclear weapons and Sharon no longer in charge in Israel can be quite unnerving.

4 posted on 01/06/2006 6:49:17 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: NYer
If the Iranian Campaign isn't wrapped up by the time Hillary takes office in January, 2009, we will lose one or more cities to nuclear terrorism in the years to follow.
5 posted on 01/06/2006 6:50:05 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: NYer

Somebody needs to pop a cap in Ahmadinejad's mystical frontal lobe, pronto.


6 posted on 01/06/2006 6:50:38 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: SittinYonder

I agree.

Doomsday prophets + nuclear weapons in said person's possession = unnerving

or

dp+nw=un


7 posted on 01/06/2006 6:51:44 AM PST by eyespysomething (This space intentionally left blank......oh crud)
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To: NYer
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8 posted on 01/06/2006 6:53:07 AM PST by traumer
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To: Flyer; Eaker; humblegunner; thackney; TheMom; Xenalyte; BurFred

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9 posted on 01/06/2006 6:53:17 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans)
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To: NYer
When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.

That is exactly what Revelations say about the reign of the anti-christ. They will be one and the same.

The bible also says that Israel will be attacked by a force so overwhelming that there is no way that they could repel it, but the attackers will be utterly destroyed and there will be no doubt that it was only done by the hand of G_d.

10 posted on 01/06/2006 6:53:46 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

'Zactly what I was thinking.


12 posted on 01/06/2006 6:54:31 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: NYer

Anyone think the Euro-weenies are taking this seriously. Nah, nevermind.


13 posted on 01/06/2006 6:55:15 AM PST by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: eyespysomething
dp+nw=un

Hmm ... eyespy's theory of enervation

14 posted on 01/06/2006 6:57:47 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I doubt if we have to 2007, myself. But I might be a pessimist...


15 posted on 01/06/2006 6:58:17 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: SittinYonder

Publish it!


16 posted on 01/06/2006 6:59:41 AM PST by eyespysomething (This space intentionally left blank......oh crud)
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To: NYer

Interesting read here: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michael/ledeen122005.php3

>snip<

JJA: "Tenet pretended to leave. He had to. He and the president realized that the only way to generate public support for a vigorous campaign of regime change in Iran, was if everyone was totally frightened. But the mullahs were too smart to let that happen, they had all these sly reformers who pretended to be somehow ready to make a nice deal with us. You know, Rafsanjani, Khatami, all those smooth talkers with their clever slogans tailor made for Western intellectuals, "dialogue of civilizations," etc. etc..."


ML: "And so, you're saying, CIA spotted Ahmadi Nezhad, recruited him, and..."


JJA: "And ran him. And bought off enough mullahs to get him named president."


ML: "And now?"


JJA: "And now they're running him. That is, Tenet's running him. That's what Tenet is doing. Forget all that nonsense about writing a book. He'll never write a book. He's too busy sabotaging Iran."


17 posted on 01/06/2006 7:01:38 AM PST by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: SittinYonder
"But doomsday prophets with ambitions for nuclear weapons and Sharon no longer in charge in Israel can be quite unnerving."

Especially because Israel has now lost the only man who had the b-lls to do something, proactively, about the weapons and their delivery systems. Sharon would have taken them out, just like Menachem Begin. A liberal will wring his hands and beseech the UN to help negotiate.

18 posted on 01/06/2006 7:05:37 AM PST by tom h
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To: AD from SpringBay
Somebody needs to pop a cap in Ahmadinejad's mystical frontal lobe, pronto.


19 posted on 01/06/2006 7:06:35 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Yeah, that too.


20 posted on 01/06/2006 7:08:14 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: NYer
Ahmadinejad raises concerns with mystical visions)

How the MSM works:
Dubya says J. Christ is the philosopher that most influences him, later
says "freedom is a gift from Heaven" (and acts like he believes it)...
and derisive guffaws are the round of the day in the MSM.
VS.
The leader of Iran tells the world he has mystical, apocalyptic visions
while his country is building a nuclear arsenal...and the
story is quietly shuffled to the back pages.
21 posted on 01/06/2006 7:10:58 AM PST by VOA
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To: NYer
Shiite Islamic messiah figure – the Mahdi –

Possibly better known to Christians as the 'Anti-Christ.

The Muslims are waiting for their messiah, Satan, we Christians are also. It will usher in the tribulation and the return of Jesus Christ.

Two witnesses will prophesy for 1,260 days, the beast will kill them and they will lay in the street 3 1/2 days. Only because of the internet and satellite will it be possible for all the world to view them.

22 posted on 01/06/2006 7:12:16 AM PST by Dustbunny (My goal in life is to be as good of a person that my dogs already think I am.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; Uncle Mom; brytlea
"That is exactly what Revelations say about the reign of the anti-christ. They will be one and the same. "

Well, that's not exactly what the Bible says in Revelation but close enough -- especially since you're quoting the media. But there is nothing about the antiChrist reigning for seven years. THAT is the time during which the Great Tribulation happens, ending with the return of Christ. The Anti-Christ ushers it in with a sham peace treaty that he compels Israel to sign.

What's more creepy is that the passage from the Muslim "Holy Book" proves how false a religion it is, and how bogus Mohammed was. He was so unoriginal he could only paraphrase the words of Revelation, which was written 900 years earlier, and write them as gospel in his own fraudulent work.

"I'm just wondering if we could use this to find a common ground between our Christian end stories and their weird ones. "

Yes, there is a common ground. It's that both stories will lead to one series of events, and that one people (Muslims) will be led falsely. The common ground is that prophecy will be fulfilled in our lifetimes.

23 posted on 01/06/2006 7:12:47 AM PST by tom h
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To: NYer

Oh, and IIRC the MSM chuckled when it was revealed that Reagan did
have concerns about an apocalypse when dealing with nuclear arms issues
(implying he was some sort of religious nut)


24 posted on 01/06/2006 7:12:49 AM PST by VOA
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That is exactly what Revelations say about the reign of the anti-christ. They will be one and the same."

That was my first reaction when I read about the 7 year reign.
26 posted on 01/06/2006 7:21:55 AM PST by keats5
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To: NYer; dennisw; vrwc0915; Grampa Dave

I think that Ahmadinejad is setting the stage to announce that HE is the 12th Mahdi.

Keep in mind, it's his goal to wreck the world economy, and out of the resulting global chaos, usher in a new worldwide Islamic Caliphate.

In March, Iran opens a "petro-euro" bourse, a direct attack on the status of the US dollar as the world's "reserve currency." Iranian and possibly Venezuelan crude will have to be purchased in Euro-denominated contracts.

China, Russia and Europe will probably participate, because Ahmadinejad will sell Iranian crude at discount values. His goal, remember, is not to maximize Iranian profits, but to wreck the global economy, beginning with the Great Satan USA, and its dollar.


27 posted on 01/06/2006 7:31:56 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: SittinYonder
Typically, doomsday prophets don't bother me. But doomsday prophets with ambitions for nuclear weapons and Sharon no longer in charge in Israel can be quite unnerving.

Any muslim who truly follow the words of the koran with his hands on nukes bothers me.

It is insane to allow any islamic nation nukes because at sometime a devout muslim will be in control of those weapons with "divine" orders to destroy non-muslims.

28 posted on 01/06/2006 7:38:15 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Blood of Tyrants; tom h; Uncle Mom

If you would care to read more about the muslim "end times" from a man trying to warn people about the belief in an imminent apocalypse, see this post....it may help to explain the terrorist mindset, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1552188/posts


29 posted on 01/06/2006 7:40:09 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That is exactly what Revelations say about the reign of the anti-christ. They will be one and the same.

That would make sense, since Mohammed's "Gabriel" was most likely Satan.

30 posted on 01/06/2006 7:40:23 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: NYer

"He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech."

Probably just a glare off of Chirac's oily forehead.


32 posted on 01/06/2006 7:43:52 AM PST by Stew Padasso ("That boy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.")
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To: AD from SpringBay

Solid-state lasers would also be deadly. In a recent demonstration at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory — one of three sites of research on a solid-state laser — a test-fired laser emitted 400 pulses of light in two seconds, drilling through an inch of steel, the Tribune reported.

Maybe this is the light that he was seeing!


33 posted on 01/06/2006 7:53:23 AM PST by toomanylaws
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To: NYer
Iranian President Mahmoud's Ahmadinejad's mystical pre-occupation with the coming of a Shiite Islamic messiah figure – the Mahdi – is raising concerns that a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.

This guy needs assassinated, STAT!

34 posted on 01/06/2006 7:54:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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To: NYer
I don't think the Shia use the terminology Mahdi to describe the so-called Twelfth Imam.
35 posted on 01/06/2006 7:57:40 AM PST by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: Travis McGee

Islamic nutters and Jihadists love chaos in the event they cannot acquire power. Chaos is their friend and second choice.

This Ahmandinejad is worse than most on this and RUNS IRAN!! Bad news since he will have nukes. Some of his posturing is acting like a destructive mad man to make others fear to mess with Iran


36 posted on 01/06/2006 8:00:37 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: Uncle Mom

Uncle Mom, obviously I was speaking from the maniac's point of view.

Sorry you didn't get it.


37 posted on 01/06/2006 8:05:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: dennisw

Chaos is indeed their friend. Just look at Gaza to see what these islamikazis do when they achieve power.


38 posted on 01/06/2006 8:06:58 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee; All

IMHO, I don't know how many countries now receiving US "Aid", but any country that DOES go "Euro" should be IMMEDIATELY cut off from ANY US taxpayers hard earned dollars AND ANY AND ALL US military support......


39 posted on 01/06/2006 8:07:14 AM PST by musicman
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To: Uncle Mom

No problem.


41 posted on 01/06/2006 8:11:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Uncle Mom

They do what they've done since the time of the pervert. Twist much of the Bible into a blasphemous tome known as the Koran.

His freakishness is reminiscent of a scene from either the first or second book from the Left Behind Series.


42 posted on 01/06/2006 8:12:02 AM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: itsamelman

Thanks for the link and the post. Not surprised.


43 posted on 01/06/2006 8:12:42 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: keats5
7 years is about the only common thing. Revelations states that the antichrist will be from the West, not the East. Someone from the EU would be a more accurate place to look. I've never heard or seen anything from the Scriptures that says the antichrist would come from Iran/Iraq.

Personal commentary: There's been a lot of speculation posted on this and other threads about Christian End Times scenarios, antichrist identity, etc. There's no nice way to put it, but I'm compelled to say it: Folks, you're not very well informed as to what the Bible actually says and doesn't say about the subject and its who, what, where, when, why and how. Educate yourselves. We'd say the same thing to each other if we were talking about another subject, such as iPods or HD TV sets, and making inaccurate or uninformed statements.

There are numerous resources - but first read the Bible! Books of Daniel, Gospel of Matthew, Revelation are a good starting point. Hal Lindsey's book "Late Great Planet Earth" is a good overview of what the Bible actually says. Start there, but just start the process.

I'm not an authority, but I'm informed. You can be too. If I've made you mad or uncomfortable with my comments, I hope you forgive me for the upset feelings and then act on the suggestions.

It's an exciting time to live given where we are on God's prophetic timetable as presented in the Bible. We don't have to be ignorant about it, and there's more to the Bible than prophecy - such as what God thinks of mankind (and womankind, too), life, death and eternity.

44 posted on 01/06/2006 8:13:53 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Lazamataz
When you care enough to send the very best!


45 posted on 01/06/2006 8:20:22 AM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: nuconvert

Thank you, I'll read that.


46 posted on 01/06/2006 8:27:00 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracy theorist....really.)
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To: SittinYonder
I have heard a theory which might or might not be reasonable.

It is this; Iran gets nuclear weapons, saber rattles Europe. Europe tries to appease. Iran attacks Israel because Europe is too weak/unwilling to retaliate. Does this sound reasonable to any of you?
47 posted on 01/06/2006 8:31:45 AM PST by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: NYer
"he saw a green light"

My sources told me hell's level 72 shines green.
48 posted on 01/06/2006 8:35:09 AM PST by Teletubbed (Multiculturalism, (coll. Paradise), [Successor of Communism], Leftist-approved, Islamic Revolution)
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To: Travis McGee
If we had the balls back when the unrest was high (the students rioting,ect) We could have sent a few advisor's and some air power and have a friendlier gov in Iran. Now we are going to have to deal with them the hard way quite possibly after they have nukes
49 posted on 01/06/2006 9:35:55 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: NYer

"The mullah who would be fuhrer".


50 posted on 01/06/2006 9:37:53 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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