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Serious Questions on Sourcing in Mine 'Rescue' Story Remain
Editor & Publisher ^ | January 5, 2006 | Joe Strupp & Greg Mitchell

Posted on 01/06/2006 7:56:40 AM PST by billorites

NEW YORK As newspapers conduct damage control after early Wednesday's error, in which most wrongly reported that 12 trapped miners had been rescued in West Virginia, many editors are defending their mistake by saying they were misled by various sources, including the state's governor. Yet, even after extensive follow-up coverage today, serious questions about the sourcing, and its use, remain.

"AP was reporting accurately the information that we were provided by credible sources -- family members and the governor," AP managing editor Mike Silverman has said. "The mistake was not ours, it was the authorities at the scene," Leonard Downie Jr., executive editor of the Washington Post, told E&P Wednesday.

But what information actually came out during those fateful three hours, starting late Tuesday? Did reporters misinterpret what they heard or fail to raise doubts about credibility? What was most surprising in the many follow-up stories today was how few fresh details were added about sourcing -- including any mention of a single new source not already identified. Despite repeated attempts by E&P to reach reporters at the scene, none have yet responded.


Here we will provide the first step-by-step chronology from a strictly journalistic perspective. So what do we know, or think we know?

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The first AP report came through just before midnight, stating in its lead, "Twelve miners caught in an explosion in a coal mine were found alive Tuesday night, more than 41 hours after the blast, family members said." The short dispatch did not quote family members by name, saying only that "relatives were yelling 'they're alive!'"

That initial story clearly stated that neither the governor nor the International Coal Group Inc., which operates the mine, had confirmed the news.

Between 12:02 a.m. and 12:18 a.m., four similar dispatches were sent, all sourcing only the families, and still indicating no confirmation from the governor or the coal company.

At 12:34 a.m., the first comment from Gov. Joe Manchin, who was with the miners' families, appeared. AP quoted him as saying, "They told us they have 12 alive. We have some people that are going to need some medical attention." It did not describe who "they" were, how Manchin had discovered this, and if this was an official announcement or on-the-fly.

Many newspapers have also attributed to Manchin a statement from this time period that "miracles do happen" (as The New York Times later had it) or "miracles happen," or "Believe in miracles" (CNN) -- none of which was exactly "a miracle did happen."

We now know, from Manchin and others, that he had been in the Sago Baptist Church when very unofficial word of a rescue filtered in, perhaps via cell phone, setting off a wild celebration. He joined in briefly, and then asked aides if they had actual confirmation.

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports today, "Mr. Manchin turned to his security crew, which was in regular contact with mine company executives and rescue teams. 'Did anyone call us?' the governor asked. 'No, sir,' said the state trooper who was monitoring every development. 'We haven't heard anything?' 'No,' the trooper repeated."

At this point Manchin hastily exited, perhaps making his "medical attention" and "miracles" statements as he left.

On Thursday, the AP carried this account of this crucial period: "Manchin had been in the church praying with the families when the unidentified man made the announcement (that the men were safe). He looked around at his troopers and communications people in puzzlement. 'Have we confirmed that?' he asked. No, was the reply.

"Manchin told families that he was going back over to the mine to get more information.

"Wanda Groves, the mother of trapped miner Jerry Groves, was walking beside Manchin when she stumbled. As the governor helped the struggling woman regain her footing, Darlene Groves, the woman's daughter-in-law, touched the sleeve of the governor's leather jacket and asked him: 'Are all 12 men alive?'

"Darlene Groves said the governor turned to her and said quietly, 'Yes.'

"Manchin would say later he got 'caught up in the euphoria.' But what was supposed to have been a personal exchange was overheard, and a private word of encouragement suddenly took the shape of official confirmation from the highest level of state government." AP says he repeated this when a reporter talked to him privately a few minutes later, by phone.

Yet many newspapers have referred to Manchin "announcing" that the miners had been saved.

The Washington Post, meanwhile, put to bed a front-page story which declared, without any qualfiers, that the miners had been found alive and the only source cited (beyond the families) was this: "Gov. Joe Manchin III said some would need medical attention."

Several papers reported Thursday that Manchin's office says he never tried to indicate he was clearly confirming that the miners were alive. The Charleston (W.V.) Gazette bolstered this claim, in revealing, "In the hour after the joyous announcement, Tom Hunter, Manchin's press secretary, told the media he could not give official confirmation that the dozen miners had indeed been found safe."

In the same story, Manchin's spokeswoman, Lara Ramsburg, said nobody on his staff ever confirmed that the 12 were alive.

The New York Times today offered this balanced assessment: Manchin's "miracles" comment "was taken by some residents and reporters as confirmation that the miners had survived. But Mr. Manchin said he had not meant to give that impression."

At 12:55 am, another AP story repeated that the coal company had not confirmed the news, but said a family member at the church "said a mine foreman called relatives there, saying the miners had been found" -- not exactly a solid source. Nevertheless, around the country, hundreds of newspapers were putting to bed front pages with headlines such as "They're Alive" or "12 Miners Saved."

***

Another source -- one of the few, as it turns out -- enters the story here.

In its Wednesday morning front-page story reporting a rescue, The New York Times attributed the news to two sources: family members, and a less-than-definitive statement by an official in the West Virginia Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety, Joe Thornton. He "said the rescued miners were being examined at the mine shortly before midnight and would soon be taken to nearby hospitals. Mr. Thornton said he did not know details of their medical condition."

Oddly, in an extensive Web search, E&P has been unable to find any other quote from Thornton in any other publication, except those that had picked it up from the Times. It is also unclear what role Thornton was playing that night or how he talked with James Dao, the Times reporter. Dao has not returned calls from E&P. Attempts by E&P to reach Thornton on Thursday also failed.

A final source in this same time frame is U.S. Rep. Shelley Moore Capito. Like Manchin, she was at the church celebrating with families, and at 12:28 a.m., when asked by CNN what she could confirm, she said "12 miners alive." She added that she had no idea how that happened or their condition.

Again, it is unclear where she got this information or if she was asked where she got it, or even how she would know. In any case, she was not cited as a source by any newspapers that we have found.

There was one other side angle. The Washington Post and some other papers mentioned a hospital official saying it was on high alert to receive the miners, but no specific proof that they had lived.

***

After this brief frenzy just before and just after midnight, the picture, for journalists, changed. Manchin was gone, and despite later reports by family members, there appears to be no evidence that anyone from the coal company came to the church to make any rescue statements -- or talked to the media. By this time, we now know, the coal company knew there was likely just the one survivor, but this did not leak out at all.

Then, about 1 a.m., reporters and camera crews were asked by state police to leave the church and move a few hundred feet away, reportedly at the request of the families. One can speculate that the police had been told that bad news was coming, but this is not at all certain.

It would be more than 90 minutes until the coal company official came to the church to announce the bad news. There is no evidence that during all this any of the reporters were successful at finding more sources -- or, as time passed without a resolution, that they expressed any doubts to editors in their offices. Then again, they are not talking.

One might expect that some would have grown a little skeptical about the miracle rescue their papers back home were already announcing on the Web sites and in print copies flying off their presses. A dozen ambulances had stood ready to take the miners to a hospital for two hours, but only one had exited so far, just after 1 a.m., carrying what turned out to be the sole survivor. The others idled. A press conference by the coal company had been delayed. Not a confirming word or leak of any kind was emerging from the company or any state officials.

What were reporters, now separated from the families around the church, doing and thinking all this time? They aren't talking.

The Post-Gazette reported today that between 1 a.m. and 1:30 a.m., "a man who was either from the Red Cross or one of the rescue teams stood up and told families that the miners would be arriving within an hour." Perhaps, if this indeed happened, the families took this person to be a coal company official.

At 2:49 a.m., AP reported that eight ambulances had "filed toward the mine entrance" but offered no attribution. That same story had no reference to the coal company confirming anything.

At 3:06 a.m., AP offered a story in which family members said the coal company had told them that the miners were dead. At 3:14 a.m., the AP quoted a coal company official, who said the miners had died.


Joe Strupp and Greg Mitchell (gmitchell@editorandpublisher.com) are editors at E&P.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: leonarddownie; sagomine; tallmansville

1 posted on 01/06/2006 7:56:41 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites
MSM: "The governor and the CEO should be ashamed of themselves and should have checked their sources. It was not our fault, we got our news from the governor and officials at the scene..."

E&P: "That initial story clearly stated that neither the governor nor the International Coal Group Inc., which operates the mine, had confirmed the news."

MSM: "In the grand scheme of things does it really matter who messed up? What are we going to start pointing fingers now...BTW Sharon is on his death bed and the Miner story is old anyway..."

2 posted on 01/06/2006 8:01:31 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: billorites
99% of the media are incompetent hacks. They DO NOT do their jobs.
When I was growing up my Dad was a TV reporter and anchorman for ABC News in CT.
I remember watching the news with Dad and him yelling at the TV stuff like...."c'mon, what are you doing"...idiots, where is the source/follow up?", ect...
I learned at a young at that if you want to nave NO CLUE whats going on, read a newspaper or watch the TV News.
Not much has changed.I am so thankful for the net and this site, I can do my own research on most subjects and get to the facts.

Unfortunately with the above story you are relying on the media at hand...I can hear my Dads voice in my head.."where is the source? what are the people in charge saying? Where is the official spokesman of the mine? What are they saying? Where is the follow up?"
3 posted on 01/06/2006 8:08:34 AM PST by scott says (MSM=Morons Spouting Misinformation)
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To: scott says

This event is unfortunate, and it appears to exacerbated the the networks trying to "out-break" each other.


4 posted on 01/06/2006 8:14:36 AM PST by Lou L
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To: Lou L
Its a horrible tragedy and I'm sorry to use it to "attack" the media.But this is just so typical of these clown reporters...they DO NOT do their jobs. Get to the facts, check your sources, follow up, verify....
They are a bunch of howling hyenas , barking at the moon.
I feel so bad for these people in WV and pray for them to be comforted.
The media absolutely disgusts me.....
5 posted on 01/06/2006 8:24:24 AM PST by scott says (MSM=Morons Spouting Misinformation)
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To: Lou L

Its the media blackbird syndrome (pack journalism). One flies. They all fly.


6 posted on 01/06/2006 8:32:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Don't buy Bose. Their warranty is no good.)
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To: scott says

Let me ask you this, as you appear to be fairly close to the story. Do you think it helped or hurted the situation, for the governor's office to be involved? Did the state provide some resources that they needed input from the governor? I'm not necessarily blaming him, I'm just wondering if there would've been less opportunity for error if they just used a spokesperson from the mining company.


7 posted on 01/06/2006 8:35:53 AM PST by Lou L
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To: billorites
The New York Times attributed the news to two sources: family members, and a less-than-definitive statement by an official in the West Virginia Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety, Joe Thornton. ... Oddly, in an extensive Web search, E&P has been unable to find any other quote from Thornton in any other publication, except those that had picked it up from the Times. It is also unclear what role Thornton was playing that night or how he talked with James Dao, the Times reporter. Dao has not returned calls from E&P. Attempts by E&P to reach Thornton on Thursday also failed.

Well, looky here - The Times gets caught fabricating news again!

8 posted on 01/06/2006 8:36:16 AM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: billorites

Whatever the source, the media should have checked it out more thoroughly before reporting it.


9 posted on 01/06/2006 8:39:15 AM PST by TBP
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To: billorites

I have to find it to officialy source it, but yesterday I did a google seach on "12 Miners Alive" to see who had erased those pages as if they never happened. Most, not all were foreign papers.

As for the orginal source, another one quoted a family member as saying as they were gathered in the church, someone (fellow miner? nit sure) came running up the holler saying "They're alive! They're alive!"

I'm going to go find that source now......


10 posted on 01/06/2006 8:42:15 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: scott says

I went to school as a journalism major in the 80s. You are supposed to check and confirm your source, not run on rumors. Additionally the proper spokesperson for a corporation this large should be considered the official source of information.


11 posted on 01/06/2006 8:46:42 AM PST by merry10
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To: Lou L
I don't pretend to be totally informed about this story. So please don't take my observations as the facts. I can only comment on what I saw.
I watched a college football game and was up late, I tuned into the cable news to see what was going on, I did not see one reporter seeking out an "official" word of the mine or governors office.
Apparently, the mining company people KNEW that the reports of the 12 found alive was not true.They did not know how many or the names, so instead of immediately calling a "press conference" or at the least a "private meeting" with the family , they let it slide.
I saw the CEO of the mine company explaining this very late on the night, he said he didn't want to put the families through more.
I feel he should have stepped up and said something, but hindsight is 20/20.
Somebody needed to step up and get some info out, instead they did nothing.
12 posted on 01/06/2006 8:46:47 AM PST by scott says (MSM=Morons Spouting Misinformation)
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To: scott says
As I understand it, fwiw, company officials made a call to the state patrol to have them advise the clergy at the church that reports may not have been accurate and to tell families to hold on.

Somehow, that information did not get passed on.
13 posted on 01/06/2006 9:07:43 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
I saw that yesterday as well. I guess my point is this-If a serious "reporter/journalist" was there, they would have went to the mining spokesman or the governors office and asked-"Can you confirm this?".
From what I saw, this did not happen.
They just ran with the story, no follow up or confirmation.
14 posted on 01/06/2006 9:11:54 AM PST by scott says (MSM=Morons Spouting Misinformation)
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To: scott says

Exactly. It ticks me off that the press is going around trying to lay the blame for this on everyone but themselves.

But then the depth of my hatred for the press makes me not at all "objective" about this thing. ; )


15 posted on 01/06/2006 9:37:53 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
Hindsight is 20/20 and its easy for me to complain and act like a know it all.
I just know what my Dad would have done.He would show up on the scene and immediately makes friends with the cops,EMT's, workers,ect...He probably would know some of them already.
Establish a firm relationship with the Mining spokesman and he already would know the people at the governors office. If anything happened he would be on top of it, check with his "people" before shooting his mouth off.
These national reporters should of at least attempted to do some groundwork for their "sources".. These idiots are hacks.
16 posted on 01/06/2006 10:46:17 AM PST by scott says (MSM=Morons Spouting Misinformation)
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To: billorites

Yellow dog journalism. Folking press corps. Hacks inventing the stories to fit their fantasies. Axeholes.


17 posted on 01/06/2006 11:58:12 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: billorites
This E&P Report is the BEST yet I've seen/read on what exactly happened with this unfortunate turn of events. Good detail; good information. Glad to finally know exactly what happened, what was said by whom, when, etc. It's all so unfortunate; there really isn't any one person to blame; HOWEVER, media-types were obligated to have firm confirmations from top officials and they failed to obtain those confirmations...therefore, they are without excuse for the actions that night.

As for the governor and the CEO, like others have said, hindsight is 20/20. In retrospect, obviously they should have had someone in an official capacity, get back to the church as soon as it was apparent that the initial report of "12 alive" was incorrect...if only to have alerted everyone to be cautious to the fact that nothing could be confirmed and that there was still doubt as to who and how many were alive. Just IMHO. But we are all only human--prone to mistakes...and as heartbreaking as this is for the families, NO ONE intended any harm, maliciousness, etc.

18 posted on 01/06/2006 1:54:07 PM PST by nfldgirl ("I love a good rant every now-n-then!")
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To: frogjerk

fake but accurate


19 posted on 01/06/2006 2:36:28 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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