Skip to comments.(Vanity) Brokeback Mountain, a Curious Attendance Story
Posted on 01/06/2006 3:31:19 PM PST by Balding_Eagle
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You'd never know about the state of the economy based on MSM reports.
You shot him in the ass!
re: "Sodomy on the Range"
Or, as Earl Pitts said in this morning's commentary, "This movie gives a new meaning to the term 'cowpoke'.
I thought that Rock Hudson died from Botulism. ;-)
Hey Tex, can you play the song from "Bah Bah Black Sheep"
"No, but I do a mean version of 'Clang, Where's the Trolley.'"
"During the early weeks of a film's release, the studio's cut can be as high as 90 percent in some cases; at the end of a long run, this ratio can inverted, providing 90 percent to the cinema-owners and only 10 percent to the studios."
So if a film is a dog early in its release, but is nominated for, or maybe wins, an Academy Award, the theater can still profit big later on. They can make their money in the "back end", so to speak.
Sounds like someone is still trying to put lipstick on this pig of a flick.
BurbankKarl was claiming that Miramax engages in this practice, paying theater owners for big blocks of tieckets which nobody will use. The theater owners do not stand to benefit in any way from posting "Sold Out" signs for showings that almost no one has bought tickets for. They don't care what movie wins an Academy Award; they'll just re-show whichever ones do. It's the studios that have a huge cash outlay in production costs for certain high profile films, and need to show profits on most of those big ticket films, or they'll have trouble getting financing for future ones.
Theater owners profit from selling tickets and having live junk-food buying people show up at the theater to actually use the tickets. They want to get rid of unpopular movies as quickly as possible, so they can use their theater space to show movies which WILL sell tickets.
That won't stop the liars in the media from fabricating a nice little success story, however. After all, part of marketing cultural Stalinism involves making official party ideology appear mainstream.
Has anyone thought about this???? Maybe the theater manager was ashamed of this movie, Brokeback Mountain, so he decided to just turn on the SOLD OUT sign so that no one could buy another ticket to see it?
Say there, is that a 5 1/2" SAA cowboy? My package is 8" with scope rings. No safety, 5 in the wheel. Yep, San Francisco. Howd'ja know?
When that "Homo On The Range" song starts playing, I guess at least the sheep ain't so nervous.
Just make sure you don't bend over. Might want to put your wallet on a chain just in case you drop it.
Nope. Not the same thing.
Yes, it's true.
WalMart and these others are in a very real way responsible for the absence of inflation.
Too, just in time inventory controls, and just in time labor. These keep inflationary pressures quiescent. Low inflation means more sustainability to growth. (We don't want rapid employment growth.)
Price stability means longer recovery. Bernanke answered perfectly to the Senate committee "Yes I believe in the dual mandate..." What utter rubbish. Sustainable output growth and employment are a function of price stability. But Ben just smiled. So much for that 'Im really apolitical' stuff he's been selling.
Be not afraid.
Yes, American profligacy should be a concern. But the metrics we employ are often ill-derived: spending (consumer durables are storehouses of value), saving (we don't mark much of our 'savings' to market), etc.
The current account deficit is not problematic. In fact, the know of no 'sequential causal relationship' between capital flows and spending. We just can't say at all that the capital account is a function of the current account...
Our national debt, taken alone, is staggering. Even so, we have a 12 trillion dollar economy, which continues to post non-inflationary output growth numbers above the long term trend, and in excess of the budget deficit.
Hey, the movie industry has already noted several Left-leaning movies aren't making they money they should be. If there is anything Hollywood worships above all else it's making money and when the studios and movie theater owners don't make a profit that's when the studio heads will start to realize that the average American moviegoer wants a movie that entertains and not preaches the Leftist line. Ask Natalie Maines what happened to the Dixie Chicks when her remarks about President Bush effectively destroyed the success of that group....
Those are probably the ones I remembered reading.
Those are probably the ones I remembered reading.
Sounds like a gay version of The Hours.
Full Disclosure: Anyone else here think a better title for Brokeback Mountain would have been Chitty Chitty Bang-Bang ?? -- "starring Sally Anne (how?) and Dick van Dyke"
Well, you know the difference between a regular rodeo and a gay rodeo, don't you?
At a regular rodeo the audience members shout "Ride that sucker!"
No idea how she went from Princess Diaries to Jilted by a Puddin' Eater.
The studio heads used to know that, know it now, and will continue to know it. Hasn't made a damned bit of difference so far. There have been an increasing number of liberal/left wing movies released over the past six years or so. And they continue to be released.
"Ask Natalie Maines what happened to the Dixie Chicks when her remarks about President Bush effectively destroyed the success of that group....
I don't need to ask Natalie anything. I am quite familiar with what happened to the Dixie Chicks. After suffering the initial smackdown, these twits have come back a bit, claiming their "crossover" strategy is working ("we were never only about Nashville"), and some of the radio stations which banned them have returned them to the playlists. As far as I'm concerned, I wish them nothing but failure.
Actually, the studios do send out auditors to theaters to make sure that the number of tickets sold for a show match the number of people who attended. I worked in a movie theater in high school and I saw this happen a few times.
"I was thinking more "Homo on the Range"....
... where the deer and the antelope are gay
"I've NEVER seen the resale value of a book drop as quickly as did both Bill & Hillary's "re-writing of history" flops."
I thought I would check out amazon. Hillary's book sells for 80 cents to 2 dollars used and about 2 dollars to 4 dollars new. Go here for results.
Like someone said before, in a multiplex, you can buy a ticket for BBM and then go see king kong and BBM gets credit for the sale.
I know. I work for them.
That's when that joke first made the rounds... but then the punchline was...
... bad meat in a can......now it's "Old meat in a can."
The more things change...
Has anyone on this forum actually SEEN the movie? I've been reading a lot of sniggering gay jokes worthy of the average eighth grader.
Personally, I liked the movie. And the theater I saw at in (in the middle of a pretty conservative suburban area) was packed. I don't know what the sexual preferences of every single member of the audience was; my wife and I are both straight and we both thought BBM was a thoughtful, beautifully written, acted and directed film about two people caught up by something they can't understand.
What if this theater worker decided to put up the "sold out" sign because he didn't want anyone to see this movie?
That is just as valid an assumption as this "hollywood conspiracy" idea...
You say that a theater worker putting his job on the line just to stop one showing of Brokeback is as valid an assumption as this "hollywood conspiracy" idea?
Welcome to FR.
You'll need to exercise more mental horsepower and discernment if you want to keep up with the rest of us.
Not an insult if it's true.
The idea that a lowly ticket seller would take it upon himself to turn on the 'sold out' sign is ridiculous. It seemed so obvious to me that I thought everyone would grasp that at once.
Sorry, I'll slow down next time.
After re-reading your reply, I see I need to slow down for this response too.
The insinuation in the original story, as told on air, was that the Theater Manager, or higher, made the call to turn on the sign. I think nearly everyone realized that.
Readers of this thread, if there are any still left who are still interested in a nothing movie, will find it interesting that two brand new FR members, who have posted only to this thread, seemed to miss that salient point. Surely YOU two dont have an agenda, do you?
Re the made up part, Im sorry youre too busy to read the whole short story.
It has just nominated for 5 Oscars. Or some such number. That's for a controversial movie that few have seen, and lends credence to the idea that there has been manipulation of attendance numbers to further an agenda.
Welcome to FR. Watch out for the ZOT.
I have no idea if attendance has anything to do with Oscars. I've never followed them.
'Made up part"
In the original post I addressed the distinct possibility that the caller just made up the whole story.
He may have been someone who had an agenda to discredit Brokeback.
Most of the questions you've raised have been covered upthread.
I can't speak for the others on these threads, but if you browse FR you'll find a common theme in regard to Hollywood. We don't trust them to have the good of the country in mind as they produce and promote their movies. There is evidence available (I don't have a link handy, but it's there) that they don't even have the profit motive in mind as they produce movies.
What's left? Why produce movies then? Most of us here would say it's because they want to promote some social agenda. Brokeback would be circumstantial evidence of that. So would The China Syndrome, which set back nuclear energy 30+ years in this country. There are hundreds of other examples, including the President and Vice-Presidents trip to Hollywood immediately following 9-11 to ask for their help in making movies supporting the USA's effort in WWIV. The only resulting movies are those which arguably support our enemies.
We've accepted the strength of Hollywood to influence our country, and are working to make a change, even if it takes 30 years, as it has with SCOTUS. Part of that effort is to alert common people, like most of us here at FR, to questionable activity. This thread was a contribution to that effort.
Then why make the comment?
"It has just nominated for 5 Oscars. Or some such number. That's for a controversial movie that few have seen, and lends credence to the idea that there has been manipulation of attendance numbers to further an agenda."
You are the one who made it seem that movie attendance and the number of Oscar nods are linked...If you don't know how it works then why make that comment?
Becasue i thought it did factor in.
So, how can I trust anything you say? You have just admitted to saying something boldly and confidently with out knowing a damn thing about it. I'm much too skeptical for that myself but you can confuse a lot of people by behaving that way.
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