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Computer chips get under skin of enthusiasts
Reuters ^ | January 6, 2006 | Jamie McGeever

Posted on 01/07/2006 3:25:02 AM PST by AntiGuv

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To: AntiGuv

Well, could it be something better than printing a barcode on your hand or head? :-D


21 posted on 01/07/2006 6:46:19 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Wiz
Actually, I would acquiesce to a bar code tattoo long before I acquiesced to an RFID implant.
22 posted on 01/07/2006 6:58:02 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
There is no conceivable circumstance whatsoever that I would even remotely consent to having an RFID implant or anything similar.

No, i agree, there is not a single one. Take for instance aircraft in the military. Being a pilot for the USAF I know full well the accountability factor as to how they account for the people on board should a crash or shoot down take the aircraft out and thus the people inside. We have:
Dog tags
I.D. Cards
Flight Manifests
On board pieces of luggage and carry on establishing more evidence of the same

All of this is duplicated (except luggage of course) on the ground with various agencies. There are now extremely rare circumstances requiring more detail YET a few years back we were by FORCE obligated against our desires to give DNA samples which are housed in Virginia somewhere, so as to be "identified" if the "what if's" happened. This is the next logical step and only and extension of what some in government and most in the UN want.

The "trial ballons" have been floated in the military. You think there was a stink about that rotten anthrax vaccine there was even more resistance towards a chip implant. The microtransponder is just plain unnecessary. While I can see the arguments for the mentally retarded or Alzheimer patient who leaves their home and such and is found alive or dead the family would still be looking for them and in short enough order they would be identified but it is just a stepping stone towards "Requirement" under the false auspice of being better for all concerned.

23 posted on 01/07/2006 7:22:01 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER
Well, like I said, it is inconceivable that I would ever consent to having an RFID implant. If I were still in the military I would refuse any such orders and deal with the consequences. If it were required for transactions I would opt out. If it were mandated by law or became so extensive that life was otherwise intolerable I'd move out of the U.S. Quite simply, the only way that I will ever have an RFID implant is if I'm bodily seized, strapped down, and forcibly implanted. And even then I would promptly seek its removal by any means necessary - criminal if need be.

And if I ever woke up with something like this:

Then I would promptly cut it out. So, I don't know how many people I speak for, but there is no conceivable circumstance whatsoever that I will ever have an RFID implanted.

24 posted on 01/07/2006 8:09:09 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: opticks

"you end of looking like Jacko using this technology."

LOL! goofballs all...


25 posted on 01/07/2006 8:46:15 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Wiz

Step close to the world of Ghost In the Shell PING!

You rang?

Be Seeing You,

Chris

26 posted on 01/07/2006 6:38:11 PM PST by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: BipolarBob

Yeeessssh indeed, those forehead bar-code tattoos are the in THING style with the "new" "hip" "post modern" "with it" crowd.

Yeeesssh indeed.


27 posted on 01/07/2006 6:53:16 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ("Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: ICE-FLYER
YET a few years back we were by FORCE obligated against our desires to give DNA samples which are housed in Virginia somewhere, so as to be "identified" if the "what if's" happened.

To the best of my knowledge, those "samples" were required to be destroyed.

The object was to take samples of the cells of the buccal cavity of the cheek, but they were easy to falsify.

28 posted on 01/08/2006 6:40:33 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: BipolarBob

"...If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand..."

Revelation 14: 9-11


29 posted on 01/08/2006 6:49:22 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: AntiGuv
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Revelation 13: 16-18

Be prepared to fight to the death brother.
30 posted on 01/08/2006 6:53:57 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Lancer_N3502A
"...If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand..."

Yeppers, but I see it coming. How else to track illegal aliens, terrorists and unaccounted for criminals. I believe the prophecy and I see what could drive it. So the question will be whether to accept (and be a law-abiding citizen) or reject and be hunted down like a criminal and lose all you have worked for. The material things you have accumulated are temporary but the punishment can be eternal. Life is full of decisions.

31 posted on 01/08/2006 6:55:41 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: BipolarBob
"be hunted down like a criminal"

Speak for yourself pilgrim. Beware when the hunted become the hunter.
32 posted on 01/08/2006 6:59:25 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: AntiGuv
Aside from all the obvious reasons elucidated on this forum for NOT doing this, here's another everyday practical one:

What does one do every time one or more of the many passwords most of us have changes?? Make an appointment with a surgeon to R&R the old implant for a new one??

33 posted on 01/08/2006 7:02:04 PM PST by Babu
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To: Lancer_N3502A
Speak for yourself pilgrim. Beware when the hunted become the hunter.

he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Rev. 13:10

34 posted on 01/08/2006 7:03:10 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: AntiGuv; Lijahsbubbe; aculeus; dighton; martin_fierro
I'm curious to know how an RFID implant could be designed or "shielded" so that it cannot be accessed by an unauthorized intruder.


35 posted on 01/08/2006 7:05:11 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: BipolarBob

"A righteous man who falters before the wicked is like a murky spring and a polluted well."

Proverbs 25:26


36 posted on 01/08/2006 7:07:12 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Lancer_N3502A
Bwaahaaahaa. All I can say is don't falter. Stay true to your convictions. What happened to the prophets and apostles? They were persecuted and martyred.

My kingdom is not of this world, if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight.

John 18:36

37 posted on 01/08/2006 7:14:43 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: BipolarBob
"Blessed be the Lord my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight,"

Psalms 144:1
38 posted on 01/08/2006 7:32:38 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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