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Senator: Bush's spying raises concerns (Brownback-RINO?)
Lawrence Journal-World ^ | December 24, 2005 | Scott Rothschild

Posted on 01/07/2006 4:34:58 AM PST by balch3

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To: The_Eaglet
I'm sorry that you seem confused by this. Simply screaming your opinion over and over doesn't suddenly turn them into facts if you simply increase frequency and volume. They are still meaningless.
81 posted on 01/07/2006 7:18:37 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Marine Corp T-Shirt "Guns don't kill people. I kill people." {Both Arabic and English})
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To: MNJohnnie

"Simply screaming your opinion over and over doesn't suddenly turn them into facts if you simply increase frequency and volume. They are still meaningless."

True. Why do you continue to do this?


82 posted on 01/07/2006 7:19:34 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet
If Brownback has questions about whether this was followed, he is on the right track

Where was Brownback at during the abuses of the Clinton administration?

83 posted on 01/07/2006 7:19:59 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Non-Sequitur
It's amazing what actually reading the Constitution will do for one's understanding of that document, isn't it?

I recommend it to all for your perusal.

84 posted on 01/07/2006 7:21:47 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet
USC Amendment IV

The USC is not a suicide pact. When the Republic is threatened, the USC cannot be used to restrain the POTUS who, in his capacity as the CinC, is trying to defend the Republic from our enemies.

85 posted on 01/07/2006 7:22:07 AM PST by nwrep
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To: The_Eaglet

Well I see you still do not get it.


86 posted on 01/07/2006 7:23:57 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Marine Corp T-Shirt "Guns don't kill people. I kill people." {Both Arabic and English})
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To: nwrep
USC cannot be used to restrain the POTUS

He is bound by oath to preserve and defend it. The President gets his power from the Constitution. When he violates the constitution he violates his word.

87 posted on 01/07/2006 7:25:08 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: Non-Sequitur

Amen


88 posted on 01/07/2006 7:25:37 AM PST by hgro (A)
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To: MNJohnnie

I noticed that you replied to #4. What don't you get about it?


89 posted on 01/07/2006 7:26:00 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet
I recommend it to all for your perusal.

I've read it many times. You mistake is assuming that I'm any more comfortable with the policy than you are.

90 posted on 01/07/2006 7:26:58 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I didn't make that assumption. In fact, by your comments I assumed that you were quite familiar with it. I was encouraging others to follow suit. :)


91 posted on 01/07/2006 7:28:14 AM PST by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet

Hmmmm. Is it "unreasonable" to tap the communications of some a**hole who we find in Zarwahiri's Rolodex? And is GWB's "oath" as CIC during a war not enough justification?

If you think the above, just know it has been violated in every war since our founding.


92 posted on 01/07/2006 7:31:42 AM PST by pissant
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To: Cboldt

Here is something else you won't read from the MSM..So do not compare my president to the traitors Bill and Hillary Clinton.People should read all they can on these two and never give Hillary Clinton as chance to set foot in our house again..You on the other hand compare all you want because we are not listening..



http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/emmetttyrrell/2006/01/05/181095.html
Hiding Barrett
Jan 5, 2006
by Emmett Tyrrell ( bio | archive | contact )


WASHINGTON -- In a very clever year-end column the venerable William Safire writing in the New York Times asks whether "special prosecutor David Barrett's 400-page expose of political influence within the Internal Revenue Service and the Clinton Justice Department" will be the government report "most likely to resist investigative reporting" this year. I certainly hope not. The misuse of the IRS and Justice Department has a long record going back to Richard Nixon and Watergate and before that to Franklin Roosevelt and his harassment of former Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon and publisher Moses Annenberg. Wealthy individuals such as Mellon and Annenberg can protect themselves -- though Annenberg was cruelly sent to jail. Ordinary citizens cannot, and the way the IRS is set up today, not much provocation is necessary to instigate a costly investigation … costly to ordinary taxpayers.

People familiar with the Barrett Report claim that during his investigation of former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros, Barrett came across illegal IRS and Justice Department activity in the Clinton years that involved corruption and infringements on the civil liberties of private citizens. A whistle-blower in the IRS, John Filan, delivered up an 18-page blueprint sketching out the illegal activities and perhaps identifying the victims. Sources claim it contains some of the most illuminating revelations of IRS misconduct ever. Lawyers at the Clintons' ever-reliable Washington firm of Williams and Connolly have bottled the report up since it was finished in August of 2004. Democrats and a couple of incompetent Republicans have seen to it that the report is gutted. This month, the gutted report will be made public. The date is Jan. 19. Safire seems to want investigative journalists to get the rest of the report out. Frankly, I would like to see our elected legislators on Capitol Hill get the whole, unredacted report out.

If Sen. Charles Grassley, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, had his way, the unredacted report might get out. His committee has oversight of the IRS, and he thought a month or so back that he had the agreement of the three-judge panel overseeing Barrett to allow him to receive the unredacted report, and make it public for the citizenry to see. Unfortunately, Democrats on the Hill led by Sen. Byron Dorgan, Sen. Dick Durbin, and Rep. Henry Waxman have thwarted Grassley's wishes by late-night legislative subterfuge. They were assisted in this project by two easily confused Republicans, Sen. Kit Bond and Rep. Joe Knollenberg. Now the 120 pages of the report that outline illegal behavior by the IRS and Justice Department during the Clinton administration will be suppressed, unless the investigative journalists Safire hopes for get to work on the Jan. 19 release. Of course, Republican leaders Sen. Bill Frist and Rep. Denny Hastert could weigh in, too. They head both houses of Congress.

Just before Christmas, one of the perpetrators in the Democrats' cover up, Durbin, the Minority Whip, boldly asseverated that "We will initiate at the beginning of this year one of the most serious debates and discussions on Capitol Hill in our history about individual rights and liberties." Well, I suggest that Frist and Hastert hold Durbin to his words. Surely, Grassley will be on their side.

This report by Independent Counsel Barrett is the first time in history that the unique powers of an Independent Counsel have been brought to bear on the IRS. With Barrett's grand jury subpoena power he has, sources familiar with the report say, opened the internal workings of the IRS against private citizens for the first time. For 10 years, and at a cost of over $20 million to taxpayers, Barrett has put together this important report. Surely, the taxpayers have a right to see it.

Durbin has declaimed his desire to look into the state of our "individual rights and liberties." No agency of the federal government has more power to infringe on our rights and liberties than the IRS. Surely Durbin should be held accountable for suppressing this report. There are no legitimate grounds for not publicizing it in its entirety. The reports of every other Independent Counsel have been published in full, save for brief sections containing classified materials. Gutting a report of 120 pages of detailed government wrongdoing goes too far. Are Safire's investigative reporters ready to pounce? Will Frist and Hastert rise to their responsibilities? Civil libertarians throughout the country should take note and so should historians.


93 posted on 01/07/2006 7:33:05 AM PST by Beth528
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To: montag813
Brownback can kiss his political future goodbye.

That's, Brownback can kiss his political A$$ goodbye.

94 posted on 01/07/2006 7:34:31 AM PST by GOPologist ("On some days you may feel like a dog; on other days you may feel like a hydrant!")
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To: capt. norm

See, I disagree that Newton Gingrich was a model of "leadership." Why? He once said that when in the presence of one "Bill" Clinton, he just "melted" or some such nonsensical word. I think he is a good "talking head," but as a leader, there is a lack of something there too????


95 posted on 01/07/2006 7:35:24 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Another Frist we don't need."

And it's Frist whose lack of leadership has allowed the rhetoric from RINOs to become more vociferous....

Hey, but that's Dubya's fault -- he chose Frist to "lead."

96 posted on 01/07/2006 7:35:29 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Cboldt
McCarthy's article is intellectually weak.

I disagree. And I think the judges who leaked should be impeached.

97 posted on 01/07/2006 7:37:20 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: freeperfromnj
Do they really think turning on the President will get them elected? RINOs are fools.

This is what I'm wondering; do these backstabbers think that we Bush supporters are going to support them now?

Me, I'm keeping a list.

98 posted on 01/07/2006 7:41:32 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: putupjob

I agree.


99 posted on 01/07/2006 7:42:05 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: kjo
Just sickening the way these folks get used for a little TV time.

Who's using who?

100 posted on 01/07/2006 7:42:59 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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