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VANITY: Trailer on TV for BrokeBack Mountain intentionally misleading

Posted on 01/07/2006 5:11:11 AM PST by rlmorel

I know there have been a lot of threads about this, but I haven't heard this angle. I don't watch TV, but poked my head in for the sports segment of the news...and when a commercial came on, it was a preview for "BrokeBack Mountain".

Now, I know that previews often don't tell you much about a movie, but this one really took the cake. If you watched this preview, you saw: Beautiful country, nice sunsets, handsome men on horses, good looking women with men kissing them in a bed, etc. There was NOTHING that might indicate to you the controversial nature of the movie. I thought it was intentionally misleading, the way it was constructed.

I realized, the people who are hyping this movie (and the hype was first and foremost in the preview..."Highly Acclaimed...Best Picture...", etc.) are in the same position that liberals are with respect to their politics.

They cannot let people know the true nature of the film, the way liberal politicians cannot let their constituents know the true nature of their politics. As Richard Nixon once said about Alger Hiss: "If the American people knew the real nature of Alger Hiss, they would boil him in oil...", so would a large percentage of Americans who vote for liberal politicians without understanding their true nature.

And so it is with this film. I can easily see some people going to see it based on the preview, and being unpleasantly surprised. But perhaps not, I suppose one would need to live under a rock to be surprised.

Jay Severin, a libertarian/conservative radio talk show host in the Massachusetts area (yes...as strange as that sounds) put it best when he said that this part of a concerted effort by hollywood liberals to deconstruct America, take everything about it that is good, and corrupt or destroy it. He said (and I agree) the message it sends is "This is perfectly normal and common behavior amongst cowboys..." There is a lot to quibble about in this general statement, they are not cowboys, this is not portrayed as normal, etc. But I do not think the substance of what Mr. Severin said is wrong. When one looks at the hype of this homosexual movie, and where it comes from, I agree with him.


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1 posted on 01/07/2006 5:11:14 AM PST by rlmorel
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To: rlmorel

I would say this is a "stealth" rump-ranger movie. Not getting very good returns in the box office so now they are going to have to soft sell it to the innocent. Small town America is better informed. Movie has had it!!!


2 posted on 01/07/2006 5:14:30 AM PST by Sterco
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To: Sterco

Agreed, they're desperate. I'm seeing the ads all the time. And they are misleading.


3 posted on 01/07/2006 5:18:17 AM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: rlmorel

This movie is filthy propaganda. Thats not hyperbole. I just love the ads with Anne Hathway (from "Princess Diaries") holding a baby. Its so dishonest.


4 posted on 01/07/2006 5:20:40 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Sterco

As with most other liberal causes, the light of day is death to their projects. The American people dont vote 70-80% for anti gay marriage amendments for no reason.


5 posted on 01/07/2006 5:21:00 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: rlmorel
Hollywood is trying to convince America that sex between men who share a lot of time and camaraderie is not an uncommon thing. Should this movie recieve any recognition, a movie with male frontline soldiers having sex in the field with each other will follow. You can bet on it.

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6 posted on 01/07/2006 5:21:20 AM PST by speed_addiction (And the Lord said, "Who shall I send? Who will stand for us?" Said I, "Here I am...Send me.")
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To: Sterco

The people at work I talked to over the last couple of weeks had heard of the film but had no idea of the contents. Needless to say, after hearing, it was their "smile" for the day. No one has any interest in spending their money to see it.


7 posted on 01/07/2006 5:22:05 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: rlmorel

Liberalism is built upon lies.


8 posted on 01/07/2006 5:24:22 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Sterco

I'm sure this plays very well in little, out of the way, fudge packing and bone smuggling communitites like SF and Greenwich Village.....

and I thought shepheards were only in love with "EWE".


9 posted on 01/07/2006 5:25:19 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: rlmorel
...Jay Severin, a libertarian/conservative radio talk show host in the Massachusetts area (yes...as strange as that sounds) put it best when he said that this part of a concerted effort by hollywood liberals to deconstruct America, take everything about it that is good, and corrupt or destroy it.

This movie is from are the same people who could not tolerate Mel gibson's Passion, and now try to ram "the book of daniel" heretical feces onto our screens.

Homosexual activity is wrong. Homosexual "love" is nothing more than submission to the basest perverted mechanizations. It is a complete defilement of God's intentions, for sexual conduct, and human relationships. It is anathema to Christians, and accurately reflects the lowly slimes, in the production of this crap.

I do not understand why homosexual activity has developed into a "protected lifestyle"? In reality, there are probably less than ONE (1%) queers among us. But, they have the power of Democrat panderers and their 'Pubbie cohorts behind them (sic)...

Where are our legions?


10 posted on 01/07/2006 5:25:53 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: speed_addiction

My take: Hollywood is attempting to destroy traditional American heroes and icons. The American cowboy exemplifies the independent, manly spirit of America. Can't have that in a "kinder, gentler, manicured and powdered" America.

What's ironic about Cornhole Mountain is that homos are being used to trash the cowboy image, and the homo lobby in America is cheering them on.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 5:34:36 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Sterco

The movie will bomb with older, more sophisticated people, but young kids will be drawn to it (especially teenage girls) because they love Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal. The movie is propaganda, to make young folks more "tolerant".


12 posted on 01/07/2006 5:36:55 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: rlmorel

Good point about the "stealth" nature of liberalism! That's why Democrats can't win - either they're honest and America rejects them, or they try to straddle the fence and are rightly perceived as insincere and deceptive.

This film will NOT do well at the box office (and who will ever know whether anyone just bought blocs of tickets for empty seats), but I'd bet six months pay it will win best picture in all the awards - Golden Globe, Oscar, etc.

I had a terrible stomach virus and insomnia last night, and was flipping chennels. Bill Maher (ecch!!!) was on HBO. If you want to know what the leftist entertainment crowd REALLY thinks of us, watch that if you can stomach it. I forced myself to see a segment just to know what's out there. Disgusting.


13 posted on 01/07/2006 5:37:06 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: pageonetoo

I saw this book of Daniel crap on a trailer last night, What is that crap? Why does every new movie and TV show now have to have some queers in it?


14 posted on 01/07/2006 5:37:52 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: rlmorel
---I have seen the prevue twice and would say that you have to be born yesterday or have lived under a rock for the last twenty years to not grasp the general theme of this movie from just two or three of the lines---

--"you two don't go up there just to fish, do you--"

15 posted on 01/07/2006 5:38:18 AM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: Darnright

I don't know that young women who idolize these stars will ever be able to see them the same way again. But I do worry about young folks and what they are being taught - America is racist, we torture prisoners and wiretap Americans, etc.

One ad I saw had a byline for the film, something like "love is a force of nature." In other words, people can't control their urges and have to do whatever feels good. Except, of course, if childrens' behavior conforms to traditionally understood sex roles. Then that behavior is not a "force of nature," but a result of the bad old American society and needs to be fought. Sheesh!


16 posted on 01/07/2006 5:42:48 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: speed_addiction

"...Should this movie receive any recognition, a movie with male frontline soldiers having sex in the field with each other will follow..."

Oh, God. I am going to hurl.

Hollywood is in such a black pit, as is the media. I picked up a paper yesterday, the Worcester Telegram (which is owned by the Boston Globe) and on their entertainment section had five movies they were reviewing, about:

1.) Gay sheepherders (cowboys they said)

2.) A Transvestite bar singer

3.) A woman who drinks a marijuana laced concoction

4.) Two men who get trapped in a grisly torture ring in Europe

5.) I cannot even remember what this one was after the first four.


These are the movies they felt compelled to discuss on their merits. Now, I am no prude, and I spend money on films. And I admit I like films like "American Beauty" and "Pulp Fiction" which are generally derided by most conservatives. But this was a bit much all at once. The coordinated attack is a bit transparent...


17 posted on 01/07/2006 5:43:19 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel
Similarly, the commercials for 'Million Dollar Baby' were also made to look like it was a female 'Rocky' movie.

How does that Al Franken saying go again, "The Lying Liars and the Lies They Tell"? Hollywood is committing suicide, unassisted.
18 posted on 01/07/2006 5:53:28 AM PST by ishabibble (UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
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To: rlmorel
I suppose one would need to live under a rock to be surprised.

That was gonna be my comment to you before I finished reading your post. Any savvy moviegoer knows what this is about.

And, quite frankly, anyone who spends $8-10 on a ticket and doesn't know what it's about can't blame anyone but themselves.

19 posted on 01/07/2006 6:00:05 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. - P Henry)
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To: ishabibble
"Hollywood is committing suicide, unassisted"

Good line! And it appears to be quite true.

21 posted on 01/07/2006 6:04:51 AM PST by sweet_diane (I support TheShoulder dot org)
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To: speed_addiction
Would appear to be a waste of feminine flesh. Most of em don't like guys. Most of em that I have seen don't look anything like that. Most of em look like this. Image hosted by Photobucket.com
22 posted on 01/07/2006 6:14:00 AM PST by Sterco
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To: sweet_diane

I agree. And....The Academy Awards Presentations are also flushing themselves down the toilet. Normally, I would never advocate boycotts, and I won't do that here, but this is one dude that will not be tuning in to any of the award shows this spring. The movie nominees are all about fags, gays, homosexuals, hate religion, hate America, hate the US Military, hate US Business. love the Democrat "Traitor/Treason" Party!!! However, I'll bet not one Democrat shows up for any of these "freak" shows. They dare not be caught with Jon Stewart tending to the sheep, while the Brokeback Mountain boyus get it on!!!


23 posted on 01/07/2006 6:14:51 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: rlmorel

I broke my back while being mounted by my gay partner alert !

hehe


24 posted on 01/07/2006 6:17:33 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: Sterco

What do you mean not getting good returns? The movie made back all it costs and then some. That is what we should be concerned with that people actually saw it!


25 posted on 01/07/2006 6:21:44 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: rlmorel

I saw that promo a week or so ago. As I recall, the last scene showed two guys sitting on a hill looking at a herd of sheep in the flat lands below.

My reaction was, knowing the theme of the movie,that those sheep must be awful nervous.


26 posted on 01/07/2006 6:27:01 AM PST by bcsco ("The Constitution is not a suicide pact"...A. Lincoln)
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To: napscoordinator

I am at a loss here. You are telling me that the backers of this film are going to get rich off of it? Somehow or another I assumed that if mid-America did not go see it that it would be a financial flop. Perhaps it is sad but true that I am wrong. I just hope I am not.


27 posted on 01/07/2006 6:31:33 AM PST by Sterco
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To: rlmorel
"This is perfectly normal and common behavior amongst cowboys..."

The queers in the movie were shepherds.

28 posted on 01/07/2006 6:36:52 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: rlmorel
What is interesting is that I heard a caller on Michael Medved's radio show yesterday mention that a theater complex in Orange County, CA claimed that Brokeback Mountain was sold out when in real truth the screening room showing the movie was close to empty! When the caller asked about this he nearly got booted out of the theater.
29 posted on 01/07/2006 6:43:52 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: randog
Very well said and very true. Hollywood is attempting to make this sexual perversion normal. One interesting point though. From what I've heard (I would never view this junk) these "cowboys" don't take care of cows but sheep! That makes them shepherds and NOT cowboys! It seems no reviewers see the difference.
30 posted on 01/07/2006 6:48:17 AM PST by JLGALT
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To: rlmorel

The ad I saw on Christmas day called the movie "a classic american love story."

Could not believe it.


31 posted on 01/07/2006 6:49:02 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: rlmorel
And so it is with this film. I can easily see some people going to see it based on the preview, and being unpleasantly surprised. But perhaps not, I suppose one would need to live under a rock to be surprised.

Well this is what they are going to be surprised about in the experience which will occur. From Family Media Guide Brokeback Mountain Review
Sexual Examples in context: A man kneels behind another man who is on his hands and knees and they engage in sodomy.

From pluggedinonline.com review
Several scenes show the two men groping each other and kissing. (Half the time it looks more like forceful mashing than kissing.) Once, the camera keeps staring as kisses give way to anal sex. (There's no nudity shown, but the sequence is explicit; it includes sexual motions and sounds.)

32 posted on 01/07/2006 7:00:27 AM PST by bulldozer
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To: JLGALT
That makes them shepherds and NOT cowboys!

Give them turbans and the picture will be complete. FReeeeky!!

33 posted on 01/07/2006 7:03:39 AM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Sterco

I went to the local multiplex yesterday to see another movie. Brokeback Mountain was showing on another screen. I went in to see how many people had bought tickets to it. To my surprise the theater was almost full, mostly older people. This is a conservative community in a red state.


34 posted on 01/07/2006 7:04:07 AM PST by Lucas McCain
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35 posted on 01/07/2006 7:09:01 AM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: rlmorel

If you search FR you'll find a thread where a FReeper witnessed a bogus 'SOLD OUT' placed on the ticket window at the start time for the movie. He was going to another movie and was curious if this was really so, so he looked in the theater where BBM was showing and only saw a few people. Anyway, he asked the manager about this and the guy refused to comment. Seems that public perceptions are being manipulated big time with this propaganda piece.


36 posted on 01/07/2006 7:10:07 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: rellimpank
you two don't go up there just to fish, do you Just to sink a worm or two that's all
37 posted on 01/07/2006 7:15:21 AM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: BipolarBob
I agree MISLEADING...

How about the promos on ABC TV for inJustice?

Where are these "thousands" of INOCENT people convicted each year???

38 posted on 01/07/2006 7:16:56 AM PST by pointsal
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To: sgtbono2002
I saw this book of Daniel crap on a trailer last night, What is that crap? Why does every new movie and TV show now have to have some queers in it?

I think they (liberals in Hollywood) know they won't win most of us over, but they are winning over your children. That's their goal. They figure they've worn you down with name calling and now you won't complain as they corrupt the minds of all the children of the world.

39 posted on 01/07/2006 7:17:58 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Boazo

The not-so ambiguously gay duo.


40 posted on 01/07/2006 7:20:14 AM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: rlmorel

I saw the same ad and reached the same conclusion. They arent telling anyone what the movie is about...


41 posted on 01/07/2006 7:20:31 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Boazo

"Haywood Yablowmie"

One of my favorite names. :-)


42 posted on 01/07/2006 7:30:00 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Sterco

I am not saying that they are going to get rich. I am just saying that they made their money and then some. Sad!!!

Released in US December 9, 2005 (limited)
Total US Gross $16,748,000
Production Budget $13,000,000
MPAA Rating R for sexuality, nudity, language and some violence.


43 posted on 01/07/2006 7:36:27 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: bulldozer

DAvid Kupelian also wrote an excellent review of the movie called "Brokeback Mountain: Rape of the Marlboro Man" - the agenda here is not so hidden. The pervs of Hollywood have taken over the industry to de-sensitize and normalize behavior that is neither normal nor moral. The trailers on TV are deceptive. People who go to this movie and are upset once they find out the truth need to get up out of their seats and go to the Management demanding their money back, or at the very least - a pass to another movie. Make a scene, folks. You have been lied to and ripped off. Not everyone has a computer to find out what is really going on.

Here is the link:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48076


44 posted on 01/07/2006 7:42:00 AM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: ishabibble

Million Dollar Baby was a true "bait and switch." I wanted to see the movie for the precise reason that it was played up as a female Rocky flick - good characters, good story, right? Wrong! It turns out to be another euthanasia movie getting rid of people who are damaged. Thank God I read a review that was honest about this movie and the reviewer had the decency to "spoil the secret." Sorry, Clint, love ya, but you didn't get any of my money for that one.

At the time Million Dollar Baby came out, I was working with a young woman who is engaged to a young man who was in a terrible truck accident. He is a quadriplegic now living his life in a motorized wheelchair. They love to go to the movies and went to Million Dollar Baby totally unaware of the story line. Needless to say, the young man was pretty depressed afterwards. Despicable.


45 posted on 01/07/2006 7:51:57 AM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: Sioux-san
Million Dollar Baby was a true "bait and switch."

I am glad I am not the only that sees that. The adds they are doing about BrokeBack Mountain are defiantly misleading.
46 posted on 01/07/2006 8:05:09 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: rlmorel
There was NOTHING that might indicate to you the controversial nature of the movie.

But if they'd shown any faggotry on the commercial, Freepers would have complained about that, too.

47 posted on 01/07/2006 8:11:40 AM PST by Physicist
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To: rellimpank
--"you two don't go up there just to fish, do you--"

Well, I guess they go "fly" fishing.

48 posted on 01/07/2006 8:14:50 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: rlmorel

I know that my daughter-in-law didn't know what the movie was about. She was shocked when I told her.


49 posted on 01/07/2006 8:16:11 AM PST by tiki
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To: cvq3842

Personally, I like Jake Gyllenhaal. I've seen him in a number of movies, such as "Proof" and "Donnie Darko". It really unnerves me that he has made the decision to act in Brokeback.

You're right, I'll never be able to watch this talented kid in a movie without thinking, "ick".


50 posted on 01/07/2006 8:33:48 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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