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Poll: Most Say U.S. Needs Warrant to Snoop
AP ^ | 1/7/5

Posted on 01/07/2006 9:57:08 AM PST by squidly

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To: pissant

BS for sure. Just who did they ask anyway, a few in the Beltway, NYC and a few hundred Bostonians? Geez!


41 posted on 01/07/2006 10:30:41 AM PST by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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To: squidly

First, who the hell is "Ipsos", anyway?

Next, these numbers aren't even close to what more mainstream pollin has been over the past few weeks.

Move along...nothing to see here...


42 posted on 01/07/2006 10:31:10 AM PST by Bean Counter (Sorry, I don't speak "maid".)
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To: atomicpossum

But we know that AP stands for Anti-American Propaganda.


43 posted on 01/07/2006 10:32:04 AM PST by MikeHu
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To: squidly

What difference do opinion polls make when both statute and court precedents allow warrantless surveillance in certain instances?


44 posted on 01/07/2006 10:32:44 AM PST by DBrow
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To: KC_Conspirator
This is the same poll that sampled 12% more democrats. It was posted here last night. That poll smells, you got that.

I am a lawyer, but not a Constitutional or criminal lawer. That being said, despite my formal education regarding Constitutional law, I would be hesitant to make any poll to the public or even to lawyers in general.

This is a Constitutional issue, not an issue for popular vote.

45 posted on 01/07/2006 10:38:00 AM PST by Smedley
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To: squidly
These are the some poll respondents used in the Democrat/Republican congress poll released a few days ago. Using 52%/40% Democrat advantage. Over 12% RAT oversample with 80% registered voters.

The question does not mention that the suspected terrorist were outside of the country when intercepted.

The demographics were quite like those of some of 2004's exit polls that showed Kerry the big winner.

Other than talking points I don't see what advantage these type of targeted polls can have.

46 posted on 01/07/2006 10:39:13 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: csmusaret
1. Should the Bush administration be required to get a warrant from a judge before monitoring phone and internet communications between American citizens in the United States and suspected terrorists, or should the government be allowed to monitor such communications without a warrant?

56-43-2 not sure

2d. Party affiliation

Strongly GOP - 13
Moderatly GOP - 27
Independent - 8
Moderately DEM - 32
Strongly DEM - 20

The question is ambiguous, IMO. If the question is should the government be able to tap the terrorsit end, virtually everyone will say YES. If the question is should the government be able to target the US end without a warrant, the answer would be different.

Monitoring -only- international calls and -only- those where one end is a known terrorist will not be a tough issue for the President to sell to the people or to Congress. That's why I think the surveillance at issue is broader than that.

47 posted on 01/07/2006 10:39:14 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: W04Man

Yup, they've got this poll thing and election fraud down to a fine art.


48 posted on 01/07/2006 10:40:44 AM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: poobear

I wonder how many polls the AP ignores when the results come back to their disliking. I bet it is STAGGERING the number of suppressed polls that show americans to NOT be raving communists.


49 posted on 01/07/2006 10:42:20 AM PST by pissant
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To: Random Access
****Hypothetical... NSA is listening to a conversation with a terrorist in Iraq and one in Boston. They are plotting to destroy the American economy by kidnapping Ted Kennedy and putting several distilleries out of business. What do you do?***

uh... give them Kennedy's home address?

50 posted on 01/07/2006 10:44:58 AM PST by Condor51 (The above comment is time sensitive - don't BUG ME an hour from now.)
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To: pissant
Staggering would be an understatement. The bilge coming from the AP lately sounds like Al Jazeera propaganda.
51 posted on 01/07/2006 10:45:13 AM PST by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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To: DarthVader
Rasmussen said 70% of Americans favored the wiretap. Who is more accurate and who are we going to believe. Not AP-Dipsos.

The Rasmussen question reads ...

Should the National Security Agency be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorism suspects in other countries and people living in the United States?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/NSA.htm

The AP poll wording is apt to confuse readers, as it has the phrase "between US Citizens" in it, which NO DOUBT, some people will take as meaning that, without reading further. Also, the AP poll was whether or not a warrant should be required, but the Rasmussen poll doesn't say one way or the other. Here, some (maybe even most) participants may have imputed the warrantless aspect, even though it wasn't expressed in the question.

52 posted on 01/07/2006 10:45:59 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: poobear

Actually, Al Jazeera is more pro american.


53 posted on 01/07/2006 10:46:09 AM PST by pissant
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To: squidly

Here's a poll to conduct in this country...."do you think that monitoring phone calls to certain Middle East/Muslim countries might have prevented 9/11?"


54 posted on 01/07/2006 10:47:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: squidly
I want to see the actual poll, with the questions, complete and in context.

This smells like the typical MSM "push poll", where the questions are asked in a manner so as to get the answers they want. Then they spin the results even more.

55 posted on 01/07/2006 10:51:46 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: boomop1

A dumb American poll as per usual.""

We all know how a "poll" can be skewed.

I don't trust this either...
They must have asked all Demorats and only those who live behind gated guard houses in high end communities.


56 posted on 01/07/2006 10:56:19 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: pissant

"Actually, Al Jazeera is more pro american."

;D!

ya gotta point there pissant!


57 posted on 01/07/2006 10:58:15 AM PST by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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To: Random Access; humblegunner; Eaker
Hypothetical... NSA is listening to a conversation with a terrorist in Iraq and one in Boston. They are plotting to destroy the American economy by kidnapping Ted Kennedy and putting several distilleries out of business. What do you do?

Just because information is collected does not mean it must be acted upon.

Are you implying that taking Teddy out the market would drive several distilleries out of business? If so, I'm sure there's a few hundred or a few thousand FREEPERs that would step up and make up the difference in consumption. Humblegunner, Eaker and several other of the Houston area chapter would gladly make the sacrifice I'm sure.

58 posted on 01/07/2006 11:01:12 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Random Access; humblegunner; Eaker
Hypothetical... NSA is listening to a conversation with a terrorist in Iraq and one in Boston. They are plotting to destroy the American economy by kidnapping Ted Kennedy and putting several distilleries out of business. What do you do?

Just because information is collected does not mean it must be acted upon.

Are you implying that taking Teddy out the market would drive several distilleries out of business? If so, I'm sure there's a few hundred or a few thousand FREEPERs that would step up and make up the difference in consumption. Humblegunner, Eaker and several other of the Houston area chapter would gladly make the sacrifice I'm sure.

59 posted on 01/07/2006 11:01:14 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: squidly

Is there another country that even thinks of getting a bench warrant before checking in on its citizens?


60 posted on 01/07/2006 11:04:25 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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