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Saddam's Terrorist Ties
The American Thinker ^

Posted on 01/07/2006 3:10:29 PM PST by april15Bendovr

Saddam's Terrorist Ties

The Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes has been trying for a significant amount of time to get released publicly the captured Iraqi documents (only 2.5 % of which have as yet been translated).

He advises that some are about to be released. And they should put an end to the preposterous claims that the Baathists would never work with the Jihadis.

Here is what the soon to be released documents reveal, Hayes says:

The secret training took place primarily at three camps-in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak-and was directed by elite Iraqi military units. Interviews by U.S. government interrogators with Iraqi regime officials and military leaders corroborate the documentary evidence. Many of the fighters were drawn from terrorist groups in northern Africa with close ties to al Qaeda, chief among them Algeria’s GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic Army. Some 2,000 terrorists were trained at these Iraqi camps each year from 1999 to 2002, putting the total number at or above 8,000. Intelligence officials believe that some of these terrorists returned to Iraq and are responsible for attacks against Americans and Iraqis. According to three officials with knowledge of the intelligence on Iraqi training camps, White House and National Security Council officials were briefed on these findings in May 2005; senior Defense Department officials subsequently received the same briefing.

The photographs and documents on Iraqi training camps come from a collection of some 2 million “exploitable items” captured in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan. They include handwritten notes, typed documents, audiotapes, videotapes, compact discs, floppy discs, and computer hard drives. Taken together, this collection could give U.S. intelligence officials and policymakers an inside look at the activities of the former Iraqi regime in the months and years before the Iraq war.

“As much as we overestimated WMD, it appears we underestimated [Saddam Hussein’s] support for transregional terrorists,” says one intelligence official.

Speaking of Ansar al Islam, the al Qaeda-linked terrorist group that operated in northern Iraq, the former high-ranking military intelligence officer says: “There is no question about the fact that AI had reach into Baghdad. There was an intelligence connection between that group and the regime, a financial connection between that group and the regime, and there was an equipment connection. It may have been the case that the IIS [Iraqi Intelligence Service] support for AI was meant to operate against the [anti-Saddam] Kurds. But there is no question IIS was supporting AI.”

The official continued:

”[Saddam] used these groups because he was interested in extending his influence and extending the influence of Iraq. There are definite and absolute ties to terrorism. The evidence is there, especially at the network level. How high up in the government was it sanctioned? I can’t tell you. I don’t know whether it was run by Qusay [Hussein] or [Izzat Ibrahim] al-Duri or someone else. I’m just not sure. But to say Iraq wasn’t involved in terrorism is flat wrong.”

Hayes details the great difficulty in getting all this documentation translated and released, and all of us share his frustration. And I wonder if when this batch is released the media will not cherry pick it and underplay the evidence of the links between Saddam’s Iraq and terrorism.

But slow translation of captured , valuable war documents is nothing new. In the 1980’s until the Department of Justice Office of Special Investigations started work on them,many captured Nazi documents remained untranslated and virtually unusable for research.

And you thought the final scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark was fiction

Clarice Feldman 1 07 06


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; iraq; saddam; stephenfhayes
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1 posted on 01/07/2006 3:10:31 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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People need to pay close attention to the DOCEX project.


2 posted on 01/07/2006 3:12:39 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
Saddam's Terrorist Ties

Just great. Blo'Reilly sells ties on his show, Limbauhg sells ties on HIS show, and now Hussein... In court? Or from his cell?

3 posted on 01/07/2006 3:20:02 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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Speaking of Ansar al Islam, the al Qaeda-linked terrorist group that operated in northern Iraq, the former high-ranking military intelligence officer says: “There is no question about the fact that AI had reach into Baghdad. There was an intelligence connection between that group and the regime, a financial connection between that group and the regime, and there was an equipment connection. It may have been the case that the IIS [Iraqi Intelligence Service] support for AI was meant to operate against the [anti-Saddam] Kurds. But there is no question IIS was supporting AI.”

Well, now. Wouldn't that be OPERATIONAL COORDINATION between Iraq and Al Qaeda, which even those who have allowed that there was communication and training have denied (e.g. Senate Intelligence Select Committee)?

4 posted on 01/07/2006 3:21:23 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: april15Bendovr

BTTT!


5 posted on 01/07/2006 3:26:46 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: april15Bendovr

I imagine evidence of 8000 terrorists training in Iraq pre war should rattle a few cages!


6 posted on 01/07/2006 3:28:25 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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What I don't understand is why would the Kurds allow Terroists in Northern Iraq?
Is it possible that the terrorist were aligned along religious ties with the Kurds?
The NO FLY zone would have kept Saddams AF from this area.
If they were being helped by Saddam why the North?


7 posted on 01/07/2006 3:30:31 PM PST by earplug
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To: april15Bendovr

Scott Ritter can kiss my ass wherever he is


8 posted on 01/07/2006 3:31:31 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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Attorney General Gonzales Must Investigate

An open letter from Clarice Feldman @ The American Thinker http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=4109

1 06 06
Dear Mr. Attorney General:

Twice in recent days we have seen published evidence of unethical conduct warranting disciplinary action on the part of FISA judges. Since they have hidden their conduct under a cloak of anonymity, the normal process of filing complaints with the Clerk of the FISA Court is unavailing. Therefore, I ask that you immediately institute an investigation to find out which judges are involved and seek appropriate measures to remove or discipline the judges involved.

Let’s review that evidence briefly:

In his December 16, 2005 article in the New York Times, James Risen says:

According to those officials and others, reservations about aspects of the program have also been expressed by Senator John D. Rockefeller IV, the West Virginia Democrat who is the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and a judge presiding over a secret court that oversees intelligence matters.

This suggests that a judge on the FISA court was one of Risen’s sources. If there is any ambiguity, this article in Thursday’s Washington Post, [assuming the newspaper and its reporter have not perpetrated a hoax] establishes beyond peradventure of doubt that some judges on the Court did speak anonymously and in violation of the Code of Judicial Conduct and basic precepts of appropriate judicial conduct to that reporter:

Some judges who spoke on the condition of anonymity yesterday said they want to know whether warrants they signed were tainted by the NSA program. Depending on the answers, the judges said they could demand some proof that wiretap applications were not improperly obtained. Defense attorneys could have a valid argument to suppress evidence against their clients, some judges said, if information about them was gained through warrantless eavesdropping that was not revealed to the defense.

As Andrew McCarthy of the National Review reminds us this is shocking conduct:

First of all, judges speaking to the press regarding matters that may end up in litigation is always a major impropriety, regardless of what kind of matters are involved. Canon 3 of the federal Code of Judicial Conduct expressly admonishes: “A judge should avoid public comment on the merits of a pending or impending action, requiring similar restraint by court personnel subject to the judge’s direction and control.” This is so elementary to fairness and impartiality ­ the hallmarks of the judicial function ­ that it is almost surprising to find a rule about it.

But let’s leave that aside for a second. These are the judges of the FISA court. Of the hundreds of federal judges in the United States, there are, as already noted, less than a dozen specially chosen for these weighty responsibilities. They are selected largely because they are thought to be of unquestionable rectitude, particularly when it comes to things like leaking to the press.

To find federal FISA court judges leaking to the Washington Post about an upcoming closed meeting with administration officials about the highest classified matters of national security in the middle of a war is simply shocking.

Even more mind-blowing, though, is to find them discussing what they see as the merits of the issue. Without having heard any facts or taken any submissions on the governing law ­ and in the cowardice of anonymity ­ here they are speculating for the media about what positions they might take depending on how the administration answers their questions. Here they are preliminarily weighing in on the validity of defense claims in cases where FISA evidence was introduced. This is an inexplicable judicial misconduct.

He’s right. I urge you to act promptly and put the reporters and FISA Judges under oath, to get to the bottom of this apparent flagrant abuse of office.

Linked from Rush's web site: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com


9 posted on 01/07/2006 3:47:47 PM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: april15Bendovr

A lot more "connect the dots" need to be done on this. And hopefully in graphical format so the DU tribe will understand.


10 posted on 01/07/2006 3:52:10 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: earplug

Yep, that is what DU is asking anyway. Any answers out there?


11 posted on 01/07/2006 3:54:15 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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.....so the DU tribe will understand

A whole bunch of crayons are going to be needed for this job.

12 posted on 01/07/2006 3:58:04 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......Politically incorrect by Intelligent Design........()
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Frightening. Here's hoping THEY do not have the WMD's.
13 posted on 01/07/2006 4:10:53 PM PST by msnimje (This space is currently undergoing maintenance.)
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To: april15Bendovr

These people make me sick by doing that. It is like, we support you if you kill your parents who is the authority in your house (well if you are under 21 and still living under the same roof).


14 posted on 01/07/2006 4:19:01 PM PST by chachachia
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And a Whole Coloring Book.....with Connect the Dots pictures....LOL.


15 posted on 01/07/2006 4:25:57 PM PST by goodnesswins (Lies never sleep)
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To: april15Bendovr

If you try to search the keywords "Saddam's Terrorist Ties" on google or yahoo you will only find few current updated discussion on this topic. Those that appear on the search engines is usually the right-leaning site. The mainstream media never bring it up at all. Do you think they are trying to censor this current finding? I can't wait until the Whitehouse release this finding officially. It will be a big smack to the leftists.


16 posted on 01/07/2006 4:27:10 PM PST by chachachia
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Have you guys noticed that it is finally confirmed Democrat political leaders aligned themselves with Al-Qaeda on the idea that US is losing the war in Iraq. We knew back then but nobody believe that Democrats are giving comfort to the enemies. US troops have to fight two fronts. The enemies in Iraq and the "enemies" at home.


17 posted on 01/07/2006 4:37:04 PM PST by chachachia
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There is more search and avoid info on prewar intelligence.

They search hard at disproving prewar intelligence while ignoring the DOCEX project, Operation Able Danger and Salman Pak.
18 posted on 01/07/2006 4:59:24 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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The MSM will undoubtedly scream that the White House has
been with holding information regarding this important issue.

I can see this coming, like a Mack Truck down the Interstate.


19 posted on 01/07/2006 5:42:43 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()......Politically incorrect by Intelligent Design........()
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Stephen Hayes has been a lone soldier in his quest for info that the DOCEX project has been working on.

(only 2.5 % of which have as yet been translated)

We only scratched the surface on translating info collected on intelligence connections. What makes the MSM so sure that there are no links?


20 posted on 01/07/2006 6:52:07 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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