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U.S. shouldn't have to do tap dance over bugging
http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn08.html ^ | Jan 8, 2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/08/2006 2:25:00 AM PST by mal

Here's a Reuters headline from New Year's Day: "CIA May Need Decade To Rebuild Clandestine Service."

A decade, huh? Circa 2016, you mean? The last time I checked the job-completion estimates was back in spring 2004, when the agency's then-director, George Tenet, told the 9/11 Commission that it would take another half-decade to rebuild the clandestine service. In other words, three years after 9/11, he was saying he needed another five years. As I wrote at the time, "Imagine if, after Pearl Harbor, Franklin Roosevelt had turned to Tenet to start up the OSS, the CIA's Second World War predecessor. In 1942, he'd have told the president not to worry, he'd have it up and running by 1950."

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; alqaeda; americahate; cia; fisa; gwot; marksteyn; nsa; patriotleak; spying; steyn; terrorism; terrorists; waronterror; wiretapping; wot

1 posted on 01/08/2006 2:25:02 AM PST by mal
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To: mal
The Democrats' answer to Al Qaeda is to leave America defenseless. So this is what they mean by threatening the President with impeachment for listening in on potential terrorists' conversations. It beggars the mind how liberals elevate their moral superiority over our country's survival.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

2 posted on 01/08/2006 2:45:11 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mal
Democrats: Dances With Bin Laden, Zawihiri and al Zarqawi.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 01/08/2006 2:55:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Better fit: American Left Dances With Islamic Wolves.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

4 posted on 01/08/2006 3:02:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mal

well if the dems want to commit suicide, i say we help 'em,,,and fast,,,,get'em out of the way so we can fight....we don't need them anyway...where is that cliff the lemmings use?


5 posted on 01/08/2006 3:18:45 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: mal

"Do you want Iyman Faris in jail? Or do you think he should have the run of the planet until he's actually destroyed the bridge and killed hundreds of people?"

No. I want him DEAD. Like those IRA terrorists mentioned in the story.

If you won't kill the lyman Faris' of the world then 'prepare to lose the war'.


6 posted on 01/08/2006 4:43:13 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: mal
The CIA bureaucrats are more deeply entrenched than the North Korean nuclear program. They're dug in, and will resist reform and change until that bright, epiphinal day when someone in Washington grows a set of testicles and fires them.

We've got plenty of talent out there that could be used to replace the career paperpushers (who's careers are a delicate balance of incompetence, political correctness, and egotism). It's just that we timidly refuse to clean house, and they are adamantly opposed to changing how they do business.

Everyone saw this coming, too. We need the current CIA leadership about as much as an ambulance driver needs an angry cobra in the passenger seat. The upper tiers of the agency are going to fight the President's agenda to their dying breath. It's long past time to shut down the CIA and recreate the OSS or a similar agency. One that is both competent to do their jobs, and inclined to.

7 posted on 01/08/2006 5:01:08 AM PST by Steel Wolf (If the Founders had wanted the President to be spying on our phone calls, they would have said so!)
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To: Steel Wolf

Agreed about the bureaucrats, But it DOES take time to train, emplace, and properly cover clandestine service officers. . .


8 posted on 01/08/2006 6:24:27 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: mal
"Sen. Barbara Boxer and her colleagues are apparently considering impeaching the president for eavesdropping on al Qaida calls made to U.S. phone numbers. Surely, even Karl Rove can't get that lucky."

Yes he can. Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots in the 'Rat party. LOL

Unfortunately, the incompetence and CYA mentalitiy of the Federal government, FBI, CIA et al dates back to at least 1983 when the Reagan administration's response after the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut was....nothing, nada, zip, zero and the CYA metalitity and incompetence continues to this day! That we haven't had another 9/11 type terroist attack in America since 9/11 is nothing short of a miracle but then it was eight years between the first WTC bombing and 9/11.
9 posted on 01/08/2006 6:34:45 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: mal; Pokey78
...Abu Musad al-Zarqawi testifying that he only called Howard Dean to issue a formal complaint about congressional Democrats stealing his rationalizations.

Steyn bump and a ping to Pokey78.

10 posted on 01/08/2006 7:06:08 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; JohnHuang2; ...

Steyn ping!


11 posted on 01/08/2006 8:17:41 AM PST by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: metesky

Than ks for the ping!


12 posted on 01/08/2006 8:19:04 AM PST by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: Racehorse

Steyn ping!


13 posted on 01/08/2006 8:20:39 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: goldstategop
The Democrats' answer to Al Qaeda is to leave America defenseless

You've got that exactly right - be sure to read the last panel:


14 posted on 01/08/2006 8:23:47 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 01/08/2006 8:24:55 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings; Pokey78

Ping


16 posted on 01/08/2006 8:33:46 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: mal

BTTT


17 posted on 01/08/2006 9:25:27 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: mal
"It's very hard to fight a terrorist war without intelligence. By definition, you can only win battles against terrorists pre-emptively -- that's to say, you find out what they're planning to do next Thursday and you stop it cold on Wednesday. Capturing them on Friday while you're still pulling your dead from the rubble is poor consolation."

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Why is this so hard to understand?! Or do the Dems WANT innocent Americans to die?

This is an absolutely must read article. Steyn nails it, as usual, but this is such an important topic, our lives literally depend on preventing terror attacks.

18 posted on 01/08/2006 12:27:43 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping.

The article is full of gems, as usual.

"Do you want Iyman Faris in jail? Or do you think he should have the run of the planet until he's actually destroyed the bridge and killed hundreds of people? Say, the Golden Gate Bridge just as you're driving across after voting for Barbara Boxer and congratulating yourself on your moral superiority."


19 posted on 01/08/2006 12:29:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: goldstategop

"if the Democrats have their way, all terrorist cells in Europe or Pakistan would have to do to put themselves beyond the reach of U.S. intelligence is get a New Jersey-based associate to place a bulk order for Verizon cell phones."


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That's about it.


20 posted on 01/08/2006 12:31:19 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping, Pokey!


21 posted on 01/08/2006 6:47:04 PM PST by alwaysconservative (McKinney: a mind is a terrible thing to waste. Ted Kennedy: a waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
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To: mal
According to a Rasmussen poll, 64 percent of Americans believe the National Security Agency should be allowed to intercept telephone conversations between terrorist cells overseas and persons living in the United States; 23 percent disagree. What is it the Democrats and media don't get about this?

What they get is that if they lie long enough and loud enough they can invert those numbers.

22 posted on 01/09/2006 2:40:08 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the 3/1 H&S Company in Haditha.)
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To: FairOpinion
Or do the Dems WANT innocent Americans to die?

If it will win them elections...

23 posted on 01/09/2006 5:59:08 AM PST by CPOSharky (Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Like demoncrats.)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping.


24 posted on 01/09/2006 9:17:36 AM PST by Bigoleelephant
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To: All

Everybody. Read the entire article.

The democrats and the media totally suck!


25 posted on 01/09/2006 6:13:55 PM PST by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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