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Rallies Draw Dueling Protesters in Clashes Over Illegal Immigration (pics)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 1/8/2005 | Rich Connell and David Haldane

Posted on 01/08/2006 8:37:34 AM PST by Ladycalif

Hundreds of protesters squared off in tense and boisterous confrontations Saturday at Southern California day laborer sites, as activists opposing illegal immigration stepped up a nationwide effort to cut off jobs for undocumented workers.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; aliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationlist
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1 posted on 01/08/2006 8:37:34 AM PST by Ladycalif
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To: Ladycalif; ElkGroveDan; Bob J; Bush gal in LA; Bikers4Bush; janetgreen; dennisw; gubamyster; ...

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2 posted on 01/08/2006 8:39:04 AM PST by Ladycalif (Gilchrist for Congress; Elect a Minuteman! http://www.jimgilchrist.com/)
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To: Ladycalif

gosh, i thought no one showed up to support immigration reform. Am I going to beleive the liberal press or my lying eyes that sees picture of lots of protestors. I should call Pat Robinson for clarification and comment.


3 posted on 01/08/2006 8:46:14 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Galveston Grl

depends on where you go. An article from Bakersfield about Glendale, Ca, Home Depot, was what I saw onthis website a little while ago.

This is Laguna. Lots of people including Jim gilchrist...congressional candidate/.


4 posted on 01/08/2006 8:47:59 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: television is just wrong

Well the press must have looked for protestors where they were not. I did not see any protestors outside my window, either.


5 posted on 01/08/2006 8:49:32 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Ladycalif

What did that sign they're holding lopsidedly say? One word is blocked by one of the muchachos.

"Somos un pueblo
XXX Fronteras"

Which I read as probably "Sin" which would make the sense of the sentence, "We are one people, without borders."

Kinda reeks of entitlement, if that's what it says. But then again, Mexicans are told from childhood that the USA is rich, because it stole it all from Mexico.

(Mexico is poor, because the entrenched Mexican elite, people like Vicente Fox, steal from all Mexico. Think about it: why should prosperity stop, hard, at la frontera? The land is the same. The people are the same -- people are fundamentally the same everywhere, it's leadership that makes some peoples great and others wretched. Only the political structure is different).

I don't want us to turn into another Mexico, where rich white people lead lives of leisure on the backs of their brown mestizo and indio slaves. Even though I'm one of the rich white people.

The answer to me is obvious: more freedom in Mexico is more prosperity for Mexicans -- which means the overthrow of the feudal oligharchy screwing up Mexico is in the American national interest. We should be working now to identify, educate, groom and support the leaders of the revolution.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


6 posted on 01/08/2006 8:54:37 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Criminal Number 18F

It is "sin"

It is a variaton of the Socialist slogan

"Somos un mundo
sin Fronteras"


7 posted on 01/08/2006 8:56:04 AM PST by Ladycalif (Gilchrist for Congress; Elect a Minuteman! http://www.jimgilchrist.com/)
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To: Galveston Grl

More here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1553967/posts


8 posted on 01/08/2006 8:57:14 AM PST by Ladycalif (Gilchrist for Congress; Elect a Minuteman! http://www.jimgilchrist.com/)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

"I don't want us to turn into another Mexico, where rich white people lead lives of leisure on the backs of their brown mestizo and indio slaves. Even though I'm one of the rich white people."

Oh, trust me, that won't happen...when they get here and really start taking over, they'll use affirmative action (racist discrimination) to make sure that your kids don't have a chance at a decent future.


9 posted on 01/08/2006 9:58:34 AM PST by Altamira (Get the UN out of the US, and the US out of the UN!)
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To: Ladycalif

WHERE THEY WORK / PEW HISPANIC CENTER; CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES

Landscaping 28%
Animal slaughter 20%
Cleaning 19%
Laundry 17%
Apparel 16%
Crop product%ion 16%
Private Households 14%
Hospitality 14%
Restaurants 11%
Construction 10%


10 posted on 01/08/2006 10:01:59 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

Is that list an attempt to justify the illegality of their actions, of their "fight"?


11 posted on 01/08/2006 10:07:30 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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The immigrant-illegal con game is so predictable: They whine about coming here b/c they want only to get menial jobs (outlined above) to help out their poverty-stricken families in "underdeveloped countries."

Then, before you can say "hasta la vista, baby," working class born-American taxpayers are footing the bills for immigrants' medical needs, welfare, food stamps, housing, all levels of schooling including college, child care, maternity benefits, and so on.

Taxpayers are subsidizing immigrants' daily food intake, housing, reduced mortgages, free medical, education, reduced in-state tuition and out of state tuition fees.

We also foot the legal bills when they start suing if we don't provide these goodies pronto.

Lastly, and more ominous, is that they become hyphenated voting blocs, demanding representation in the US Congress, state legislatures and beyond so that they can get even more government benefits.

They bring with them their utter contempt for our efforts to maintain a civilied society under our Constitution.

Oh, did I hear you say "underdeveloped countries?"

The government of Mexico---with all of its oil revenue----needs to be taking care of its own people, not "outsourcing' them as wards of American taxpayers. Mexico can well-afford it. Mexico has more "Forbes" billionaires, 11, than all but eight other nations. It has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan.

It also has more than 85,000 millionaires. According to a CNN report, Mexico sits on oil reserves worth about $400 billion, but Mexico's state-owned oil company, Pemex, doesn't have the investment funds to tap those reserves, and Mexico's Congress refuses to allow foreign investment in Pemex.

However, some observers say this is due to Mexican gov't corruption, and the obsession to line their own pockets. Adding insult to injury American taxpayers are subsidizing foreign aid transfers to Mexico.

According to Visa International--which is now clamoring for a share of the transfer fees--American money sent South of the Border by illegals constitutes $38 BILLION this year alone constituting Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

America should mandate proof for all cash transfers out of the US and/or force all transferring agencies -- banks, credit unions, Amex, Western Union to collect a substantial withholding tax -- 50%, say -- on every unexplained foreign remittance.

Mexico is a wealthy oil-producing neighbor of the US forces its poor people to flee to the US to work and then send money back home.

Mexico has no welfare safety nets, health insurance for its people and no Social Security System.

More pointedly, the US provides the defense umbrella to protect Mexico like we do for Canada. So they have no real defense expenses.

America needs to seal our borders and let Vincente Fox know that we will cut off every penny in aid he gets from the United States.

This unmitigated contempt for America, and working-class, tax-paying Americans, cannot go unchallenged.

One FReeper posted that his father was a doctor with his own hospital. He complained more than once about watching a car drive around the block numerous times, until it would pull in to the ambulance drive, just in time for the mother to have the baby. He knew he would see little, if any, money for this delivery. This complaint from a noble, giving doctor who would forgive any payment, or take barter for pay.....even as he was striving to support his own family.

God knows how many times illegals pulled off this scam, while the US taxpayer keeps paying and paying and paying.

The sense of entitlement these people have is outrageous-----that the rest of us owe them a living. And that US citizens, and the US government, exist for their convenience.

The only thing between us and camouflage-clad generalissimos patrolling our streets with shoulder holsters...............is a Constitution.

12 posted on 01/08/2006 10:48:36 AM PST by Liz (You may not be interested in politics; doesn't mean politics isn't interested in you. Pericles)
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To: Liz

Yes, I know all that.

The question was whether you were defending the illegal activity.

The short answer would have been "no."

Thanks for the info, though.


13 posted on 01/08/2006 11:01:46 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F

Mexicans should immigrate to the U.S. through legal channels like people from other parts of the world do. If they don't respect our immigration laws there is a good chance they wont respect other laws either.


14 posted on 01/08/2006 11:16:35 AM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: gubamyster
El Pingo
15 posted on 01/08/2006 12:36:15 PM PST by LNewman
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To: Mulch
If they don't respect our immigration laws there is a good chance they wont respect other laws either.

Good point. To which I'll add, the Mexican government doesn't respect our laws either. Mexico has no death sentence and no term of life imprisonment. So a Mexican charged with any offence liable to either sentence -- a murderer, kidnapper, serial child molester, or violent career criminal, usually -- will not be extradited from Mexico to face trial in the USA.

Almost all the wanted murderers in LA County are living under Fox's protection in Mexico -- quite openly.

Mind you, that doesn't mean there's no death penalty in Mexico, it's just not judicial. Irritate the wrong power broker and a couple Federales will come by one night and whack you. There's really no respect for the law in Mexico, because family connexion trumps law in all cases.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

16 posted on 01/08/2006 1:27:40 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Criminal Number 18F

Kinda reeks of entitlement, if that's what it says. But then again, Mexicans are told from childhood that the USA is rich, because it stole it all from Mexico.

Whom took it from the Spanish
Whom took it from the Aztecs
Whom took it from other Indian tribes


17 posted on 01/08/2006 6:43:33 PM PST by kaktuskid
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