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It's the Sex, Stupid: A Response to Mark Steyn
Townhall.com ^ | Jan. 9, 2006 | Jennifer Roback Morse

Posted on 01/09/2006 12:12:32 PM PST by DeweyCA

Mark Steyn’s analysis of “The Real Reason the West is in Danger of Extinction” is completely correct in his important recent article, “It’s the Demography, Stupid.” But behind the problem of the West’s below replacement fertility levels, lies the problem of sex. Babies come from sex. The modern view of sex has created the demographic collapse of the West, and the human void into which Islamic fertility is rapidly flooding. Sex is an organic reality, with two natural purposes written on the human body. The first is procreation. The second is not so obvious but equally important. Sex builds up and solidifies the relationship between the members of the couple. We know now that sexual activity physiologically creates a bond between the partners.

Women connect to their sex partners, and to their children, due to a hormone called oxytocin. Women secrete this hormone during orgasm, and while breast feeding. Oxytocin creates a response of “attach and connect.” It promotes attachment between a mother and her newborn infant, so that she will enjoy taking care of the helpless infant’s needs. Oxytocin promotes her connection with her sex partner, who after all, may become the father of her child. All this is nature’s way of keeping the woman bonded to her child and to her child’s father.

These natural purposes build the community of the family. Procreation brings new life into the family. Because sex supports the relationship between the parents, it helps them work together long enough to raise their children to adulthood. The fact that sex is fun is along for the ride. The fun is nature’s way of getting us to keep the species going.

But the modern world has completely lost sight of the social purposes of sex. We now regard sex as a private recreational activity, with no moral or social significance. Unlimited sexual activity without a live baby resulting is the quintessential modern entitlement.

I call this modern view, consumer sex. Sex is a consumer good and our sex partners are objects that please us more or less well. When I am speaking at college campuses, and feeling particularly mischievous, I call it Wal-Mart sex. (I myself have no problem with Wal-Mart, but I can always count on finding Wal-Mart haters on college campuses.) The modern sexual ethos provides us with large amounts of low-cost sex, without ever taking into account the spill-over costs associated with our behavior.

I submit that this view of sex is at the root of the West’s demographic death spiral. Sex is naturally a force for sociability. Consumer sex inverts the whole natural order of sexuality. Instead of drawing us out of ourselves and into relationship with others, we turn sex inward, on ourselves and our own individual pleasure. The natural purposes of sex, both procreation and spousal unity, have become strictly optional. We think we are entitled to have sex with someone we’re not married to, or not even in a relationship with. And we have created a conspiracy of silence around the sad fact that no one really wants to be on the receiving end of this “use and be used” culture.

Demographic collapse is hardly surprising. Many commentators have observed that children have become a commodity, an extra line on the accomplished woman’s resume. Few have noticed the short, direct line from sex as a commodity, to sex partner as commodity, to babies as commodities.

Without permanent bonds between parents, having babies is a risky business. Marriage is the healthiest, most reliable environment in which to bring children from helpless infancy to productive adulthood. But our society has become indifferent as to whether parents are married or not. We are even on the verge of becoming indifferent as to whether children have two parents of the opposite sex or of the same sex. Hardly a cultural environment conducive to having a higher than replacement level of fertility.

So, as I said, Mark Steyn’s article is correct in every particular. But I didn’t rush to the computer to compose another op-ed column, as well-argued articles often inspire me to do. This time, I reached for the Flash Cards. That’s right. A grown woman, with a doctorate in economics, I reached for the Flash Cards.

I was one of those career women who thought I was being sensible to postpone childbearing until I had tenure. I have had only one “live birth,” as the demographers would say. In that sense, I am part of the problem of the well-educated, high-income women who can’t bring themselves to replace themselves.

But I was blessed with adoption. And, Divine Providence, acting through San Diego County Child Protective Services, has placed two school-aged foster children in my care. I didn’t bring them into the world, but I have at least temporary responsibility for them. Mark Steyn inspired me to make sure that these two little rascals learn enough math to take care of themselves when they grow up. Goodness knows, no one else is likely to do that for them. Not their birth parents, the County’s agencies or the public schools.

What women do and want will be decisive in determining whether the West survives the demographic clash with Islam. If intelligent, educated women believe children are an unacceptable distraction from their careers, we won’t have many kids. If women regard flash cards as beneath their dignity, educating the next generation will be left to hired help. If women think raising a child alone is less trouble than dealing with a pesky man, we’ll have a lot of stressed out single mothers and poorly raised kids.

So, stay at home moms, don’t let anyone tell you that you are wasting your talents. Without your contribution of a healthy, functioning next generation, all the strength of the U.S. military won’t be enough to protect us from the primal force of Islam that believes in itself enough to replace itself. Your actions show that you believe in your civilization enough to invest in its future.

Jennifer Roback Morse, Ph.D., is the founder and chief visionary of Your Coach for the Culture Wars, a business devoted to supporting organizations that want to preserve their core values and achieve prosperity by taking a stand in the Culture Wars.


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Only now are people starting to realize the cost of "free sex." Free sex may end up costing us Western Civilization.

But hey, if it feels good, do it, right?! /sarcasm

1 posted on 01/09/2006 12:12:34 PM PST by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA
And the moose have "Leb style" ready to inflict on the infidel.
2 posted on 01/09/2006 12:16:37 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: DeweyCA

Bump


3 posted on 01/09/2006 12:18:48 PM PST by JOAT
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To: DeweyCA

Amazing. Sex has power.


4 posted on 01/09/2006 12:21:10 PM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: DeweyCA
I'd add - the advent of the birth control pill has a huge impact. One now "times" when they want children - or not. I doubt the pill is as available in less developed countries.

The feminist movement also has some bearing. Women don't need men any more for life enrichment (sexually and culturally) as they did in the past (or so they say!)

Last, economics. When women went en masse to the work force, the market responded by creating needs for the new income. This begat the two income house hold to meet the needs of the market, doing away with the "stay at home mom". This reduced the birth rate in part.

5 posted on 01/09/2006 12:21:59 PM PST by llevrok (Chutzpah, with salsa on the side.)
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To: DeweyCA
Women secrete this hormone during orgasm...Oxytocin promotes her connection with her sex partner

I guess that's why my first wife left me...

6 posted on 01/09/2006 12:22:04 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: ncountylee

what on earth does that mean?


7 posted on 01/09/2006 12:22:21 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help...)
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To: DeweyCA

Excellent post, and disturbingly accurate.


8 posted on 01/09/2006 12:23:21 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: DeweyCA
Jennifer Roback Morse

I see Jennifer has graduated to the same naming convention for females as :

Hillary Rodham Clinton

9 posted on 01/09/2006 12:24:16 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: dirtboy
I guess that's why my first wife left me...

Clean up in cubicle 7S42 .. coffee spatter on screen and keyboard.

10 posted on 01/09/2006 12:29:18 PM PST by tx_eggman (Leave them whimpering in a pool of sweat - Hook'em Horns)
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To: DeweyCA; All

She makes some very good points, and you might want to check out some of her books, too.

"So, stay at home moms, don’t let anyone tell you that you are wasting your talents. Without your contribution of a healthy, functioning next generation, all the strength of the U.S. military won’t be enough to protect us from the primal force of Islam that believes in itself enough to replace itself. Your actions show that you believe in your civilization enough to invest in its future."

Thanks, Jennifer! I always knew I was doing the right thing in raising my own kid (and my nephews, too!) :)


11 posted on 01/09/2006 12:31:24 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Common Tator

So what? My father had no sons. We gave our boys my maiden name as their middle name. If I had a girl, I would probably done the same. In some cultures that is the norm.


12 posted on 01/09/2006 12:32:07 PM PST by Ruth A.
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To: DeweyCA
Very accurate article. It is nice to see someone branch out further from a Steyn article.

Free sex has many prices.

13 posted on 01/09/2006 12:33:23 PM PST by Ruth A.
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To: DeweyCA

bttt


14 posted on 01/09/2006 12:34:50 PM PST by bvw
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To: DeweyCA
I think the underlying problem is the way in which a culture views itself. We viewed ourselves as downright heroic, after winning WWII. We were the good guys, the ones with the white hats.

But almost overnight in 1968, we changed our minds (or the MSM convinced us to change our minds). We were evil, we were poisoning the world with pollution. We were killers in Vietnam.

Who would want to bring babies into an evil world? Our children would be evil, no one wants that.

The cure for this is to re-convince ourselves that we are a good country. We brought civilization to Iraq, in just the latest example of doing good. We are a good people.

Most Red Staters already think that, and they have more children. Most Blue Staters don't think that, and they have less children.

There was a book many years ago called "I'm OK, you're OK". I think someone needs to write the book, "We're OK".

15 posted on 01/09/2006 12:36:42 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: llevrok

Back in the early 80s in El Salvador I know that subsidized birth control pills were available to peasants for three colones per month (about 55 cents U.S.).

But even in Central America it seemed that the educated women were not having many children.

I dated a bank employee who made a very humble salary but was able to afford her own little apartment and have a maid come in to iron her bank uniforms (a Latin American thing). The illiterate maid was just a bit older than my young childless senorita but the maid had five children. When the banker berated her for getting pregnant again and questioning how she could affod it, the maid just acted like there was nothing one could expect her to do about it.


16 posted on 01/09/2006 12:39:22 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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To: narby
Most Red Staters already think that, and they have more children. Most Blue Staters don't think that, and they have less children.

From Steyn's article, I noticed something about the demographics he mentioned. In 50 years, the population of the US will be up to 400 million. Not a big increase for 50 years, however, what he mentioned was this: the population of the blue states, in that period, will decrease, and the population of the red states will increase. Basically, not only will the red states make up the decline in blue state population, they will add more on to it. That's probably a good thing for us in the long run.
17 posted on 01/09/2006 12:42:43 PM PST by JamesP81
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To: DeweyCA
Free sex?

While I've run across a few trashy women over the years, weren't none of 'em cheap.

18 posted on 01/09/2006 12:42:58 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: DeweyCA

"free" sex eventually leads to emotional impotency.


19 posted on 01/09/2006 12:43:27 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Ruth A.
I think his point is, that Rodham is not Hillary's middle name. Now we don't know for sure if Roback is the authors maiden name or middle name but it sure sounds like her maiden name. There's a big difference between the two. It is even more difficult for the children. Mom separates herself from the family when intent on not fully taking the father and children's name.
20 posted on 01/09/2006 12:45:43 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: dirtboy

If you call your sex "Wal-Mart sex", you have a quality control issue.


21 posted on 01/09/2006 12:46:45 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: narby; Dog Gone; Rabid Dog; RonDog

My point of view is similar, but different enough to be worth airing.

I don't want to bring children into an unhappy world, a world where happiness is elusive, and grumpy, grim pessimism is the fad of the day.

We're richer than ever, we have more wonderful tools than ever, but we're unhappier than ever. And it seems like our culture celebrates angst and agony, not achievement.

Anyone know why?

(I have pinged some of my favorite FR people to see if they have ideas.)

D


22 posted on 01/09/2006 12:47:35 PM PST by daviddennis
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To: Mr. K; ncountylee; DeweyCA
ncountylee:
And the moose have "Leb style" ready to inflict on the infidel.

Mr. K:
what on earth does that mean?

I think ncountylee is referring to what the Lebanese Muslims in Australia said while raping several white Australian girls.

23 posted on 01/09/2006 12:49:16 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: HostileTerritory
If you call your sex "Wal-Mart sex", you have a quality control issue.

And you're likely getting it from China.

24 posted on 01/09/2006 12:50:34 PM PST by KarlInOhio (What is the most obscene gesture to a Democrat? An Iraqi voter showing him a stained finger.)
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To: DeweyCA

Interesting


25 posted on 01/09/2006 12:52:30 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: daviddennis
Alexander Solzhenitsyn says that America suffers from the spiritual impotence that comes from a life of ease.

Back about 1960 when we would pass slums taking our maid home, my parents would remark how happy the poor black children looked playing skip rope and so forth in the street while their son (me) sat around unhappy and complaining. Such was the life of a neurosurgeons son without an extra push.
26 posted on 01/09/2006 12:52:37 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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To: narby
I think blue staters tend to be more self absorbed. They can't be bothered with children. It would require commitment and otherwise disrupt their all about me lives. They satisfy their all about me guilt by becoming active for "social" causes without regard to consequence because it makes them feel better about their selfish self-centeredness.
27 posted on 01/09/2006 12:52:44 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: Paleo Conservative
"I think ncountylee is referring to what the Lebanese Muslims in Australia, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, etc. said while raping several white Australian girls."
28 posted on 01/09/2006 12:54:22 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: DeweyCA

BUMP


29 posted on 01/09/2006 12:56:14 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: DeweyCA

Easier said than done.

Kids are permanent responsibility.

You have to sacrifice everything and devote every moment of most of rest of your life.

Not for me.

I plead guilty to aiding and abetting "demographic death spiral".

Although, I have utmost respect for those who can handle this responsibility.


30 posted on 01/09/2006 12:56:46 PM PST by The_Republican
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To: daviddennis
"I don't want to bring children into an unhappy world,. . ."

YOU create your happiness, the world doesn't do it for you.

31 posted on 01/09/2006 12:56:53 PM PST by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: daviddennis
I don't want to bring children into an unhappy world, a world where happiness is elusive, and grumpy, grim pessimism is the fad of the day.

I don't understand this attitude. Do you actually think there was a time when the world WAS happy ? When happiness wasn't elusive ? When pessimism wasn't around ?

These are, and have always been, the conditions of life. While we try mightily to avoid sorrow and unhappiness, we are never sucessful, nor should we be. Dealing with both joy and sorrow are necessary for a successful life.

If anything, children born today have the greatest chance that has ever existed in world history, for a life free of debilitating disease and suffering.

32 posted on 01/09/2006 12:59:23 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: Common Tator

I'm glad that Jennifer kept her maiden name...If not, I would not have realized that she and I graduated from the same high school years ago! She is an exceptional person, was rather liberal at one time if I recall, but her heart and soul are in the right place! Her keeping her maiden name is the ONLY thing she has in common with Hillary.


33 posted on 01/09/2006 12:59:59 PM PST by t2buckeye
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To: DeweyCA
Actually we are so caught up in our busy, busy lives that there is simply not enough energy for us to do it all.

Life certainly was simpler and more wholesome it earlier times. Howbeit there are many benefits regarding recent times. Antibiotics for one. Vaccinations. The availability of products from the supermarkets allowing us to eat like no others have ever had the chance to eat, everyday, anytime we want it..

For a number of years education was higher and superior ... at all levels than it is today.

Socialism deprives our lives; not enhances the lives of people.

Sex is now becoming the center of most all our entertainment sources. Magazines, movies, TV, drinking, and drugs are an important link to sex, as well. ... and so on ... The basest parts of our society are feed to us daily thought the medias, entertainment, distractions,....UGH!

God is sovereign and we are not living to please Him.
He is at the top. Look up. Act to His standards. Come to know Him. Life will be blessed as a result. He offers us sanctuary. Come into His house.
34 posted on 01/09/2006 1:00:34 PM PST by Countyline
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To: Ruth A.

Did you give him a son by giving your sons a hyphenated name?


35 posted on 01/09/2006 1:01:59 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: George Smiley

Sex: the most expensive recreation on earth.


36 posted on 01/09/2006 1:04:17 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Countyline
Life certainly was simpler and more wholesome it earlier times. Howbeit there are many benefits regarding recent times. Antibiotics for one. Vaccinations. The availability of products from the supermarkets allowing us to eat like no others have ever had the chance to eat, everyday, anytime we want it..

If earlier generations had had "modern" ideas about sexuality prior to those inventions, we wouldn't be here today, because they would have long ago gone through a demographic death spiral. When you figure in all the infant and child mortalilty, women had to have close to their maximum possible fertility just to keep the population steady or increasing slightly.

37 posted on 01/09/2006 1:06:38 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: daviddennis
Man has a spiritual side that our culture is geared to destroy; The god shaped hole in the heart as some have characterized it. Without acknowledging and feeding this side of the human psych enduring happiness is not possible.
38 posted on 01/09/2006 1:07:47 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: narby
Who would want to bring babies into an evil world? Our children would be evil, no one wants that.

While I won’t say you are entirely wrong (some no doubt think that way), I will say that I believe that is not the reason that most people choose not to have more children or any children.

I believe that is more economics than what type of country we live in. I believe most Americans think we have a great country and a great culture.

The cost of raising a child today has become exorbitant. Today the expectations of children and what society expects as the standard of living for a middle class child makes it virtually impossible to raise more than two children.

There is a family in my little town who has recently welcomed their 9 child. When people in the community hear of this the common reaction is disbelief and dismay. Everyone wonders how they can afford to have that many children.

The father has a civil service job and the mother stays at home. The older children help with the younger one. The parents have one car. Until just a few years ago they lived in a smallish three bedroom home.

This couple decided their children did not need everything that society thinks they do. They extras the children work for themselves (what a concept).

I believe that major problem is society’s expectations reinforcing people to desire and expect to have more for themselves and their children.

39 posted on 01/09/2006 1:11:04 PM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: DeweyCA

"Women secrete this hormone during orgasm, and while breast feeding. Oxytocin creates a response of “attach and connect.” ... Oxytocin promotes her connection with her sex partner, who after all, may become the father of her child. All this is nature’s way of keeping the woman bonded to her child and to her child’s father. "


So...if we're having more "recreational sex"...aren't women still having orgasms, releasing this hormone, and becoming attached to their male partners?

Surely, there's more sexual activity today than (say) 100 years ago. So why are we seeing bonding issues now?

Could it be the fault of slack, irresponsible MALES?

(Because all these articles usually try to blame the Pill and thus Women)


40 posted on 01/09/2006 1:14:27 PM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: t2buckeye
Really?

She equates having children in foster care with being a mother. She is a rent-a-mom.. That is not a substitute for parenting. She has zero commitment. The day she wants to stop being a foster care giver she can call Children's Services and they will pick up the kids.

Equating foster care with motherhood is like equating prostitution with being a wife. In both cases the woman is temporarily selling herself for money.

41 posted on 01/09/2006 1:14:29 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: DeweyCA
But the modern world has completely lost sight of the social purposes of sex. We now regard sex as a private recreational activity, with no moral or social significance. Unlimited sexual activity without a live baby resulting is the quintessential modern entitlement.

Many an adolescent wants sexual indulgence without consequences. Now it seems that many adults want it too. Of course, there is no such thing: Even if you do manage to avoid pregnancy, there is an emotional cost to "sex as a private recreational activity."

42 posted on 01/09/2006 1:19:18 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Pontiac
"...This couple decided their children did not need everything that society thinks they do..."

That is certainly the case. What earmarks American children is that they are spoiled. More siblings and less material possessions and presto! --they are less spoiled.

Russia has much less affluence but the same problem. One child is normal for a woman of normal means. Having a second child people begin to wonder about this Mamochka. Having a third child will convince many fellow Russians that the woman is pretty dern crazy.
43 posted on 01/09/2006 1:20:52 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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To: The_Republican
You wrote: "Kids are permanent responsibility. You have to sacrifice everything and devote every moment of most of rest of your life."

This is almost true. (The words "everything" and "every" moment make it an exaggeration.) But don't underestimate the joy and satisfaction of having kids. Mine make me laugh evey day of my life. They are useful, smart, funny and polite. (Homeschooling helps.)

The satisfactions are real, deep, and lasting. I think its safe to say that, for most people at most times in history, much of the the deepest "fulfillment" of their lives came from their kids.

44 posted on 01/09/2006 1:22:42 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Kids. Teach them to cook, and you'll have fabulous snacks for a lifetime.)
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To: daviddennis
We're richer than ever, we have more wonderful tools than ever, but we're unhappier than ever. And it seems like our culture celebrates angst and agony, not achievement.

We must avoid the fallacy of assuming the average applies to every person. While the average may be "unhappier than ever," I, and my family and my circle of friends, can be as happy and fulfilled as we choose to be. Who cares what the culture celebrates? I have never been one to participate in the dominant culture.....

45 posted on 01/09/2006 1:22:57 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: DeweyCA

"In that sense, I am part of the problem of the well-educated, high-income women who can’t bring themselves to replace themselves.

But I was blessed with adoption. And, Divine Providence, acting through San Diego County Child Protective Services, has placed two school-aged foster children in my care."

She seems to think that adopting two foster children has removed her from being part of the demographic slide--but unless someone was going to kill those foster kids, she still hasn't reproduced herself in any way.


46 posted on 01/09/2006 1:24:17 PM PST by wildbill
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To: daviddennis
My take on the overall unhappiness is our societies insistence that everything is for personal gratification. "Every thing is about Me". We have forgotten that true happiness comes from helping and serving others. There is nothing like the happiness and contentment you receive when you help someone in need.
47 posted on 01/09/2006 1:25:02 PM PST by ghostcat
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To: DeweyCA
So let me get this straight: the fact that we're having too much sex is causing us to have too few children, and that's why we're being outbred by the Muslims (whose sexual repression and therefore superior morality, presumably, causes them to breed like rabbits).

Yep.

Pretty much.

But it's not like conservatives are fixated on people's sexual habits, or anything.

48 posted on 01/09/2006 1:27:52 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Blzbba
Could it be the fault of slack, irresponsible MALES?

(Because all these articles usually try to blame the Pill and thus Women)

I really don’t think these articles (at least not this one) are blaming the pill or women.

The choice not to have children is usually a decision of a couple not just the woman.

This article I believe is trying to say that couples have lost sight of the deeper meaning of sex, family and life and that it is likely that this loss of perspective is likely to be the death of our society.

49 posted on 01/09/2006 1:28:34 PM PST by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: Common Tator
She equates having children in foster care with being a mother. She is a rent-a-mom.. That is not a substitute for parenting. She has zero commitment. The day she wants to stop being a foster care giver she can call Children's Services and they will pick up the kids. Equating foster care with motherhood is like equating prostitution with being a wife. In both cases the woman is temporarily selling herself for money.

She also clearly states she has adopted children. Does that count?

SD

50 posted on 01/09/2006 1:30:38 PM PST by SoothingDave
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