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The Nation: Senators Sould Press Alito on Bush v. Gore (Kookfest)
The Nation via Yahoo! News ^ | January 9, 2006 | John Nichols

Posted on 01/09/2006 4:18:38 PM PST by new yorker 77

The Nation -- When the Senate Judiciary Committee begins questioning Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito this week, Americans will again be reminded of the limitations of the confirmation process for presidential picks to serve on the federal bench.

Alito will lie to the committee, intentionally and repeatedly.

In keeping with the standard set by all recent high court nominees, he will treat the hearings, and by extension the American people, who the confirmation process is intended to serve, with utter and complete contempt.

Alito will be asked direct questions and he will claim that he cannot answer them for two reasons.

First, in order to avoid broad questions about his legal philosophy, he will claim that he is not able to comment on cases that might come before the court. This is a deliberate dodge, designed not to protect Alito's ability to judge impartially but to avoid revealing whether his ideas are within the mainstream of constitutional interpretation and judicial responsibility.

Second, despite the fact that his proponents would have the Senate and the American people believe that he is a brilliant man with broad executive branch and judicial experience, Alito will claim that he has not seriously considered fundamental questions of law, politics and public policy. This, too, is a deliberate dodge, designed to prevent an examination of how he approaches issues.

If the recent past offers any indication, Alito's refusal to cooperate with the committee will be extensive. When Chief Justice John Roberts faced the committee during his confirmation hearings last fall, he refused to answer more than 60 questions in a single day.

As members of the Judiciary Committee approach what should be their most solemn duty--since they are being called upon to accept or reject a nominee who could serve on the high court long after they have left politics--senators of both parties should be looking for a way to crack the facade of deceit and disrespect that Alito will erect.

Here's one suggestion for how to do that:

Ask the nominee how he would have ruled in the case of Bush v. Gore. Does he agree that the court was right to intervene, for the first time in history, to stop the counting of the ballots that could have determined the result of a presidential contest? Or does he believe, as University of Virginia professor and Supreme Court scholar A.E. Howard has suggested, "Prudence would call for letting the political process run its course"?

Does Alito believe it is possible to reconcile the high court's intervention in an electotal battle with a strict constructionist reading of the Constitution that says Congress, not the court, is charged with settling disputed contests at the federal level?

Does he believe that Justices Antonin Scalia, whose sons were associated with firms that represented George W. Bush's campaign, and Clarence Thomas, whose wife was working with Bush's transition team, should have recused themselves from the deliberations? Does he worry that the decision to intervene in the case might have damaged the court's reputation as an independent body that stands apart from the partisan politics associated with the executive branch?

Of course, Alito will try to avoid such questions, just as Roberts did when Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wisconsin, made a tepid attempt to raise the issue last year. But Alito has no excuse for refusing to answer.

The case of Bush v. Gore will never come before the court again. And the court itself has ruled that the decision should not be interpreted as setting a precedent. Thus, it is one of the few court decisions that is entirely, and appropriately, open to discussion by a nominee.

And what if Alito claims he hasn't taken the time to consider the case or its issues?

Considering the fact that the case involved the question of who would be the most powerful person on the planet, if Alito claims he wasn't paying attention, there really would not be any question that he is too disengaged to be confirmed to so substantial a position.

John Nichols is the author of Jews For Buchanan (The New Press), an examination of the 2000 recount debacle in Florida and the Supreme Court intervention that settled the dispute for George W. Bush. Jews for Buchanan can be found at indpendent bookstores nationwide and at www.amazon.com

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2000; alito; alitohearings; bushvgore; floridarecount; thenation

1 posted on 01/09/2006 4:18:42 PM PST by new yorker 77
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To: new yorker 77
Ask the nominee how he would have ruled in the case of Bush v. Gore.

They've never gotten over it. And it's driven them around the bend thinking about what might have been.

2 posted on 01/09/2006 4:19:43 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach
This is the root of their insanity.

I posted it because this is the essence of their hatred.

No Bush in 2000 means No Roberts in 2005 and No Alito in 2006.

They can not get over 2000 and thus are enraged by everything resulting from it. Everything is illegitimate to them.
3 posted on 01/09/2006 4:21:59 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

The Left is absolutely obsessed with hatred from 2000.

Has any SCOTUS nominee ever been accused of lying even before he has had a chance to speaK?


4 posted on 01/09/2006 4:22:06 PM PST by digger48
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To: new yorker 77

I wish they would, I'd love to hear Alito say: Florida Dem's pet judges broke the law when they approved selective recounts. What should have happened is that Harris should have ARRESTED them, rather than defer the issue to the SC.


5 posted on 01/09/2006 4:24:57 PM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: new yorker 77
I assume that this was originally written sometime during the Ruth Ginsburg hearings and they have simply substituted the necessary names to make it current.</sarcasm>
6 posted on 01/09/2006 4:25:36 PM PST by carlr
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To: new yorker 77
Where was this mouth breathing a$$hole while Ruth Bader Ginsburg was refusing to answers questions -- "for one reason or another".

Semper Fi

8 posted on 01/09/2006 4:26:21 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: new yorker 77
Ask the nominee how he would have ruled in the case of Bush v. Gore. Does he agree that the court was right to intervene

All the Supreme Court did was FORCE the Florida supreme court to FOLLOW THIER OWN LAW REGARDING RECOUNTS!!!! And since it was a 7-0 decision, what in the world does this question have to do with Alito? Or the price of milk at Wal-mart, for that matter.....

9 posted on 01/09/2006 4:26:37 PM PST by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: dirtbiker
-------------------JERKS-------------------

10 posted on 01/09/2006 4:31:30 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: dirtbiker

Heh...not to mention they only wanted the recounts in heavily democratic counties.


11 posted on 01/09/2006 4:31:43 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: new yorker 77

I would advise the Senators to ask the questions they think are important. If they are not satisfied with the response, their recourse is to vote against confirming the nominee.

Very simple process..


12 posted on 01/09/2006 4:33:12 PM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: Peach

Agreed. If Gore had just acted like a MAN, and conceded the election to Bush without trying to use the court system for an end run to bypass the will of the people and get what he wanted (well, that's worked for them so many times before, right?;) , the last five years would have gone much more smoothly!


13 posted on 01/09/2006 4:33:22 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: new yorker 77

They are insane. Let them rot in their cesspool.


14 posted on 01/09/2006 4:33:32 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: new yorker 77
LOL. It's not too often that I come across such blatantly obvious hysterical rewriting of the future.
15 posted on 01/09/2006 4:34:30 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: new yorker 77
John Nichols is a blithering idiot. The clearest way to prove that is to refer to the Jdiciary Committee hearings on Ruth Bade Ginsburg. She repeatedly refused to answer questions about cases that might come before the Court. And in her long, sorry career as a lawyer and then a judge, that is one thing that she got right.

This fool is claiming that Justices should prejudice themselves before they sit down to decide a case. If that's the kind of Justices he wants -- public bigots -- thank God his side hasn't won any presidential elections in recent memory.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column on Newsbusters.org: "AP Poll Biased: Anti-Bush, Anti-Republican"

16 posted on 01/09/2006 4:34:30 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Hillary! delendum est.)
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To: new yorker 77

An obvious and bare faced slander of a good and honorable man, who is eminently qualified to sit on the bench of the USSC. The democrats are desperate and realize they have nothing more to offer but obstruction, so they're doing their level best to invent something, anything, to embarrass Bush and subvert the will of the American people. The Democrat Party has become a cesspool of partisan corruption, but let's hope the confirmation process has not become so utterly and hopelessly corrupted thereby that this ploy is allowed to succeed.


17 posted on 01/09/2006 4:40:10 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: new yorker 77

The author of this article, John Nichols, is in distress from the 2000 elections. Would you be kind enough to tell him Bush won, and if he can't get over that, to please leave and go to France or Canada, or just leave. Also, tell him to STFU, and go away already, I'm sick of these clowns and their bullsh**. Give me a break.


18 posted on 01/09/2006 4:43:36 PM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: new yorker 77

I pray that the Lord make an end of the communist slandering by what once was called the free press. They deserve to go bankrupt, the sooner the better.


19 posted on 01/09/2006 4:44:18 PM PST by kindred (Lord,thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:)
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To: geezerwheezer
Bush-Winner & Gore-Loser

20 posted on 01/09/2006 4:46:33 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

That is so an election behind. Instead they could ask him if Kerry spent Xmas in Cambodia or if Teresa is named Heinz-Kerry or just Heinz.


21 posted on 01/09/2006 4:48:06 PM PST by rod1
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To: new yorker 77

But, their Favorite Justice O'Connor ruled with the Majority in Bush v. Gore.

Tsk. Can't make up their minds.

I'd rather hear what he thinks about the Florida Courts surpassing the Legislatures of Florida.


22 posted on 01/09/2006 4:50:19 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: new yorker 77

Wow, when are the Dementiacrats going to get over Bush vs. Gore? Let's face it, this is what drives the Democratic reflexive and knee jerk opposition to EVERYTHING Bush does, especially Iraq. If Gore had gone into Iraq, or Clinton, Democrats would be demanding the Noble Peace Prize for them. But because they can't get over Florida 2000, the Dems just attack, attack, attack on everything Bush does because they're so emotionally stunted they can't get over it.

So what is the Nation envisioning with this? A scenario along these lines?

Wacko Dem. Obstructionist Senator: "Judge Alito, would you have allowed Florida law to be thwarted all in an attempt by the Gore campaign to fabricate enough votes to take an election in which they were NEVER ahead in Florida once all the votes were in?"

Judge Alito: "No, the Supreme Court was right to defer to Florida state election law and the principle of equal protection as a means to ending an empasse in the 2000 election."

Wacko Dem. obstructionist Senator: "So you're saying you wouldn't have allowed non-stop recounting and devining of over-votes, under-votes and no-votes to discern they were meant for Gore until enough were found to give Gore the presidency even if it was 5 years later?? You're filibusted buddy!"


23 posted on 01/09/2006 4:51:04 PM PST by MikeA
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To: rod1
Kerry
President Bush
24 posted on 01/09/2006 4:51:59 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

And even if Gore had won, it would STILL be Bush-Winner, Gore-Loser. Five years later, the only thing that's changed is that Gore is actually an uberloser.


25 posted on 01/09/2006 4:53:27 PM PST by MikeA
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To: new yorker 77
Does Alito believe it is possible to reconcile the high court's intervention in an electotal battle with a strict constructionist reading of the Constitution that says Congress, not the court, is charged with settling disputed contests at the federal level?

And I thought it was a state issue as to how Florida was going to vote for its electors. The Federal issue would have been if electors tied, or flipped, or were bribed when voting in the Electoral College. Otherwise, it was a State issue.

-PJ

26 posted on 01/09/2006 4:53:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Frank_2001

Perfect example of why Nixon was far more of a Patriot than Gore will ever be. Nixon legitmately could have contested Kennedy, but he didn't want to poisen the country with the upheavel. Gore had no such consideration, and wasn't going to win unless they could fix enough hanging chads by court order as they did here in WA. Nixon quietly stood back, and came back to win two elections. Gore burst a blood vessel. Nixon brought himself down ultimately, but I feel some sympathy for him because he didn't have the support system G.W.B's had in similiar attacks.


27 posted on 01/09/2006 4:55:21 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: new yorker 77
Ask the nominee how he would have ruled in the case of Bush v. Gore. Does he agree that the court was right to intervene, for the first time in history, to stop the counting of the ballots that could have determined the result of a presidential contest?

That was a 9-0 decision, wasn't it?

These people are loons. (With apologies to the loons with wings)

28 posted on 01/09/2006 4:57:04 PM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: don-o
7-2 on equal rights. 5-4 on the remedy.

-PJ

29 posted on 01/09/2006 4:58:18 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Thanks


30 posted on 01/09/2006 4:59:01 PM PST by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: don-o
I should have said 7-2 that it was an equal rights violation to only count Broward, Dade, and West Palm Beach. The whole state should be recounted. 5-4 on whether a statewide recount could have been done by the certification deadline (which was extended), in order to have the electoral college vote on time.

-PJ

31 posted on 01/09/2006 4:59:59 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Peach

What's truly ROFLMAO hilarious is when a demented leftist like Nichols, writing for the socialist toilet paper rag The Nation, dares to preach about "the mainstream" of US politics and claim that Alito is outside of it. A large majority of Americans support Alito on just about anything, while fringe socialists like Nichols dare to pretend that THEY are concerned with protecting "the mainstream" of US politics.


32 posted on 01/09/2006 5:00:27 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: new yorker 77
Does he believe that Justices Antonin Scalia, whose sons were associated with firms that represented George W. Bush's campaign, and Clarence Thomas, whose wife was working with Bush's transition team, should have recused themselves from the deliberations? Does he worry that the decision to intervene in the case might have damaged the court's reputation as an independent body that stands apart from the partisan politics associated with the executive branch?

How far down the Judicial food chain are we allowed to go? Is The Nation worried that Bob Butterworth, the Florida State Attorney General, was the Florida chairman of the Gore/Lieberman 2000 Committee? At least Katherine Harris was not a part of the Bush election team, it only fell to her to certify the election according to Florida law. They made a big deal out of Harris following Florida law, but had no problem with the highest elected prosecutor heading the Gore team.

-PJ

33 posted on 01/09/2006 5:05:02 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: new yorker 77

That is one powerful photo.


34 posted on 01/09/2006 5:09:18 PM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: new yorker 77

These people are so petty and small minded. It would not surprise me, if the swimmer asks him to reveal whether he wears boxers or briefs.


35 posted on 01/09/2006 5:12:29 PM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: new yorker 77
"Senators Sould Press Alito on Bush v. Gore"

I don't think "Sould" is a word. Doesn't anybody at the Nation poofread anymore?

36 posted on 01/09/2006 5:13:38 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Peach
Ask the nominee how he would have ruled in the case of Bush v. Gore.
They've never gotten over it. And it's driven them around the bend thinking about what might have been.

And for all the libs "loyalty" to Gore, he is a virtual outcast in the halls of Congress. Even the New York Times ignores him.

I'd venture a guess he is nothing more than a talisman to the libs.

37 posted on 01/09/2006 5:23:11 PM PST by khenrich (Hillary is changing her colors. She's a chameleon. No, she's a liberal.)
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To: new yorker 77
Does he believe that Justices Antonin Scalia, whose sons were associated with firms that represented George W. Bush's campaign, and Clarence Thomas, whose wife was working with Bush's transition team, should have recused themselves from the deliberations?

Does he worry that the decision to intervene in the case might have damaged the court's reputation as an independent body that stands apart from the partisan politics associated with the executive branch?

Pluuueeeze! I know this is coming from a commie rag, The Nation, but the placastumus on the bottom of my fish tank could produce a less obviously slanted piece than this guy trying to come across as Daniel Webster.

Damgaged the court's reputation? FDR hammered that nail in years ago. Been anything but an independant body "apart from partisian politics." since.

Their minds are still so convoluted over Bush-Gore. They tried so many loop-holes combined with nasty PR and smearing machines and failed at every turn because of written law and the adults in the country doing the right thing

Thankfully, we prevailed in a winning race and have dismissed the shenannigans of that time as a nuisance and footnote while still remaining aware of the fact that there is a force from within that would subvert a US election given the chance.

But they are like Charles Foster Kane at his deathbed, still hyper-obsessing over an inanimate lost love, as "recount, recount," becomes the whispered tagline fading off in to election eternity.

38 posted on 01/09/2006 5:33:15 PM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: Political Junkie Too

The electoral college ALWAYS "votes in time". When their votes get transmitted to the Congress is another matter. The deadline was two hours and a few minutes after the release of the Supreme Court decision.

The whole state WAS recounted due to the closeness of the election. However, Florida had no provision for a state-wide recount for the loses after the ONE authorized recount was conducted. Nor could the Florida Supreme Court order such a thing, as the Legislature had not put any such law into place before the 2004 election. The Florida Supreme Court got spanked twice by the US Supreme Court for sticking their noses into the Florida Legislature's exclusive business.


dvwjr


39 posted on 01/09/2006 10:31:39 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: dvwjr
Thanks for the clarification. I should have been more precise. The whole state was machine recounted. The Gore team asked for hand recounts of just three counties and the Supreme Court said no, all counties must be hand counted (7-2). They differed on whether the entire state could be hand recounted in time to send an electoral college delegation to Washington (5-4).

As I recall, there was talk of sending two delegations to Washington, as well as letting the House decide whom to accept.

-PJ

40 posted on 01/10/2006 9:13:37 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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