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Louisiana Governor, Senators Go to Holland
Associated Press ^ | Jan 9 | DOUG SIMPSON

Posted on 01/09/2006 6:18:49 PM PST by george76

Gov. Kathleen Blanco left for Holland on Monday to learn how the Dutch created the huge flood-control system that protects a land much farther below sea level than Louisiana.

The trip means the Democratic governor will miss President Bush's visit to New Orleans, scheduled for Thursday...

The governor was among more than 40 government, business and education leaders - including Sens. David Vitter and Mary Landrieu ...

Landrieu said the ambassador told her about that country's flood of 1953, when 1,800 people died.

"He said, `Why don't you all come over and see what we've done since then?'" Landrieu recounted.

Katrina has been blamed for more than 1,300 deaths, the vast majority of them in Louisiana.

Holland recently completed a 50-year program to build dams, seawalls, and surge barriers designed to protect the south of the country against almost any storm.

...others have questioned whether areas of Louisiana 3 to 5 feet below sea level should be rebuilt or returned to marshland.

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: batonrouge; blanco; bus; buses; bush; bush43; citybuses; dutch; dyke; dykes; floodcontrol; g76; holland; kathleenblanco; katrina; la; landrieu; levee; lostbuses; louisiana; marylandrieu; neworleans; presidentbush; rita; schoolbuses; senate; senators; vitter
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1 posted on 01/09/2006 6:18:54 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Pray tell explain how having a bunch of morons visit Holland is going to prevent the next catastrophe?


2 posted on 01/09/2006 6:20:19 PM PST by yevgenie
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To: george76
Who is paying for the trip? Will this impact her chances of being reelected (currently at ZERO)? Would her constituents rather she keep her arse home and fix their CURRENT problems?
3 posted on 01/09/2006 6:20:44 PM PST by msnimje (This space is currently undergoing maintenance.)
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To: george76
Drug test them all as soon as they get off the plane back in the states.
4 posted on 01/09/2006 6:20:57 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: yevgenie

Did Mayor Naglin move his family to Dallas, Texas...buy a home and put his kid(s) in a Dallas school?

"When the going gets tough, the tough get going..."

We taxpayers are sending them on a nice trip.


5 posted on 01/09/2006 6:23:09 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I bet their flight has a "lay over" in Amsterdam on the way back. Got to spend that Katrina money somewhere.


6 posted on 01/09/2006 6:24:53 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: george76
Odd this trip has been planned since November and Blanco's name was never mentioned as going until Bush announced he was coming to LA this Thursday.
7 posted on 01/09/2006 6:25:21 PM PST by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

If they were serious about getting some help on their water problems, I could see them sending for some engineers from the Holland system....

But this little junket will provide nearly as much real value as McCain's trip to Antartica will.

Just another tax-money wasting vacation at the people's expense.


8 posted on 01/09/2006 6:25:59 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: george76

I don't think this trip to Holland will help them learn how to keep the levee board from spending all of the budget on gambling interests instead of shoring up the levee system.


9 posted on 01/09/2006 6:26:12 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: george76

I'd like to float another idea to these incompetent idiots.

10 posted on 01/09/2006 6:26:29 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: TheForceOfOne

Looking for the red lights.

Did they ever find those lost buses?


11 posted on 01/09/2006 6:26:30 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: msnimje
Hopefully the Katrina windfall isn't paying for this. Hopefully it isn't a Congressional junket either.

I can see value in that these folks might be the only ones on the planet that know what their doing when it comes to living in a 'high water zone'. Maybe valuable lessons will be learned.

Louisiana can pay for their implementation back home. (Who am I kidding.)
12 posted on 01/09/2006 6:26:48 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: george76
Pissing into the wind. New Orleans is toast mud. Sinking is sinking is sinking. Ain't gonna stop. Give it up.
13 posted on 01/09/2006 6:27:20 PM PST by stboz
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To: LegendHasIt

Or like Glenn's trip as a pay off by Clinton on the space shuttle.


14 posted on 01/09/2006 6:28:16 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Quick, Louisiana! Change the locks!


15 posted on 01/09/2006 6:29:37 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: K-oneTexas

Blanco: "No, Hans. The biggest dyke we ever had in New Orleans was Rosie O'Donnell. Why do you ask?"


16 posted on 01/09/2006 6:30:08 PM PST by Tall_Texan (TEXAS LONGHORNS - 2005 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!!)
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To: Rockitz

Your tax dollars at work.


17 posted on 01/09/2006 6:30:48 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

With the wealth of knowledge they will bring back, if they start building flood barriers today-they'll be ready in 2056.


18 posted on 01/09/2006 6:33:00 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: george76
They could have got the DVD from the Discovery channel or History one of um, saved a little tax payer money..
19 posted on 01/09/2006 6:35:06 PM PST by boomop1
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To: george76

Blanco says she'll be ready to evacuate N.O. in a couple of weeks. She says the preparations for Katrina are on schedule, all that is standing in the way is finding out where Karl Rove hid the buses. :P


20 posted on 01/09/2006 6:35:36 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Westlander

Sending over some engineers to Holland might have some logic.

Sending a bunch of politicians is stupid.

They could not even find the keys to their own buses.


21 posted on 01/09/2006 6:35:41 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
If it is possible for this group to learn anything they will learn from the Dutch to NOT depend a a dike. The Dutch have a defense in depth strategy to live with the water not against it and redundant dikes and tons of low-lying farm land that can be intentionally flooded. They would dam off the Rigolets for one thing.
22 posted on 01/09/2006 6:36:25 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: msnimje
Kathleen Blanco seems entirely devoid of any ability, ideas, or initiative to solve the current problems plaguing the state of Louisiana. But she has the Truth (liberal-speak for enemy propaganda) on her side; after all, President Bush personally created all of the problems ever in the entire history of her State because he despises poor blacks. Bush crushed the American economy, devastated the spirit of the people of Louisiana, directed Hurricanes Katrina and Rita at her state, failed in his duty to evacuate New Orleans personally, declined to do his duty to build levees, compelled the waters to flood the city, destroyed Louisiana, killed thousands of blacks, created a culture of corruption in Louisiana politics, and continues still to ravage the Pelican State.

All this is True and will become the Truth in the eyes of the American people as the Democrats compel the American people to internalize the Truth that they have decreed upon them. Blanco is impotent so long as Bush (and his comrade, the Incarnation of Satan, Dick Cheney) usurp all their authority. But that will end with the impending impeachment and installation of President-designate Nancy Pelosi.

If these predictions and far worse do not come to pass within the next eighteen months, then Dictator (liberal-speak for "President and commander-in-chief" as opposed to "Whiner and Sex Offender in Chief") Bush will have stolen the election (by deviously deceiving more eligible American voters to vote for him than Democrat deceased who transcend the bonds of death to support the enemy) through his evil (liberal-speak for pro-Christian or good) Lies (liberal-speak for statements conforming to reality). Got that?
23 posted on 01/09/2006 6:41:59 PM PST by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [44 D] comprises fewer than the minority [55 R])
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To: yevgenie

Pray tell explain how having a bunch of morons visit Holland is going to prevent the next catastrophe?



------I agree.


24 posted on 01/09/2006 6:47:14 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: dufekin

The last time I was in Holland my friend took me to see the waterworks-- a very impressive steel barrier that keeps the North sea from flooding a bay. She told me that they have madea lot of money selling the idea worldwide since they built it. As long as the feds control the pursestrings, however, the locals will be at their mercy.


25 posted on 01/09/2006 6:49:52 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: george76

"Need to get away?",,, Southwest.


26 posted on 01/09/2006 6:52:38 PM PST by gramho12
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To: Sunnyflorida

Low lying farm land, sports fields, parks, recreational areas, golf couses...might work below sea level.

But homes, commercial offices, casinos, hotels...with lots of people below sea level is asking for trouble.


27 posted on 01/09/2006 6:54:29 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
"...others have questioned whether areas of Louisiana 3 to 5 feet below sea level should be rebuilt or returned to marshland."

Unless Louisiana is willing to foot the bill...I think we have an answer:
All in favor of marshland raise their hands........

28 posted on 01/09/2006 6:54:56 PM PST by norton
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To: ClaireSolt

Not that it matters, but the lawyers actually control the development of flood protection and everything else in our country. They've blocked plenty of fruitful schemes to improve flood protection in Louisiana while nevertheless perpetuating some environmentally damaging, economically untenable schemes like the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet.


29 posted on 01/09/2006 7:00:21 PM PST by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [44 D] comprises fewer than the minority [55 R])
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To: george76
Hey, why hang out in dark, smelly New Orleans when you can bill your taxpayers for a free trip to the Netherlands and also swing by the Amsterdam red light district.


30 posted on 01/09/2006 7:04:47 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Tall_Texan

'And we use Ellen Degenerate to plug the dyke'.


31 posted on 01/09/2006 7:05:38 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: yevgenie

it's about time somebody stop guessing and satisficing and learn from those who have solved the problem.


32 posted on 01/09/2006 7:11:23 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: yevgenie
Pray tell explain how having a bunch of morons visit Holland is going to prevent the next catastrophe?

If they're not coming back?
33 posted on 01/09/2006 7:15:20 PM PST by Iwo Jima ("An election is an advanced auction of stolen goods.")
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To: george76

When DeLay goes on a trip its called 'corruption'.

When an idiot Democrat Governor goes on a trip, its called factfinding.

Who's paying for this idiot to go see dams?


34 posted on 01/09/2006 7:20:52 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: george76
I KNEW these incompetent corrupt hacks would turn this disaster into a junket somehow.

Isn't this kinda like shutting the barn door after the horses are gone?

Sorry, these are democRATS, I forgot.
35 posted on 01/09/2006 7:27:08 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ("Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: george76

On the plus side, now Blanco and Nagin know how to revive the NO economy with an infusion of coffee shops, brothels and mosques.


36 posted on 01/09/2006 7:31:46 PM PST by Sender (Really. Please. Come on.)
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To: boomop1
They could have got the DVD from the Discovery channel or History one of um, saved a little tax payer money.

Wasn't it the Discovery Channel's series about Super Structures? If we watched the same show it went into quite a bit of detail about the designing, building and engineering of the movable flood control structure. (I don't remember what they called it, I just remember the show.)

As I remember though, they also had large amounts of land which could be flooded even though they had homes built there. They would flood some to save a larger area. I wonder if that would be viable for New Orleans.

37 posted on 01/09/2006 7:36:08 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Native Texan now in SW Ok.)
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To: george76

The Feds should hire one the the best engineers from Holland to work with our engineers. It wouldn't be the first time we went outside our country looking for experts. We'd certainly enjoy their input and benefit from their experience. I suppose we should tell them to leave any workers home 'cause Louisiana has an "overflow" of contractors who are relatives.


38 posted on 01/09/2006 7:59:19 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: SkyPilot

Is she sporting "cheek enhancers" in those shorts or is it just a load?


39 posted on 01/09/2006 8:11:39 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: george76

You are 100% correct.


40 posted on 01/09/2006 8:14:37 PM PST by Sunnyflorida
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To: george76
Gov. Kathleen Blanco left for Holland on Monday to learn how the Dutch created the huge flood-control system that protects a land much farther below sea level than Louisiana.

The Dutch have been doing this for over 400 years. You'd think that there are many books, films, TV shows, and experts who can explain how they did it. There are probalbly many school science-fair diaramas to explain it to the LA leaders.

Are we sure that they didn't travel there for "smokes" since the Dutch are rethinking their liberal "coffee shop" laws? Or maybe she's looking for some European chatchke's for her new marble countertops?

-PJ

41 posted on 01/09/2006 8:20:46 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: george76

I thought Blanco went over to help stick a finger in a dyke.


42 posted on 01/09/2006 8:38:15 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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43 posted on 01/09/2006 8:44:47 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Tall_Texan
Blanco: "No, Hans. The biggest dyke we ever had in New Orleans was Rosie O'Donnell. Why do you ask?"

I don't know... The Hildabeaste may be bigger than O'Donnell.

44 posted on 01/09/2006 9:10:49 PM PST by upchuck (Article posts of just one or two sentences do not preserve the quality of FR. Lazy FReepers be gone!)
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To: upchuck

The Louisiana politicians did receive previous flood control advice from the Dutch. Unfortunately, the politicians translated "the little boy sticks his finger in the dyke" as "stick your thumb in your a$#." To their credit, they did follow the mistranslated advice.


45 posted on 01/09/2006 9:17:41 PM PST by Steve_Stifler
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To: yevgenie

They have to go to Holland to find that the difference is that Holland isn't in Hurricane Alley.


46 posted on 01/09/2006 9:23:58 PM PST by scannell
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To: scannell

THAT is the oft-ignored factor! Holland isn't faced with the likelhood of one or more hurricanes every year.
AND- the flood protection works in Holland because it was built, and is maintained by ,the Dutch-not the conniving, good-enough, political dynasty types that run New Orleans.

For Dutch ideas to work here you'd have to have the Dutch design, build AND maintain the system free of political control. Not gonna happen in a city where the battle cry now is ' this is OUR city'. Meaning- no outsiders are going to run things! Heaven forbid that should happen! In a city where mile after mile of Interstate guard rails are installed BACKWARD, there is NO- I repeat- absolutely NO hope that locals can build and run a system like Hollands.
Dutch ingenuity and efficiency and 'les incompetents' cannot co-exist.


47 posted on 01/09/2006 10:29:13 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Yeah, isn't it the Mayor of Lousiana that advanced the Farakahan idea that Bush bomed the levies? Now that the water has receded I didn't hear a recant let alone an apology from either.


48 posted on 01/10/2006 9:47:47 AM PST by scannell
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To: ClearBlueSky

and yes, when they design dikes and levies, it has to be able to hold back the water, not a class 5 Hurricane.


49 posted on 01/10/2006 9:49:12 AM PST by scannell
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To: dufekin

What?


50 posted on 01/10/2006 5:59:45 PM PST by Saints fan
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