Posted on 01/10/2006 1:49:22 AM PST by nickcarraway
As for me though, I don't "tell her" anything - I just silently don't open doors for women, nor do I stand up for them on the bus, or engage in any other number of chivalrous behaviours.
Like you said, women wanted "equality". And now, they've got it. In spades. How happy they must be!
And she's wasted the prime of her child bearing years chasing a 'career' that has no probable value to a man who wants to get married anyway. Women have a shelf life
If this is not women bashing, objectifying and hatred, then what is it?
I think it's nasty stereotypes that make the men look overseas in the first place.
And I wouldn't overstate this trend. While many of us know some anecdotal example of men seeking overseas females, they are only a statistical few, and the ones I know are men who have a hard time getting a woman here to pay attention to them, or want a woman that is a Golden Retriever with less body hair. I'd be curious to see the long term success they have in getting it and having these marriages work. I peripherally only know one such man, and he's on his fourth.
"Increasingly American men marry women from a traditional society such as Japan, Korea or Saudi Arabia. Perhaps there is a message there."
Yes.... and the message is that some men are in for a big honkin' surprise when they see how fast these women adjust to American life. ;-D
It's.... pointing out the blindingly obvious. Women have a "shelf life", in that their marriageability declines sharply after ~35 or so - how many womens' first marriages occur when they're over the age of 35?
See my post #53 for further elaboration.
LOL!
Like the Rumanian chick I met the other day....married for her green card and now is divorced and on the prowl. Scary chick....I liked her >:>
Huh - If I'm holding a door and someone's coming, I hold it open to be polite, whether it's a man or a woman.
I guess if you want to castigate basic male biology as "women bashing" and "hatred," you can, but it's not going to accomplish much. Feminist rhetoric won't change male biology.
But that's the problem, looking overseas for a wife imposes its own frictional costs, things like languages and expense. In other words, men have to be forced to look overseas.
And I wouldn't overstate this trend. While many of us know some anecdotal example of men seeking overseas females, they are only a statistical few
The proportion of American-foreign marriages is dwarfed by purely domestic marriages, yes. What is important though, is the trend - overall marriage rates are dropping in the US (in most of the Anglosphere, actually), but the rates of American-foreign marriages are rising (i.e. the rate of purely-domestic marriages is falling even faster, and being propped up by the increasing rate of American-foreign marriages).
My wife feels the need to point out (via my post) that men are most attractive in their 20's and 30's as well. She says that any 20 year old claims that she's dating a 40 year old for any reason other than security is a liar.
I would disagree. I would say that 90% of those who are looking overseas are social misfits who failed miserably in the American market. The vast majority are seeking out of desperation because American women have rejected them in the dating market.
What an idiot I must be. I open doors for everyone. Men, women, children, it doesn't matter. I'll stop to help anyone with a flat as well, regardless of gender or age.
Physically, that's probably true. But I think women prioritize physical appearance a bit lower than men do, when they decide what they think is "attractive" about a potential mate.
I'll agree that relationships in this country have never been harder to make last for the long haul. I'll also agree that there are a lot of people that are really screwed up in the head about what makes them work. I just don't agree that men who are unwilling to learn how to make relationships work with women in this country will have any long term success in finding a woman overseas either. Eventually reality sets in and even the foreign bride talks out of turn and he has to deal with it. "Those who have used the mail-order bride route to find a mate have control in mind more than a loving, enduring relationship." (THE "MAIL-ORDER BRIDE" INDUSTRY AND ITS IMPACT ON U.S. IMMIGRATION - INS Reports and Studies
On the positive side, I think there's a lot of great men, and great women in this country. We're in a state of flux now, and it is true that people of both genders fail to keep committments as well as our parents did, and our parents failed more often than their parents. Perhaps the natural byproduct of freedom for all, men and women, in this country is that we will have to learn better how to relate to a spouse that is truely free. We better, because I don't predict a return to the days of old.
Very true.
In America's case, the feminist tsunami has caused women to remove THEMSELVES from the naturally ordained role of perpetuating the population.
The same argument is made against allowing women into military combat. A woman is at least 100 times more "valuable" than a man is in the business of re-populating a society in case of war.
But that is another issue.
I was trying to be more diplomatic, but I can agree from my own experience with such arrangements.
Having had great success with the opposite sex, I can say categorically that I haven't the slightest idea what women look for. I never lacked for dates, while good friends who I considered not only better looking, but better people couldn't grab a woman's attention with lighter fluid and matches.
These are some of the sorts of guys who look overseas for a wife.
"Feminists don't have relationships with men, only other feminists."
I don't buy even that much. A feminist has come to common terms with nothing other than an unrealistic set of expectations, and an overdeveloped appreciation of their own capabilities.
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