Posted on 01/10/2006 8:25:04 PM PST by Leo Carpathian
I believe that this is correct as long you were not communist on “KGB level”, some exceptions probably happened but it was not common thing.
==4. The communist party didn't kill you should you fail to provide that material support.
They didn’t wanted any material support from their members. They even have some privileges. But anyway members and especially non-members of the communist party were robbed in the very beginning because they never achieved these things that they could achieve, in all kind of aspects including material.
I reapeat once again, IT WAS NOT ANY REASON TO JOIN TO THE COMMUNIST PARTY.
Would there be any negative consequences if a member of the Communist Party refused to go along with a party directive? For instance, let's say the Communists wanted you to hold a sign at a 'spontaneous' demonstration at your place of work (or elsewhere) and you refused to show up. Would they let it slide, kick you out, or worse?
Communist party in Poland was the strongest in 1980 when they had 3092k members (almost 12,5 % of the adults), in other periods even less. So it is obvious that it was not any obligation.
OK, next question. At what point do you have to start taking direct orders? Feel free to list the obvious (like the KGB). Thanks--GGG
Mostly it was not that you have some orders from them. I’m not talking about KGB type members. Your job was to spy your colleges from work, neighbors and even your family. Nothing special just listen what they are talking about. That is why many Poles, especially this “communist generation” have special skill, to discuss quietly in the public places even now because this is already natural for them.
I'm sure he'd have joined up with the nazis, baathists, islamists, etc. or any other gang that threatened him. This cowardly appeasement is at the root of the "RussiaFirsters" desperation to slavishly demand capitulation to Russian interests
==This cowardly appeasement is at the root of the "RussiaFirsters" desperation to slavishly demand capitulation to Russian interests.
What's to be cowardly about? What's to appease? They don't even think Russia is dangerous, let alone our enemy.
"The communist party was not the mafia"
Right - the mafia are pikers compared to the Kremlin which liquidated 100 million of its enemies - thats alot of hitmen.
Try dictators for one.
Secondly yes communism is aweful, as are actual communists, communist party members however do not always a communist make.
Good thing that the communists are less than 5% of Russia's population now.
I've been to Russia numerous times, they are not particuraly dangerous, they are far freer in many respects, and they are quite an ally in many things like the war on terror, and keeping oil prices low. That isn't to say they always agree with us (they are not surfs and we are not their Lords) but they are our ally.
You never defend capitalist ideas in Ukraine you only defend Socialist ones.
You never defend pro-captialist or pro-religion NGOs you defend ones who give money to abortion clinics and pro abortion candidates.
You never defend the true Orthodox church in Ukraine. Instead you propagandize for a church that has less than a 6% following, and defend a HERETICAL church founded by an DEFROCKED PRIEST who USED TO BE A KGB AGENT.
He's EU all the time, what do you expect?
Read more and you'll find GREAT difference between Stalin and Trotsky, Lenin and other scam...
Are you really so naive? If that so, you should be happy to get ticket to a pioneer camp Artek! May be you can die in the dark about communism, communists, their chieftains and many other things soiling the banner of the Great October Revolution... Too little hopes that you can understand role the Communist party as the gang in EVERY COUNTRY WHERE THIS PLAGUE WAS!
The rest people had common sense but you said that ready to join communist party with aim to get goot job, accomodation, power and so on.. In such case you are deliberate to join communist party.
==Read more and you'll find GREAT difference between Stalin and Trotsky, Lenin and other scam...
OK, I'll bite. What's the "GREAT" difference between Stalin and Trotsky, Lenin and other scum(?)...
I find them all scum. Stalin's only virtue (if you can call it that) was to turn his guns against his fellow Communists, who, like Stalin, all had it coming in spades. Trotsky, as far as I can tell, at least started to realize the error of his ways, and probably would have helped Western intelligence immensely, but was prevented from doing so by Stalin's assassins. But make no mistake, all of the people you listed were pure evil and deserved to be captured, tried in front of the whole world, and then publicly executed.
The orthodox churches in Kieve existed far before Moscow even existed.
By what right does the KGB Moscow Church have the right to declare heresy.
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