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Israel rejects Pat Robertson funding-Tourism min. says evangelist's comments crossed the line
Jerusalem Post ^ | 1-11-06 | AVI KRAWITZ

Posted on 01/11/2006 5:39:55 AM PST by SJackson

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To: SJackson
"I doubt this will have much long term impact, and won't be surprised if it's patched up. I can understand Israel's reaction though."

You didn't get the point.

21 posted on 01/11/2006 7:42:47 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Matchett-PI
You didn't get the point.

I think I did, you're referring to Pat arrogantly abrogating God's powers. I agree with you, I just don't think there'll be any long term impact on tourism, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Pat patch things up. I'd cut him a little slack in that this is a religious topic addressed in his role as a cleric, at least as I understand the circumstances.

23 posted on 01/11/2006 7:52:31 AM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: baal
Who of us on this planet are qualified to say one way or the other.

We're not.

24 posted on 01/11/2006 7:53:27 AM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: dennisw
Pat Robertson was also right when he said Hugo Chavez should be plugged. Our old time CIA would have liquidated him years ago. Instead we sit on our hands while the ChiComs move in for the kill

Different circumstance, also a stupid statement. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the executive order barring assassinations rescinded. And should Chavez meet an untimely accident, I wouldn't mourn for the people of Venezeula.

25 posted on 01/11/2006 7:55:12 AM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: SJackson
"I think I did,.."

No you didn't... and from the looks of it, you may never get it. (And please don't ask me to clarify - all the clarification you need is in what I have already posted.)

26 posted on 01/11/2006 7:56:32 AM PST by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: dennisw
Any Christian who loves Israel is a friend of mine and that includes Pat Robertson. Pat and other righteous Christians sent hundreds of tour groups to Israel during the recent suicide bombing intifada while liberal Jews chickened out. Is this minister of Israel tourism also a liberal atheist Jew?

He's not telling Christian's not to come, nor changing the project, which alternate financing is in place for. Hirsh is a Likud MK, so I doubt he's a liberal.

27 posted on 01/11/2006 7:56:39 AM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: dennisw

I'm with you.


28 posted on 01/11/2006 7:59:55 AM PST by Sabramerican (Directions to Train Boxcars: Smola, Smola, Kadima.)
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To: SJackson

I disagree with what Pat Robertson said about Ariel Sharon but I like it when he's outspoken. Pat says very mild stuff compared to what the the leader of Iran says and other psycho-Mullahs say


29 posted on 01/11/2006 8:02:17 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: SJackson

Hirsh followed Sharon to Kadima immediately.

I don't need to know if anyone in Kadima is a former Liberal or a Rightist, they are all unprincipled opportunists.


30 posted on 01/11/2006 8:02:41 AM PST by Sabramerican (Directions to Train Boxcars: Smola, Smola, Kadima.)
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To: adam_az

It was more of a shot at Pat than at weed. I hope I didn't offend, good sir! (BTW, my name's a Melville reference.)


31 posted on 01/11/2006 8:03:47 AM PST by billybudd
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To: monday
They've given them back Gaza and now all the attacks and HOMICIDE bombings have stopped, right?

Those poor mooselimbs only want peace. They only wanted peace when they attacked Israel and lost Gaza. They are so mis-understood!

32 posted on 01/11/2006 8:08:17 AM PST by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: SJackson

Thanks, Sue. I was concerned that the media had again succeeded in driving events, rather than reporting them. My other observation is the "strange bedfellows" relationship between many FReepers and the media they otherwise abhor. My take on Robertson's comments is that he intended to interpret world events in the light of God's providential dealing in world events. This is not to say that I agree or disagree with his theology (time will tell) or his wisdom in speaking on national tv in a way that many can and do misunderstand.


33 posted on 01/11/2006 8:35:18 AM PST by Nanny7
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To: Sabramerican

"Facts on the ground" is a common Mideast phrase and perfectly describes the righteous Christians who during Intifada#2 visited Israel for Holy Land Tours while liberal Jews carped, complained and stayed in America. Pat Robertson and other nice Christian leaders led and sponsored these group tours when the suicide bombings were the worst.

I could care less about Christian end times scenarios and how Israel fits in. They have their beliefs and I have my Jewish beliefs. What I care about is Israel and Pat Robertson and other valiant Christians are supporters in a cold cold world.


34 posted on 01/11/2006 8:40:33 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: billybudd

Well God has different plans for different folks, but I see your point.


35 posted on 01/11/2006 8:56:48 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: dennisw

I agree.


36 posted on 01/11/2006 9:42:16 AM PST by dervish (prayers for PM Sharon)
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To: SJackson

"I can understand Israel's reaction though."

I can't.

The Bush Administration condemned Robertson's words and then went on to pressure Olmert into allowing campaigning in Jerusalem for the Palistinian elections, against PM Sharon's position. So who harmed Israel and PM Sharon more in this hour of need?

Words are easy.

Robertson's project would bring tangible benefits to Israel. This is a dumb move.


37 posted on 01/11/2006 9:43:40 AM PST by dervish (prayers for PM Sharon)
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To: dervish

The Bush administration has nothing to do with it. From an Israeli perspective I wouldn't solicit their advice about the security of Israel. As to this project, it will go on.


38 posted on 01/11/2006 10:45:16 AM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: dennisw; Sabramerican
"We reconsidered the deal and realized that we cannot sign with Robertson or anyone who supports his views."

Such tough standards for Pat Robertson.

I only wish the same standards were applied to the PA and the 'palestinians'.

Why, right now Israel is making deals with and giving away land to people who piss on our holy sites and who's only purpose is the destruction of Israel.

39 posted on 01/11/2006 10:58:22 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Ironic. I know.

Kadima. Into the abyss.


40 posted on 01/11/2006 11:31:05 AM PST by Sabramerican (Directions to Train Boxcars: Smola, Smola, Kadima.)
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