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Area Men Face 'Brokeback Mountain' (Madison, WI)
Madison.com ^ | January 11, 2006 | Samara Kalk Derby

Posted on 01/11/2006 10:43:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

Curtis Wittwer was somewhat reluctant to see a film about two cowboys in love.

The 64-year-old retired state worker, who saw "Brokeback Mountain" with his girlfriend Tuesday night, said he doesn't ordinarily seek out gay-themed movies.

Still, he counted five reasons for seeing the film: It's a western, it's directed by Ang Lee, the screenplay is co-written by Larry McMurtry and it's been getting rave reviews. Plus, he was egged on after reading a New York Times piece by Larry David in which the comedian satirically complains that watching the movie could turn him gay.

"It was just a beautiful movie. You could feel the pain at the end," said Wittwer.

There was only one man at the nearly sold-out 6:30 p.m. showing Tuesday at Westgate Art Cinema who admitted he was uncomfortable seeing the movie. The man was there with four female colleagues, most of whom giggled uncontrollably when he declined to be interviewed about his feelings.

Not one man at the 7 p.m. showing admitted to being uncomfortable with the subject matter.

In fact, the majority of the men seeing "Brokeback Mountain" said they were the ones who talked their wives or girlfriends into going to the movie.

Longtime state Sen. Fred Risser, D-Madison, saw the movie Tuesday with his wife Nancy. They had both wanted to see it, but it was Risser's spur-of-the-moment idea.

"We talked about the fact that some areas had refused to show the picture. We couldn't understand why," Risser said. "Those people who are uncomfortable with a movie like that, they shouldn't go. I don't go to war movies. I don't particularly enjoy those."

Eric Bruger, 22, a UW-Madison bacteriology student, admitted "Brokeback Mountain" wouldn't have been his first choice of movies to see during winter break. He went because his girlfriend is a fan of stars Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal.

Bruger said he overcame any unease he might have had before entering the theater.

"It's not very commonly seen. Maybe it's seen as threatening a societal norm," he said before the movie. "Then I thought about it and realized, well, it's not really a very big deal."

Afterward, Bruger called it a "pretty good movie" and "tastefully done."

"There was a lot more to it than the impression I was given coming in to it," he said.

Marshall Collins, 20, who works at the theater and attends Madison Media Institute, said he only saw the film because of the hype.

Collins said he knows that his is the minority view, but he was disappointed by the film's ending, he said.

"It was too open. Like they were going to make a miniseries out of it. 'Tune in Sunday on CBS...' "

Also, he wasn't as emotional afterward as other movie-goers.

"Did you see 'Hotel Rwanda?' That's why people cry. Did you see 'Schindler's List'? That's why people cry.'" Collins said.

Rich Hogle, who was there with his wife and two sons, admitted before the movie that he had to be talked into going. He usually prefers action movies or dramas, he said.

Afterward, Hogle called it a "thought-provoking movie" that was slightly different than he expected. His son Chuck, meanwhile, was seeing the film for the second time, having already caught it in New York, on his way home from Ithaca College.

"It is really daring and unique," he said. "It managed to be sentimental and moving without being saccharine and sappy."

His brother Joe, a sophomore at Memorial High School, said he needed a little convincing to see the movie.

"I've never liked any movies of that genre before. But it was good," he said.

That a movie about gay cowboys would find a receptive audience in Madison is hardly surprising, noted a local conservative blogger who goes by the pen name Dennis York.

He likened it to "seeing 'Passion of the Christ' in Vatican City."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: barf; fudgepackmountain; hollyweird; homos; homosexualagenda; inthecloset; pudding; threebagger
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From what I see in this article, FIVE men saw this film on the evening this reporter did her interviews.

That's considered a "majority" in Liberal Land! *Rolleyes*

1 posted on 01/11/2006 10:43:28 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Probably better to face it than have your back to it.


2 posted on 01/11/2006 10:44:16 AM PST by rattrap
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I sense a high reading on the BS meter.


3 posted on 01/11/2006 10:44:51 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You could feel the pain at the end

I bet I know what scene he was referring to. LOL!

4 posted on 01/11/2006 10:45:14 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: rattrap

Something about this article just ain't right.


5 posted on 01/11/2006 10:46:42 AM PST by DesignerChick
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Curtis Wittwer was somewhat reluctant to see a film about two cowboys in love. The 64-year-old retired state worker, who saw "Brokeback Mountain" with his girlfriend Tuesday night, said he doesn't ordinarily seek out gay-themed movies. Still, he counted five reasons for seeing the film: It's a western, it's directed by Ang Lee, the screenplay is co-written by Larry McMurtry and it's been getting rave reviews. Plus, he was egged on after reading a New York Times piece by Larry David in which the comedian satirically complains that watching the movie could turn him gay.

"It was just a beautiful movie. You could feel the pain at the end," said Wittwer.


6 posted on 01/11/2006 10:47:10 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Semper Paratus

Yes, and which end, too!


7 posted on 01/11/2006 10:47:20 AM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Where's the triple-bag barf alert!


8 posted on 01/11/2006 10:47:20 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"It was too open. Like they were going to make a miniseries out of it. 'Tune in Sunday on CBS...' "

Oh but they will.


9 posted on 01/11/2006 10:47:21 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Five men took their 'beards' to see a gay sheepherder movie. Wow. There would higher attendance from Al Franken's makeup crew.


10 posted on 01/11/2006 10:47:25 AM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: rattrap
In fact, the majority of the men seeing "Brokeback Mountain" said they were the ones who talked their wives or girlfriends into going to the movie.

Men????????? (sensative metrosexual types perhaps)
11 posted on 01/11/2006 10:48:00 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
.....You could feel the pain at the end," said Wittwer.

I bet.........

12 posted on 01/11/2006 10:48:14 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
His son Chuck, meanwhile, was seeing the film for the second time, having already caught it in New York, on his way home from Ithaca College.

All you need to know.

13 posted on 01/11/2006 10:48:38 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Not gay cowboys, gay sheepherders!

"...where men are men and sheep are ..... ok with that..."


14 posted on 01/11/2006 10:49:10 AM PST by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! ("On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" by Dave Grossman))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"His son Chuck, meanwhile, was seeing the film for the second time,
having already caught it in New York, on his way home from Ithaca College."

So Ithaca really is the "city of evil". I think that's how a frequent
poster terms it.


15 posted on 01/11/2006 10:49:24 AM PST by VOA
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"His son Chuck, meanwhile, was seeing the film for the second time,
having already caught it in New York, on his way home from Ithaca College."

So Ithaca really is the "city of evil". I think that's how a frequent
poster terms it.


16 posted on 01/11/2006 10:49:24 AM PST by VOA
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I won't be seeing Brokebutt Mountain, so I won't be giving a review.
17 posted on 01/11/2006 10:50:04 AM PST by Protagoras (If jumping to conclusions was an Olympic event, FR would be the training facility.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

"It was just a beautiful movie. You could feel the pain at the end," said Wittwer.


Yes.
I'm sure they could.


18 posted on 01/11/2006 10:50:13 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
He likened it to "seeing 'Passion of the Christ' in Vatican City."

Speechless.
19 posted on 01/11/2006 10:50:27 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm not going to see this movie cuz I hate weepy love stories...no matter who they are about.


20 posted on 01/11/2006 10:50:54 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"I've never liked any movies of that genre before. But it was good," he said.

Yeah, most homosexual cowboy movies aren't that good.

21 posted on 01/11/2006 10:51:40 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
He likened it to "seeing 'Passion of the Christ' in Vatican City."

Funniest and most truthful statement anyone made in the entire article.

22 posted on 01/11/2006 10:51:46 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: GSWarrior
I'm not going to see this movie cuz I hate weepy love stories...no matter who they are about.

Does the pain in the butt make them weep?

23 posted on 01/11/2006 10:52:12 AM PST by Protagoras (If jumping to conclusions was an Olympic event, FR would be the training facility.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am considering going. I want to see how many others REALLY go, and I actually want to see if I can review the movie, as a MOVIE, I'd even give a Freeper review. I like alot of Ang Lee's stuff...


24 posted on 01/11/2006 10:52:44 AM PST by Paradox (What "tax cuts for the rich". They are paying more taxes now than ever!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"It's a western"

Not exactly my definition of a western. Not exactly like Open Range, Silverado, etc.

"it's directed by Ang Lee"

Okay. So what.

"screenplay is co-written by Larry McMurtry"

Okay. Should I care?

"it's been getting rave reviews"

Yeah, right. And the people giving it "rave" reviews are not not biased, nor would they be pushing the gay agenda. /sarc
25 posted on 01/11/2006 10:53:53 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

can you believe the attention this stupid movie is getting? and all this free publicity (on purpose)?


If you are a guy and you see this movie - you are gay. You can't even use the excuse that 'your girlfreind made you go' because if she does you are too gay to have a girlfreind.


26 posted on 01/11/2006 10:54:33 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
IMHO, Buttcrack Mountin' is cultural poison designed to call ALL male friendships, fishing trips, hunting trips, sports events, camping trips, etc. into question.

And that's the reason why the national and local "hate America" media are flogging it so desperately.
27 posted on 01/11/2006 10:54:49 AM PST by Antoninus (Jesus Christ is Lord. Alleluia!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Everyone want to take a break from this nancyboy crap?

Go see Memoirs of a Geisha. Regardless of the controversies over historical accuracy, ethnic casting or faithfulness to the book, it's the most beautiful film I've seen in years.

I'll see it again, just to watch it and not worry about the plot or dialogue. It's just stunning to look at.

28 posted on 01/11/2006 10:55:13 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

And the definition of "men" is a little different in Madison.


29 posted on 01/11/2006 10:56:34 AM PST by pissant
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

>>>There was only one man at the nearly sold-out

I don't believe this. What does this lunatic consider 'nearly sold out' with five men making a majority. What, did they show this in closet?

No pun intended.


30 posted on 01/11/2006 10:56:59 AM PST by sandbar (when)
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To: GSWarrior

How about two families absolutely destroyed by infidelity?

Too much of a chick flick... but with a couple of guys.

I guess if you like to watch train wrecks, with lots of death, destruction, and suffering, you might enjoy the movie.


31 posted on 01/11/2006 10:57:51 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
is this him...???

32 posted on 01/11/2006 10:58:21 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
From what I see in this article, FIVE men saw this film on the evening this reporter did her interviews.

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You read it wrong. Only five men admitted to being uncomfortable...big difference.

From the article: "There was only one man at the nearly sold-out 6:30 p.m. showing Tuesday at Westgate Art Cinema who admitted he was uncomfortable seeing the movie."

33 posted on 01/11/2006 10:58:53 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Gay Cowboys eating pudding. I guess Cartman is psychic.

I've been trying (ie. begging) Mrs. Exile to come see Bloodrayne with me. I know it's total crap and a bomb, but it's got a hot half vampire chick wearing a leather outfit and beating the tar out of everything that moves. Now that's what I call entertainment.

Oh, and anything with Godzilla in it is pretty entertaining too.


34 posted on 01/11/2006 10:59:28 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: dhs12345

Nah...I'd rather watch Showboat.
:)


35 posted on 01/11/2006 10:59:48 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
In fact, the majority of the men seeing "Brokeback Mountain" said they were the ones who talked their wives or girlfriends into going to the movie.

In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning and bears still haven't mastered the art of indoor plumbing.

36 posted on 01/11/2006 11:00:05 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: SJSAMPLE
"It was just a beautiful movie. You could feel the pain at the end," said Wittwer. Yes. I'm sure they could.

================================================

Ever thibk this guy knew exactly what he was saying and guessed the reporter would miss his irony?

37 posted on 01/11/2006 11:00:26 AM PST by wtc911 (see my profile for how to contribute to a pentagon heroes fund)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Buttcrack mountain


38 posted on 01/11/2006 11:00:49 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
You could feel the pain at the end

[ TRELAINE ] This is too easy!! [ /TRELAINE ]

39 posted on 01/11/2006 11:01:06 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
How is Bruce back Mountin' as a film, somebody above axed? As good as Deep Throat is as a film. End of review.
40 posted on 01/11/2006 11:01:24 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Mr. K

"If you are a guy and you see this movie - you are gay. "

I doubt that. I saw it, out of curiosity and out of the fact that I always see all the Oscar-nominated movies. I'm still not gay...just ask my wife.

Seeing this movie will not contaminate anyone. It won't change anyone from heterosexual to gay. It's just a movie.


41 posted on 01/11/2006 11:03:17 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: SJSAMPLE
You could feel the pain in the end...

I'm sure that someone in movie got bored.

42 posted on 01/11/2006 11:05:48 AM PST by Bon mots
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"If you are a guy and you see this movie - you are gay. "

I doubt that. I saw it, out of curiosity and out of the fact that I always see all the Oscar-nominated movies. I'm still not gay...just ask my wife.

Seeing this movie will not contaminate anyone. It won't change anyone from heterosexual to gay. It's just a movie.

Okay. So you're bi. You can tell us. We won't tell...
;-)

43 posted on 01/11/2006 11:07:27 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Released in US December 9, 2005 (limited)
Total US Gross $23,051,190
Production Budget $13,000,000

This makes me so mad. It is making more and more money off the controversy. I wish at the beginning that nobody would have talked about it. The mass media event would have sold some tickets, but not this many. People are going to it because their are people verbally voicing desseent. Everyone should have just ignored this movie. It would have gone away by now.


44 posted on 01/11/2006 11:09:48 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Bon mots

LOL!


45 posted on 01/11/2006 11:12:27 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Bon mots
"It won't change anyone from heterosexual to gay. It's just a movie."

That's what you think. I saw the movie with my girlfriend and left the theatre with this guy. I haven't looked back since. [\s]


46 posted on 01/11/2006 11:12:47 AM PST by jdm (WWW-WEBMASTER (My grandfather swears it's his email address))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sixth reason he watched it: He likes to dress in his wife's underwear and pretend he is a NYC hooker.


47 posted on 01/11/2006 11:13:45 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
I sense a high reading on the BS meter.

I do too, especially after reading this quote by a "random guy":

Still, he counted five reasons for seeing the film: It's a western, it's directed by Ang Lee, the screenplay is co-written by Larry McMurtry and it's been getting rave reviews.

48 posted on 01/11/2006 11:14:36 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: MineralMan

Err, if a picture of bacon shows up, that wasn't supposed to happen!


49 posted on 01/11/2006 11:14:40 AM PST by jdm (WWW-WEBMASTER (My grandfather swears it's his email address))
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To: napscoordinator

"Everyone should have just ignored this movie. It would have gone away by now.
"

Not really. Ang Lee is a pretty good filmaker, generally. Lots of people would go to any movie he made.

It didn't really need the publicity. It's a small movie, aimed at a particular demographic, which includes movie buffs, as well as gays.

I don't see movies based on publicity, for the most part. I go to ones I want to see, or ones which have been reviewed well as films.

Believe me, this movie is tame, compared to a lot of other films where homosexuality is part of the movie.


50 posted on 01/11/2006 11:15:07 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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