Posted on 01/11/2006 10:58:18 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
OVID NY— Two teenagers were charged Tuesday after allegedly having a rifle in the parking lot of South Seneca Central Junior/Senior High School at 7263 Main St.
District Superintendent Janie Nusser said a student came on campus with a rifle in her car to give it to the rifle’s owner who was another student. She said they made the transfer in the school parking lot in violation of board policy and state law.
“I think when students saw the rifle, they were concerned and reported it to adults and we immediately called law enforcement,” Nusser said.
“I think what heightened people’s concerns was the student that was the owner of the gun had been involved in an argument with another student just prior to the transfer. At this time in the investigation, we do not see a connection between the two incidents.”
Nusser said the incident happened at the end of the school day and reports of a lockdown are untrue.
“It’s an ongoing investigation, so for me to give you much information would be premature,” she said.
Nusser would not name the students, but Seneca County sheriff’s deputies charged Jeffrey R. Warne, 17, of 7904 Route 89, Interlaken, and Jessica L. Prindle-Ike, 16, of 8494 Mill St., Lodi, with fourth-degree criminal possession of a weapon.
Deputies said the .22-caliber rifle was not pointed at anyone during the incident.
The teens were ticketed and are to appear Jan. 30 in Ovid Town Court.
BLL: simply hysteria.
that be a felony in NY (to my recollection)
I saw a taxidermy teacher do it 25 yrs ago - he was crapping his pants THEN
Stupid move on the kids part, but the law is the law, and in this case I agree with the school for calling LE and reporting it.
"So in your world the rights and responsibilities of todays youth being limited by the actions of gang bangers is common sense?
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Use your head, man. These kids are all at school, nice kids, geeks, and gang-banger alike. What do you want the school to do? Should they make a list of which kids can bring firearms to school and which cannot?
How will they tell? Sorry, but I have no problem with a ban on kids bringing firearms to school. Your kids might be just fine. Others are not.
OK. I have looked unsuccessfully for the federal "safe schools" law that was originally struck down by SCOTUS. I don't know if the federal law exists or, if so, what it says.
The state law here exemps firearms legally carried in your vehicle so long as it is locked.
Bring on the tyranny - it is the law you know!
"The state law here exemps firearms legally carried in your vehicle so long as it is locked."
OK. Then by unlocking the trunk and transferring the firearm on school grounds, I'd guess these kids would have been breaking the law, even in CO.
This was in NY. I believe there is a state law there prohibiting firearms on school grounds, except for law enforcement types. I'm not positive on that, but that's my recollection.
I graduated from a Houston HS in 67. At that time we would trade shotguns and rifles in the school parking lot every Friday afternoon in the fall. Even a couple of teachers were in on it. What you needed depended on what you were hunting that weekend. OH and not one person in our 3 grade 2200 member HS got shot while I was there. Times change ... sigh ..............
To the people who think the kids made a mistake; Your correct.
To the people who think 'Zero Tolerance' is a good thing; You might be a Liberal.
To people that are frightened of their children being around guns; Teach them, at an early age, about gun safety.
Get the law declared unconstitutional or removed -- until then that is the law and like it or not you have to play by the law.
Yes.
Whose law? The ones codified in the constitution? The one instituted by God? Or the ones in violation of both brought to yo by your big government tyrant?
I suggest instead got the kids out of government schools. In fact rid this land of the dirge of the humanist govenrnment indoctrination mills altogether and problems like this would cease to exist.
- Yes it's a dream - but oh what a glorious hope!
When our Government follows the Constitution to a T, then I will play by their law to a T. Until then, I might do things I don't want certain people to know about.
The nation's lawmakers have become more liberal, and the nation has become more touchy-feely
Since when can the 2nd Amendment be voided due certain peoples paranoia?
THe 2nd Amendment hasn't been voided. I can and do own firearms. UNfortunately there are certain places I am not allowed to carry them -- and Liberal Courts have upheld those laws.
Do you think that any amount of fear based laws is going to stop some homicidal maniac from bringing a gun to school?
NO, but it makes the bedwetters and nanny-staters feel like they have done something.
Look - I don;t agree with a lot of laws, and I think this country is in deep doo-doo --- but I am also at heart a very honorable person, and I value my integrity. I may not like a law or a rule -- but the bottom line is - IF IT IS ILLEGAL (IE against the law - good law or bad) and you break that law, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG.
The reason I wondered if this was hysteria was because the kids apparently did nothing but a hand off in the parking lot AFTER school let out.
Is that foolish? Probably. But it just seems to me that a proper course would have been to question the kids, find out what was going on and then, if there's nothing more to the story, give them a good tongue lashing and maybe a couple days detention or suspension.
Instead, these kids had their names in the papers as having been arrested and they have to answer "yes" on a job application to having been arrested for perhaps the rest of their lives. All over something that might have been an innocent mistake in a rural community where kids hunt (you'll notice that rifle was owned by one of the kids, this wasnt a stolen handgun or something).
Granted, there may be more to story, and I conceded that in my initial post. It just seems to me that, if there isn't anything more, this is the type of case where someone could be let off with a warning and school suspension, not arrest.
"What changed from as little as 20 years ago when it was perfectly legal to have guns in your car at school?
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The laws, obviously. I dunno, but I seem to remember when those school gun ban laws were being written.
I'm not sure that minors are covered under the 2nd amendment. Most states have some laws about firearms possession by minors. It varies from state to state.
Correct. §265.01 of New York Penal Law ("Criminal possession of a weapon in the fourth degree") makes possession of a firearm on school grounds a Class-A misdemeanor. There is no exception for CCW permit holders, by the way - only law enforcement officers are exempted.
Very good.
Are you actually advocating that minors be given the same legal rights, responsibilities, and privledges as adults? Do you really want 13 year olds voting? How about 6 year olds? Should my 8 year old sone be able to take my Ruger to class for show and tell? Loaded? How about our constitutional rights preventing unreasonable searches...should schools be prevented from checking the backpacks and lockers of students suspected of having drugs? If they find those drugs, are we going to require that schools establish courts so these students can have their fate decided by a jury of their peers before being expelled, as is an adults constitutional right? Of course, if children are the legal equivalents of adults with all of their rights, then one could also argue that laws restricting their sexual activities are just as "discriminatory" as those that restrict gay sex. The NAMBLA types will love that! So will the military...can you imagine the recruiting opportunities? "Not only will we let you DRIVE a HumVee at 15, we'll let you fire a machine gun too!" Oh, and lets not forget that as our legal equals, the entire "parent-child" relationship becomes akin to that of a slave and master...after all, why should a free and independent American citizen be restricted in his movements and activities by another person when that citizen has committed no crime and is getting no compensation?
Juvenile equality is a nasty can of worms, and there's a very good reason why we DO NOT extend children the same rights that adult citizens enjoy. These restrictions are not some draconian usurpation of our God-given rights, but are a manifestation of our God-given RESPONSIBILITY to raise our children into good adults BEFORE burdening them with the rights and duties of a citizen in our society. Children do NOT have a societal right to ANYTHING that isn't mandated by either specific law or their parents.
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