Skip to comments.NSA fires whistleblower (flashback: Tice diagnosed psychotic paranoid)
Posted on 01/12/2006 5:21:21 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
WASHINGTONThe National Security Agency fired a high level intelligence official just days after he publicly urged Congress to pass stronger protections for federal whistleblowers facing retaliation.
Russ Tice, 43, who was once nominated for an award by the agency for his intelligence work on Iraq, was informed Tuesday that his security clearances had been permanently revoked and that he could no longer work at the secretive intelligence agency known for its eavesdropping and code-breaking capabilities.
Tice has been at the odds with the agency since he reported suspicions that a female co-worker at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), was a spy for the People's Republic of China.
Tice, a 20-year veteran of the federal intelligence agencies, worked at DIA until 2002. He made his initial report about the suspected spy at DIA after noticing that a co-worker voiced sympathies for China, traveled extensively abroad and displayed affluence beyond her means.
Last week, Tice joined other federal employees from national security agencies on Capitol Hill to raise concerns that whistleblowers are being punished for stepping forward. The whistleblowers pointed out that the 1989 Whistleblower Protection Act does not cover federal employees who work in the nation's intelligence community.
" In a time of danger, literally brought to our very shores, abuses such as these, should not be tolerated," said Tice, speaking at a press conference following a meeting with congressional staffers.
Is there a connection between his public speech last week and his termination?
Sibel Edmonds, the leader of the newly formed National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, believes so.
"They try to use the fear factor: Don't go to the Congress. If you do, this is what will happen to you," said Edmonds, who was fired by the FBI in 2002 after reporting suspected espionage and misconduct. "By doing this they send a chilling message to anyone who wants to step forward."
Edmonds vowed to help find legal representation for Tice. The Defense Department's Inspector General's Civil Reprisal Investigations unit is also examining his claims of retaliation.
In June, 2003, the agency suspended his security clearances and ordered him to maintain the agency's vehicles by pumping gas and cleaning them. Last month, they ordered him to unload furniture at its warehouses.
Tice's firing raises concerns for all federal whistleblowers, said Danielle Brian, executive director of the Project On Government Oversight, a nonpartisan watchdog group based in Washington. "To receive this type of humiliation is a terrible message to anyone else who is handling the very important work that they do."
In response to requests for comment, the NSA sent an e-mail stating that the "NSA has no information to provide about personnel matters and does not comment on actual or alleged case facts regarding current or former affiliates."
In an interview, Tice said his statements last week, "hastened the process," but he had expected it for some time.
In April 2003, Tice sent an e-mail to the DIA agent handling his suspicions about a co-worker being a Chinese spy. He was prompted to do so by a news report about two FBI agents who were arrested for giving classified information to a Chinese double agent.
"At the time, I sent an e-mail to Mr. James (the person at DIA handling his complaint) questioning the competence of counterintelligence at FBI," Tice wrote in a document submitted to the Inspector General. In the e-mail, he mentioned that he suspected that he was the subject of electronic monitoring.
Shortly after sending the e-mail, an NSA security officer ordered him to report for "a psychological evaluation" even though he had just gone through one nine months earlier. Tice believes James called NSA to ask them "to go after him" on their behalf.
When Tice called Mr. James to confront him about calling the NSA security official, he told Tice that "there was reason to be concerned" about his suspicion about his former co-worker.
The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia, according to Tice. "He did this even though he admitted that I did not show any of the normal indications of someone suffering from paranoia," Tice wrote in a statement to the inspector general.
"I knew my from that day that my career was over," said Tice, who has worked in intelligence since he graduated from the University of Maryland in 1985. His job at NSA was so top secret that he could not even reveal his title.
In the summer of 2003, Tice told the NSA that he was considering talking to his congressional representatives about waste and abuse at NSA security. He was told that he would face retaliation if he did so, Tice wrote in his statement to the inspector general.
A few weeks after contacting Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., the retaliation intensified, he said. The NSA even sent an agent to his home to "threaten me in person with unspecified actions if I went to the press," Tice said.
In August 2004, the agency suspended Tice's clearance. They sent him to the "motor pool' for eight months where he was assigned to fill up NSA vehicles with gas, check fluids and drive around "the bigwigs," on occasion, Tice said in an interview.
He was then put on administrative leave for 14 months. Last month he was re-assigned to the NSA's warehouse where he was ordered to unload furniture from trucks.
"I reported my suspicion and got blown off," Tice said. "I pushed the issue and that ticked them off, the fact that I questioned their almighty wisdom."
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This is crazy. It is the government's job to do covert and secret operations - they have to in order to intercept possible terror plots and dangerous international criminals, etc. I am so tired of this bullsh*t. How the hell do they expect anybody in this country to be safe if liberals, the media and those other idiots don't want any precautions taken?
Okay, just don't do nothing then and see what happens.
Something stinks here, and, at least this time, I'm pretty sure it's not my cat that I smell.
WHY IS THIS GUY OUT AND WALKING AROUND.
this clown needs to be "frogmarched" to the state pen and maybe after a few good lessons from the other inmates, he'll reconsider his position. Maybe Teddy boy can take him for a car ride, or better yet, Clinton can take him for a walk in Ft Marcy Park.
eh, Tice is just a woman scorned. Payback to the NSA by making up this spying stuff.
oddly, people really are out to get him now. his delusions have come true.
Did you listen to ed meese?
Long and overly informative rant self-deleted.
A short stay in Leavenworth, followed by a quick execution, will resolve this "issue" to my complete satisfaction.
listen to him talk; he's yet to say HE talked to the NYT.
I missed that segment.
Keep an eye on how much time the MSM spends with Tice. If the MSM should keep its distance from him it's because he's behaved in VERY odd fashion and they don't dare put him in front of the camera for extended periods of time for fear of what he might say and how it would make them look.
Whistle blower, my eye. He's a disgruntled ex-employee. And possibly a soon-to-be felon.
He gave it to matthews chapter and verse, word for word, about Tice and plame and the 'wiretapping.'
He might as well have been reading from FR.
Matthews couldn't get in a word.
Wow, nice guy. And this is the Dems next big catch to show how horrible the Bush administration is? You can't make this kind of stuff up. Bwahahahahahaha!
A whistleblower is someone who reveals illegal doings.
What the NSA was or is doing is not illegal. What Tice did only confirms he is not fit to work there, he does not understand what the NSA does.
Total irony. Aired his idrty laundry - his ignorance - for all to see.
Man, the guys who are attacking the President are dropping like flies.
````In April 2003, Tice sent an e-mail to the DIA agent handling his suspicions about a co-worker being a Chinese spy. He was prompted to do so by a news report about two FBI agents who were arrested for giving classified information to a Chinese double agent.~~
Nice story, isn't it?
It's NOT true; he did send an email about a co-worker, saying that she MIGHT be a spy; his proof?
he THOUGHT her mother was a spy.
After that got knocked down, he did it AGAIN; that's when he got the psych test.
That is THE story.
Carefully parse what this guy is saying; he's not saying ANYTHING; he's got nothing except a bunch of "mights" and "what if's"
Tonight on Hardball, he actually said he's going to see the judiciary committee tomorrow to -- and this is almos t an exact quote "press the flesh and meet and greet" -- or something very close to that.
btw, this guy did NOT work on any kind of intercept or wiretapping; he's talking about stuff he had NO access to.
I wonder what Meeses screen name is. I wonder if Tice's starts with "r-i-g-h-t" and ends with a "2"
If Tice is like other paranoid schizophrenics I've come across, he's probably able to skate by long enough to complete a typical television interview and come across as merely suspicious, not nuts.
Tice must be a libertarian.
So I wonder if he was an "intelligence employee" and NOT an "intelligence agent", or is there a difference?