Skip to comments.NSA fires whistleblower (flashback: Tice diagnosed psychotic paranoid)
Posted on 01/12/2006 5:21:21 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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he's an employee!
"In April 2003, Tice sent an e-mail to the DIA agent handling his suspicions about a co-worker being a Chinese spy. He was prompted to do so by a news report about two FBI agents who were arrested for giving classified information to a Chinese double agent.
"At the time, I sent an e-mail to Mr. James (the person at DIA handling his complaint) questioning the competence of counterintelligence at FBI," Tice wrote in a document submitted to the Inspector General. In the e-mail, he mentioned that he suspected that he was the subject of electronic monitoring."
Note that not only does Tice report his suspicions about his co-worker being a Chinese agent, he also sends another e-mail questioning the competence of counterintelligence at the FBI, and also says he suspects he is the subject of electonic monitoring. So three episodes of paranoia: 1) co-worker is a Chinese spy; 2) incompetence of FBI; and 3) he's being electronically monitored. It's the he's being electronically monitored part that gives him away. Thank goodness they got him out of there before he became a real danger. Although he still was one by spilling the beans about the NSA wiretapping program. Lock him up before he does more damage.
'congress' was NOT left out.
We were just talking about you!
"If Tice is like other paranoid schizophrenics I've come across"
Psychotic paranoia is not the same thing as paranoid schizophrenia.
here are the first threads:
What about the toilets?
I saw him on Snotball. He has a strange faraway look in his eye...sorta like at any given moment he may pull out an icepick and stick it in your chest.
I hope Chris Matthews invites him on the program often.
did you see ed meese?
Tice, Russ; Former Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, Air Force, Naval Intelligence, DIA and NSA
Russ Tice worked technical intelligence issues as an all-source analyst, systems instructor, special programs expert, technical missions operations action officer, tasking agent, field intelligence on-site analyst and liaison, and advanced capabilities officer. Known as a stickler for technical detailed analysis and by the book on security regs. After returning from a temporary overseas assignment in 2001, he observed that a DIA coworker exhibited the classic signs of involvement in espionage. After quietly reporting this, his suspicion was quickly dismissed by DIAs counterintelligence (CI) office. He continued to observe activity to suggest there was a problem and reported such. He returned to the National Security Agency and, busy with the Iraqi War, dropped the issue. When noting a report that FBI CI agents availed secrets to a China source for sex, he questioned the FBIs competence. NSA retaliated by having him declared crazy, revoking his security clearance, and terminating his employment in May 2005.
Maybe it's classified info?
No. I'm behind on this story. I was busy today.
|FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
APRIL 27, 2005
|CONTACT: National Security Whistleblowers Coalition
Sibel Edmonds, (703) 519-3640, firstname.lastname@example.org
National Security Whistleblowers Coalition: Congress, Whistleblower Protection & Accountability
WASHINGTON -- April 27 -- What: An unprecedented group of national security whistleblowers have formed a united front as the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). They will collectively attend two bipartisan congressional meetings today to demand that Congress act to end government retaliation against those who expose national security blunders, that Congress hold hearings into the federal governmenta's actions against whistleblowers, and that Congress act to require individual accountability for retaliation against whistleblowers. The congressional meetings will be followed by a press conference featuring speakers from the NSWBC and guest speakers.
Speakers: Sibel Edmonds, Former Language Specialist, FBI
Coleen Rowley, Retired Agent and former division counsel, FBI
John Vincent, Veteran Special Agent, FBI
Mike German, Veteran Special Agent, FBI
Russ Tice, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA
Jesselyn Radack, Former Counsel, DOJ
Guest Speakers: Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-MA)
Mark Zaid, attorney, Krieger Zaid LLC
Professor William Weaver, University of Texas
Danielle Brian, Director, Project on Government Oversight (POGO)
Tom Devine, Legal Director, Government Accountability Project (GAP)
Dan Ellsberg, Founder, Truth Telling Project
Date: Thursday, April 28
Time: 1:30 PM- 3:00PM
Location: 122 Cannon House Office Building, SE, Washington, DC
Background: Since the September 11th terrorist attacks, whistleblowers have felt compelled to come forward in greater numbers to address our nation's security weaknesses in fact almost 50% more have sought protection annually under the Whistleblower Protection Act since that terrible event. However, patriotic truth-tellers across a variety of federal agencies have no protection against retaliation when they blow the whistle. Today, the federal government's policies support and reinforce wrongdoers who would seek to silence whistleblowers by demoting them, taking away their security clearances, or firing them. In recent days that point was illustrated in the case of FBI Special Agent Robert Wright, who has been critical of the efforts to pursue terrorists. Without whistleblower protections, agencies will continue to quash truth tellers and national security weaknesses will be allowed to fester underneath the growing cloak of secrecy.
1. Anderson, Mick, Former Senior Advisor for Policy, DOJ,
Was he once a toilet brush?
The looney left is stealing our reputation as being tinfoil hatters. I am offended.
NSWBC Networking Partners
NSWBC Members (To view members bios click here.... )
Bergman, Bill, Former Senior Financial Market Analyst, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
Bigelow, Steve, Retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, Joint Chiefs of Staff, J-33
Bittler, Thomas, Training Coordinator, TSA-DHS
Black, P. Jeffrey, Federal Air Marshal (FAMS), TSA/DHS
Carman, John, Former Senior Inspector, U.S. Customs
Carpenter, Shawn, Member of Technical Staff, Sandia National Laboratories
Chudson, Jonathan, Former Special Agents, IG-Office, EPA
Cleary, Kevin J., Senior Special Agent, U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security/ICE & U.S. Customs Service (O.I.)
Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI
Conrad, David Mark, Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs
Connolly, Frank, Senior Screening Manager @ Buffalo, TSA
Copley, James, Project Manager, DOE
Costello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Cruse, Larry, Army Intelligence Analyst, DOD
Davidson, Kathaleen, Nuclear Security Training Coordinator, Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station
Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA
Edmonds, Sibel, Former Language Specialist, FBI
Ellsberg, Dan, Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD
Elson, Steve, Veteran Agent, FAA
Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts
Gonzalez, Sandalio, Retired Federal Agent, DEA
Goodman, Melvin A., Former Senior Analyst/ Division Manager, CIA; Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy
Guagliardi, Ray, training coordinator, TSA-DHS
Hirsch, Daniel M., Foreign Service Officer, Department of State
Hnatio, John, Former International Program Manager, DNN, NNSA & DOE
Jenkins, Steve, Intelligence Analyst, NGIC, US Army
Johnson, Larry, Deputy Director- Counterterrorism, Department of State; Analyst,CIA
Kwiatkowski, Karen U., Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), Veteran Policy Analyst-DOD
Lau, Lok, Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Levine, Michael, Retired Supervisory Special Agent/Covert Operations Specialist, DEA
Lipsky, John, Supervisory Special Agent, FBI
Mansour, Joe, Occupational Safety Specialist, Federal Bureau of Prisons
MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA
McGovern, Raymond L., Former Analyst, CIA
McInerney, Cullen, Supervisory Special Agent, Joint Terrorism Task Force, Federal Air Marshal Service
Nunn, Sandy, Former Special Agent, US Customs
Pahle, Theodore J., Senior Intelligence Officer (Ret), DIA
Price, Paul, Language Analyst, NSA
Russell, William H., Computer Specialist, R & E Division, NSA
Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI
Savich, William, Special Agent, Bureau of Diplomatic Security, Department of State
Shaffer, Anthony Allen, Lieutenant Colonel, Senior Operations Officer, DIA-DOD
Springmann, Mike, Foreign Service Officer-5; Second Secretary & Vice Consul, Department of State
Starns, Robert, Special Agent in Charge, Diplomatic Security Service, Department of State
Stella, Marie V., Retired Lead Information System Security Officer, FAA
Stroup, Jay, Former Federal Security Director, TSA
Sullivan, Brian, Special Agent, Risk Program Management Specialist, FAA
Tice, Russ, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA
Tortorich, Larry J., Retired Naval Officer, US Navy & Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA,
Turner, Jane, Veteran Special Agent, FBI
Vincent, John, Veteran Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
Walp, Glenn, PhD, Former Office Leader of the Office of Security Inquiries, Los Alamos National Lab, DOE
Woo, Robert, Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
Wright, Robert, Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
"Tice, a 20-year veteran of the federal intelligence agencies, worked at DIA until 2002. He made his initial report about the suspected spy at DIA after noticing that a co-worker voiced sympathies for China, traveled extensively abroad and displayed affluence beyond her means."
Good grief. A Who's Who of disgruntled employees.
And bush haters all.
He sounds racist towards people with yellow skin. And yet the boneheads attacking Alito probably used him as a source for their questions. But...I thought Alito was the racist one?
hehe. I wonder what party those names donate to at opensecrets.org
I know its no big deal and off topic, but Kennedy had Vanguard mutual funds recently.
Hardball is on again now!
got it. has tice been already on?
My inclination after listening to him is that he didn't come across as a flake. He was forthright and answered the questions given him. Matthews grilled him pretty hard. I'm withholding judgment until this is heard behind closed doors.
I'm still in favor of the current program regardless. I think we ought to do everything possible to ferret out terrorists. I'm sure if they pick up one of my conversations on the phone they are likely to go to sleep listening to what is being said.
no, he's next
It's near the beginning of the interview of Tice that Mathspews draws a parallel between the NSA "spy scandal" and cold war era Russia's tactics and Tice readily and eagerly agrees to Chrissy's inane drivel.
I'm going to listen.
Listen to Tice; he's not really "telling" anything; he's not even saying HE talked to the NYT.
And listen for his quote about going to the Judiciary Committee tomorrow.
This guy has major issues.
Did I miss it??
BTW .. what happen to Tucker's show?? .. I thought it was on at this time
He's a sociopath; he's not divulging anything really.
He's too general with his answers
Was he fired before or after he leaked??
I heard it!
And he's implying that they ARE listening to American citizens, a fact he has NO way of knowing, since he wasn't in that area.
He was "moved" from sensitive positions; and when he kept it up, he was fired.
He can't get into it because it is classified information
This coming from a man who leaked classified information
This guy is full of it
Did you hear him say 'well, you'd be breaking the law?'
he doesn't even know the law.
Do NOT miss Ed Meese.
Yea I heard it ... this guy is a loser
tices only complaint is it didnt go thru the fisa court. he is nothing. he knows nothing. he doesnt even know if we are or are not spying on no terrorist related citizens. he said he cant say - to matthews - but what he should have said is he doesnt know, but then that would end his tv career. the guy is ignorant. they were right to fire him and i hope he winds up in jail. he is supposed to notify the nsa of exactly what he will tell congress and if he doesnt he is a hypocrite.
This guy reminds me of Collen Rowley
or Scott Ritter.
and he belongs to that group. Surprised?
Bush isnt even in NSA and yet he spelled it out a few weeks ago to the White House press corps exactly why fisa was not required. Did tice sleep thru it?
now Ed Meese will mop the floor with Matthews.
He has the real facts, ya know?
He considers himself a source not a leak and it's not classified
He can't keep his story straight
how can he consider himself a source reporting a crime? he already just said he isnt sure if we are spying on americans. he isnt a whistleblower; he's a liar!
Like I've said so many times before......
Hardball is the funniest show on TV since Seinfeld.