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NSA fires whistleblower (flashback: Tice diagnosed psychotic paranoid)
Pulse-Journal ^ | May 05, 2005 | REBECCA CARR

Posted on 01/12/2006 5:21:21 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican

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To: RedBloodedAmerican

he's an employee!


51 posted on 01/12/2006 7:29:02 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: JCEccles

"In April 2003, Tice sent an e-mail to the DIA agent handling his suspicions about a co-worker being a Chinese spy. He was prompted to do so by a news report about two FBI agents who were arrested for giving classified information to a Chinese double agent.

"At the time, I sent an e-mail to Mr. James (the person at DIA handling his complaint) questioning the competence of counterintelligence at FBI," Tice wrote in a document submitted to the Inspector General. In the e-mail, he mentioned that he suspected that he was the subject of electronic monitoring."


Note that not only does Tice report his suspicions about his co-worker being a Chinese agent, he also sends another e-mail questioning the competence of counterintelligence at the FBI, and also says he suspects he is the subject of electonic monitoring. So three episodes of paranoia: 1) co-worker is a Chinese spy; 2) incompetence of FBI; and 3) he's being electronically monitored. It's the he's being electronically monitored part that gives him away. Thank goodness they got him out of there before he became a real danger. Although he still was one by spilling the beans about the NSA wiretapping program. Lock him up before he does more damage.


52 posted on 01/12/2006 7:29:13 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

'congress' was NOT left out.


53 posted on 01/12/2006 7:29:35 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: cmsgop

We were just talking about you!


54 posted on 01/12/2006 7:30:40 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: flaglady47

"If Tice is like other paranoid schizophrenics I've come across"

Psychotic paranoia is not the same thing as paranoid schizophrenia.


55 posted on 01/12/2006 7:31:33 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

here are the first threads:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=NSA%20whistleblower%20asks%20to%20testify


56 posted on 01/12/2006 7:31:38 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"In June, 2003, the agency suspended his security clearances and ordered him to maintain the agency's vehicles by pumping gas and cleaning them."

What about the toilets?

57 posted on 01/12/2006 7:32:14 PM PST by BobS
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I saw him on Snotball. He has a strange faraway look in his eye...sorta like at any given moment he may pull out an icepick and stick it in your chest.

I hope Chris Matthews invites him on the program often.


=:/


58 posted on 01/12/2006 7:34:25 PM PST by Palladin (Senator Biden is a Moron with a capital "M".)
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To: Howlin

bwaha

http://www.nswbc.org/NSWBC%20Members%20Op%20Ed%20Articles/Russ%20Tice%20-%20letter%20from%20NSA.pdf


59 posted on 01/12/2006 7:37:42 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Palladin

did you see ed meese?


60 posted on 01/12/2006 7:37:46 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: flaglady47
It gets juicier:

Tice, Russ; Former Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, Air Force, Naval Intelligence, DIA and NSA
Russ Tice worked technical intelligence issues as an all-source analyst, systems instructor, special programs expert, technical missions operations action officer, tasking agent, field intelligence on-site analyst and liaison, and advanced capabilities officer. Known as a stickler for technical detailed analysis and “by the book” on security regs. After returning from a temporary overseas assignment in 2001, he observed that a DIA coworker exhibited the classic signs of involvement in espionage. After quietly reporting this, his suspicion was quickly dismissed by DIA’s counterintelligence (CI) office. He continued to observe activity to suggest there was a problem and reported such. He returned to the National Security Agency and, busy with the Iraqi War, dropped the issue. When noting a report that FBI CI agents availed secrets to a China source for sex, he questioned the FBI’s competence. NSA retaliated by having him declared crazy, revoking his security clearance, and terminating his employment in May 2005.

61 posted on 01/12/2006 7:38:12 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: BobS

Maybe it's classified info?


62 posted on 01/12/2006 7:38:23 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin

No. I'm behind on this story. I was busy today.


63 posted on 01/12/2006 7:39:52 PM PST by Palladin (Senator Biden is a Moron with a capital "M".)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
APRIL 27, 2005
2:15 PM
CONTACT: National Security Whistleblowers Coalition 
Sibel Edmonds, (703) 519-3640, sibeldeniz@aol.com
 
National Security Whistleblowers Coalition: Congress, Whistleblower Protection & Accountability
 

WASHINGTON -- April 27 -- What: An unprecedented group of national security whistleblowers have formed a united front as the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). They will collectively attend two bipartisan congressional meetings today to demand that Congress act to end government retaliation against those who expose national security blunders, that Congress hold hearings into the federal governmenta's actions against whistleblowers, and that Congress act to require individual accountability for retaliation against whistleblowers. The congressional meetings will be followed by a press conference featuring speakers from the NSWBC and guest speakers.

Speakers: Sibel Edmonds, Former Language Specialist, FBI

Coleen Rowley, Retired Agent and former division counsel, FBI

John Vincent, Veteran Special Agent, FBI

Mike German, Veteran Special Agent, FBI

Russ Tice, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA

Jesselyn Radack, Former Counsel, DOJ

Guest Speakers: Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-MA)

Mark Zaid, attorney, Krieger Zaid LLC

Professor William Weaver, University of Texas

Danielle Brian, Director, Project on Government Oversight (POGO)

Tom Devine, Legal Director, Government Accountability Project (GAP)

Dan Ellsberg, Founder, Truth Telling Project

 

Date: Thursday, April 28

Time: 1:30 PM- 3:00PM

Location: 122 Cannon House Office Building, SE, Washington, DC

Background: Since the September 11th terrorist attacks, whistleblowers have felt compelled to come forward in greater numbers to address our nation's security weaknesses in fact almost 50% more have sought protection annually under the Whistleblower Protection Act since that terrible event.  However, patriotic truth-tellers across a variety of federal agencies have no protection against retaliation when they blow the whistle. Today, the federal government's policies support and reinforce wrongdoers who would seek to silence whistleblowers by demoting them, taking away their security clearances, or firing them. In recent days that point was illustrated in the case of FBI Special Agent Robert Wright, who has been critical of the efforts to pursue terrorists. Without whistleblower protections, agencies will continue to quash truth tellers and national security weaknesses will be allowed to fester underneath the growing cloak of secrecy.

1. Anderson, Mick, Former Senior Advisor for Policy, DOJ,
2. Bittler, Thomas, Training Coordinator, TSA-DHS,
3. Carman, John, Former Senior Inspector, U.S. Customs,
4. Carson, Joe, Nuclear Safety Engineer, DOE
5. Chambers, Theresa, Former National Park Service Police Chief,
6. Costello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI,
7. Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI,
8. Coleman, Marsha Adebeyo, Senior Policy Analyst, EPA,
9. Conrad, David “Mark�, Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S.
Customs,
10. Cruse, Larry, Army Intelligence Analyst, DOD,
11. Czarkowski, Carol, Navy-DOD,
12. Dew, Rosemary, Veteran Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
13. Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA,
14. Edmonds, Sibel, Former Language Specialist, FBI
15. Ellsberg, Dan, Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of
Defense (ISA), DOD,
16. Elson, Steve, Veteran Agent, FAA,
17. Fogg, Matthew F., Chief Deputy US Marshal, (INA),
18. Foley, Theresa, Special Agent, FBI,
19. Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts, Boyd
Forbes, Inc.,
20. German, Mike, Former Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI,
21. Goodman, Melvin A., Former Senior Analyst/ Division Manager, CIA; Senior
Fellow at the Center for International Policy,
22. Graf, Mark, Former Security Supervisor & Derivative Classifier, DOE,
23. Graham, Gilbert, Veteran Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
24. Jenkins, Steve, Intelligence Analyst, NGIC, US Army
25. Johnson, Manny, Former Supervisory Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
26. Kleiman, Diane, Former Special Agent, US Customs,
27. Kwiatkowski, Karen U., Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), Veteran Policy Analyst-DOD,
28. Larkin, Lynne A., Former Operations Officer, CIA,
29. Lewis, Linda, Current Emergency Program Specialist (WMD), FSIS- USDA
30. Lau, Lok, Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI
31. MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA,
32. McGovern, Raymond L., Former Analyst, CIA,
33. Nunn, Sandy, Former Special Agent, US Customs,
34. Pahle, Theodore J., Senior Intelligence Officer (Ret), DIA,
35. Radack Jesselyn, Former Counsel, DOJ,
36. Rowley, Coleen, Retired Special Agent and Former Division Counsel, FBI,
37. Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI,
38. Spaulding, Kerry, Veteran Agent, FAA
39. Sullivan, Brian F., Special Agent, Risk Program Management Specialist,
FAA,
40. Tice, Russ, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA,
41. Tortorich, Larry J., Retired Naval Officer, US Navy & Dept. of Homeland
Security/TSA,
42. Turner, Jane, Veteran Special Agent, FBI,
43. Vincent, John, Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
44. Walp, Glenn, PhD, Former Office Leader of the Office of Security
Inquiries, Los Alamos National Lab, DOE,
45. Wehrly, Dot, Veteran Special Agent (Current), FBI,
46. Whitehurst, Dr. Fred, (Retired) Supervisory Special Agent/Laboratory
Forensic Examiner, FBI,
47. Woo, Robert, Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI,
48. Wright, Ann, Col. US Army (ret.); and Former Foreign Service officer
49. Wright, Robert, Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI
50. Zipoli, Matthew J., Former Special Response Team (SRT) Officer, DOE,


64 posted on 01/12/2006 7:44:03 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"Maybe it's classified info?"

Was he once a toilet brush?

65 posted on 01/12/2006 7:44:57 PM PST by BobS
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
The following letter was sent by wrongfully terminated National Security Agency (NSA) analyst Russ Tice to Shays prior to the postponement of the hearing:

28 NOV 2005
The Honorable Christopher H. Shays,
Chairman, Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and
International Relations,
U.S. House of Representatives,
1126 Longworth Building,
Washington, D.C. 20515-0704
Dear Congressman Shays,

I am a former intelligence officer with the National Security Agency (NSA), where I was retaliated against for following regulations, and reporting my suspicions that a coworker was involved in espionage.

I have recently found out that the mother of the person I suspected was very-highly placed at posts in the Department of Defense (DoD) at the Defense Information Security Agency (DISA), as a Deputy Under-Secretary of Defense at the Pentagon for Intelligence, and the Principal Deputy Director of the Defense Security Service (DSS).

She was granted these posts and given our country's highest security clearances despite the fact that, as young women, she was a product of Communist China who came to the United States in 1960. Considering this, I believe the prospect of her daughter being involved in espionage is greatly enhanced.

The means of retaliation used against me by the security office at NSA was to have me declared psychotic in order to revoke my security clearance. This action was taken despite the fact that the very same office at NSA conducted my routine psychological evaluation only nine months prior and found me to be normal.

The DoD Inspector General, and the Merit System Protection Board have already sanctioned this outrageous act. As you know, the whistleblower laws both current and proposed do not protect me from such a vile act as this. Consequently, I believe I would be a perfect candidate to testify at your subcommittee hearing on national security whistleblowers and the abuse of security clearances.

I have been informed by POGO that my name was submitted to your office as a candidate to testify at this hearing, yet I have received no word from you. From what I understand, your hearing will include the bureaucratic entities that condone and foster the very misconduct that is in question.

I likewise have heard that the two whistleblowers to appear were not removed from their posts nor were their security clearances revoked in retaliation. Can you please explain to me why I was not contacted by your office about this upcoming hearing or why no intelligence officers will be testifying? At this date I am still very willing to testify at your hearing and I would think that the retaliation dealt to me by the National Security Agency (NSA) would be very pertinent to a hearing on national security whistleblowers.

As it currently stands, your proposed hearing does not represent me or the abuses perpetrated against U.S. intelligence officers. It also omits the only organization that is specifically dedicated to national security whistleblowers, the National Security WhistleBlower Coalition (NSWBC).

To the detriment of the security of our citizens, the Intelligence Community (IC) is using security clearance revocations as weapons of retaliation to silence officers as a means of covering up malfeasance, misconduct, and incompetence. In this letter I have intentionally included some specifics of my case to alert you to the gravity of the potential consequences that involve national security whistleblowers.

It is with this in mind that I implore you to forgo the 06 December hearing and reschedule it to include intelligence officers that have been victims of security clearance abuses and other NSWBC members who have recent and firsthand knowledge of what these abuses mean in terms of our nation's security. Anything other will be a travesty of justice and a serious breach of faith of the American people in terms of their safety and security that is entrusted into your hands.

Very Respectfully,
Russell D. Tice
Former Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, National Security Agency
Member, NSWBC
66 posted on 01/12/2006 7:45:08 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: Howlin

The looney left is stealing our reputation as being tinfoil hatters. I am offended.


67 posted on 01/12/2006 7:45:52 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin
He is a member of a group forme din August 2004 called National Secuity Whistleblowers

NSWBC Networking Partners

Project on Government Oversight (POGO)

Open the Government Coalition

American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)

Bill of Rights Defense Committee (BORDC)

Veteran Affairs Whistleblowers Coalition (VAWBC)

National Whistleblower Center

Liberty Coalition

NSWBC Members             (To view members bios click here.... )

Barlow, Richard M., Former Intelligence Officer, CIA, the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) & the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency

Bergman, Bill, Former Senior Financial Market Analyst, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago

Bigelow, Steve, Retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, Joint Chiefs of Staff, J-33

Bittler, Thomas, Training  Coordinator, TSA-DHS

Black, P. Jeffrey, Federal Air Marshal (FAMS), TSA/DHS

Carman, John, Former Senior Inspector, U.S. Customs

Carpenter, Shawn, Member of Technical Staff, Sandia National Laboratories

Chudson, Jonathan, Former Special Agents, IG-Office, EPA

Cleary, Kevin J., Senior Special Agent, U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security/ICE & U.S. Customs Service (O.I.)

Cole, John M., Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, FBI

Conrad, David “Mark”, Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs

Connolly, Frank, Senior Screening Manager @ Buffalo, TSA

Copley, James, Project Manager, DOE

Costello, Edward J. Jr., Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

Cruse, Larry, Army Intelligence Analyst, DOD

Davidson, Kathaleen, Nuclear Security Training Coordinator, Pilgrim Nuclear Power Station

Dzakovic, Bogdan, Former Red Team Leader, FAA

Edmonds, Sibel, Former Language Specialist, FBI

Ellsberg, Dan, Former Special Assistant to the Assistant Secretary of Defense (ISA), DOD

Elson, Steve, Veteran Agent, FAA

Forbes, David, Aviation, Logistics and Govt. Security Analysts

Gonzalez, Sandalio, Retired Federal Agent, DEA

Goodman, Melvin A., Former Senior Analyst/ Division Manager, CIA; Senior Fellow at the Center for International Policy

Guagliardi, Ray, training coordinator,  TSA-DHS

Hirsch, Daniel M., Foreign Service Officer,  Department of State

Hnatio, John, Former International Program Manager, DNN, NNSA & DOE

Jenkins, Steve, Intelligence Analyst, NGIC, US Army

Johnson, Larry, Deputy Director- Counterterrorism, Department of State; Analyst,CIA

 

 Kwiatkowski, Karen U., Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), Veteran Policy Analyst-DOD

Lau, Lok, Former Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

Levine, Michael, Retired Supervisory Special Agent/Covert Operations Specialist, DEA

Lipsky, John, Supervisory Special Agent, FBI

Mansour, Joe, Occupational Safety Specialist,  Federal  Bureau of Prisons

MacMichael, David, Former Senior Estimates Officer, CIA

McGovern, Raymond L., Former Analyst, CIA

McInerney,  Cullen, Supervisory Special Agent, Joint Terrorism Task Force,   Federal Air Marshal Service

Nunn, Sandy, Former Special Agent, US Customs

Pahle, Theodore J., Senior Intelligence Officer (Ret), DIA

Price, Paul, Language Analyst, NSA

Russell, William H., Computer Specialist, R & E Division, NSA

Sarshar, Behrooz, Retired Language Specialist, FBI

Savich, William, Special Agent, Bureau of Diplomatic Security, Department of State

Shaffer, Anthony Allen, Lieutenant Colonel, Senior Operations Officer, DIA-DOD

Springmann, Mike, Foreign Service Officer-5; Second Secretary & Vice Consul, Department of State

Starns, Robert, Special Agent in Charge, Diplomatic Security Service, Department of State

Stella, Marie V., Retired Lead Information System Security Officer, FAA

Stroup, Jay, Former Federal Security Director, TSA

Sullivan, Brian, Special Agent, Risk Program Management Specialist, FAA

Tice, Russ, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA

Tortorich, Larry J., Retired Naval Officer, US Navy & Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA,

Turner, Jane, Veteran Special Agent, FBI

Vincent, John, Veteran Special Agent, Counterterrorism, FBI 

Walp, Glenn, PhD, Former Office Leader of the Office of Security Inquiries, Los Alamos National Lab, DOE

Woo, Robert, Special Agent, Counterintelligence, FBI

Wright, Robert, Veteran Special agent, Counterterrorism, FBI

68 posted on 01/12/2006 7:46:09 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: Howlin

"Tice, a 20-year veteran of the federal intelligence agencies, worked at DIA until 2002. He made his initial report about the suspected spy at DIA after noticing that a co-worker voiced sympathies for China, traveled extensively abroad and displayed affluence beyond her means."


69 posted on 01/12/2006 7:49:14 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: Howlin

Good grief. A Who's Who of disgruntled employees.


70 posted on 01/12/2006 7:50:18 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

And bush haters all.

VIPS


71 posted on 01/12/2006 7:50:52 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: Howlin

He sounds racist towards people with yellow skin. And yet the boneheads attacking Alito probably used him as a source for their questions. But...I thought Alito was the racist one?


72 posted on 01/12/2006 7:51:56 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin

hehe. I wonder what party those names donate to at opensecrets.org


73 posted on 01/12/2006 7:53:19 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin

I know its no big deal and off topic, but Kennedy had Vanguard mutual funds recently.


74 posted on 01/12/2006 8:04:26 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; All; Arizona Carolyn; conservativebabe; hole_n_one; JCEccles; meyer; Mo1; ...

Hardball is on again now!


75 posted on 01/12/2006 8:05:26 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: Howlin

got it. has tice been already on?


76 posted on 01/12/2006 8:11:42 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

My inclination after listening to him is that he didn't come across as a flake. He was forthright and answered the questions given him. Matthews grilled him pretty hard. I'm withholding judgment until this is heard behind closed doors.

I'm still in favor of the current program regardless. I think we ought to do everything possible to ferret out terrorists. I'm sure if they pick up one of my conversations on the phone they are likely to go to sleep listening to what is being said.


77 posted on 01/12/2006 8:11:45 PM PST by RichardW
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

no, he's next


78 posted on 01/12/2006 8:12:34 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: Howlin

It's near the beginning of the interview of Tice that Mathspews draws a parallel between the NSA "spy scandal" and cold war era Russia's tactics and Tice readily and eagerly agrees to Chrissy's inane drivel.


79 posted on 01/12/2006 8:24:30 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

I'm going to listen.


80 posted on 01/12/2006 8:25:08 PM PST by Howlin (n)
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To: hole_n_one

Listen to Tice; he's not really "telling" anything; he's not even saying HE talked to the NYT.

And listen for his quote about going to the Judiciary Committee tomorrow.

This guy has major issues.


81 posted on 01/12/2006 8:26:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Did I miss it??

BTW .. what happen to Tucker's show?? .. I thought it was on at this time


82 posted on 01/12/2006 8:27:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: RichardW

He's a sociopath; he's not divulging anything really.


83 posted on 01/12/2006 8:27:54 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mo1

me, too.


84 posted on 01/12/2006 8:28:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

He's too general with his answers

Was he fired before or after he leaked??


85 posted on 01/12/2006 8:31:22 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: hole_n_one

I heard it!

And he's implying that they ARE listening to American citizens, a fact he has NO way of knowing, since he wasn't in that area.


86 posted on 01/12/2006 8:31:23 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mo1

He was "moved" from sensitive positions; and when he kept it up, he was fired.


87 posted on 01/12/2006 8:32:13 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

He can't get into it because it is classified information

This coming from a man who leaked classified information

This guy is full of it


88 posted on 01/12/2006 8:33:09 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

Did you hear him say 'well, you'd be breaking the law?'

he doesn't even know the law.

Do NOT miss Ed Meese.


89 posted on 01/12/2006 8:33:49 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Yea I heard it ... this guy is a loser


90 posted on 01/12/2006 8:34:41 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Howlin
What a turnabout of events. Matthews says he would spy if he could catch terrorists in the United States and Tice doesn't really know what they are doing but agrees they couldn't get a warrant given they way they are identifying calls.
91 posted on 01/12/2006 8:35:01 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: RichardW

tices only complaint is it didnt go thru the fisa court. he is nothing. he knows nothing. he doesnt even know if we are or are not spying on no terrorist related citizens. he said he cant say - to matthews - but what he should have said is he doesnt know, but then that would end his tv career. the guy is ignorant. they were right to fire him and i hope he winds up in jail. he is supposed to notify the nsa of exactly what he will tell congress and if he doesnt he is a hypocrite.


92 posted on 01/12/2006 8:36:09 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin

This guy reminds me of Collen Rowley


93 posted on 01/12/2006 8:36:38 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

or Scott Ritter.

and he belongs to that group. Surprised?


94 posted on 01/12/2006 8:37:16 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Bush isnt even in NSA and yet he spelled it out a few weeks ago to the White House press corps exactly why fisa was not required. Did tice sleep thru it?


95 posted on 01/12/2006 8:37:48 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Dolphy

now Ed Meese will mop the floor with Matthews.


96 posted on 01/12/2006 8:38:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

He has the real facts, ya know?


97 posted on 01/12/2006 8:38:39 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

He considers himself a source not a leak and it's not classified

He can't keep his story straight


98 posted on 01/12/2006 8:39:18 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

how can he consider himself a source reporting a crime? he already just said he isnt sure if we are spying on americans. he isnt a whistleblower; he's a liar!


99 posted on 01/12/2006 8:39:28 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin
Matthews compared the response of the Bush Admin to Tice's allegations to that of Russia and their putting of dissenters in a Russian gulag and Tice leaped out of his seat to agree.

Like I've said so many times before......

Hardball is the funniest show on TV since Seinfeld.

100 posted on 01/12/2006 8:40:29 PM PST by hole_n_one
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