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Eric Alterman: Conservative Christians Don't Have "Much Use" For Jews
Newsbusters.org ^ | 12 January 2006 | Scott Whitlock

Posted on 01/12/2006 5:21:45 PM PST by infoguy

According to Eric Alterman, conservative Christians don’t really like the Jews. The left-wing writer suggested this in the Thursday edition of his MSNBC blog, despite admitting that he knows "darn few" right-wing Christians. (Alterman is known for writing books such as "What Liberal Media?" and others.) He came to this conclusion while expounding on the perceived anti-Semitism of some Europeans:

"I wouldn’t argue that the French are not anti-Semitic and that American right-wing Christians are not philo-Semitic, but it’s not that simple. France had Jewish prime ministers in both the thirties and fifties and might get another one soon. No way that could happen in the United States even today. So what does that say? Here’s what I think, though it’s not provable. In France, they don’t like "the Jews" but they have no problem with Jews. I lived in Paris for a bit and it was never an issue and I’ve never heard of it being an issue for any of my friends. Among Christian right-wingers, however—of whom I know darn few, I’ll admit—I get the feeling they love "the Jews" but don’t have much use for Jews, as individuals. It’s just a thought."(Emphasis added by writer and here also)



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Can you imagine the "outrage" in the MSM if a conservative had said this?!?

In addition to his MSNBC.com gig, Alterman is also a writer at the far-left The Nation magazine and a "senior fellow" at the Center for American Progress.

1 posted on 01/12/2006 5:21:46 PM PST by infoguy
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To: infoguy

He's a horse's ass........and an incredibly uninformed, stupid one at that.

Conservative Christians are the best friends that the Jews have on this earth. That is a fact. Period. End of discussion.


2 posted on 01/12/2006 5:23:41 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: infoguy

Yeah, that's why this conservative Christian goes to synagogues on occasion to worship alongside Jews.

It's just because I like them but don't have much use for them. They are really just taking up space in my synagogue.


3 posted on 01/12/2006 5:24:36 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: infoguy

These clowns keep taking more and more intellectually indefensible positions. They really do sound like the Commies toward the end of the Soviet Union. You'd feel sorry for them if they weren't so vicious.


4 posted on 01/12/2006 5:25:50 PM PST by speedy
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To: infoguy

I didn't have much use for Jews either....untill I started tacking conservative.


5 posted on 01/12/2006 5:25:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: infoguy
They are petrified. Their meal ticket is to be the token Jews in the Democrat Liberal Establishment. Now they see the growing ties between Jews and Christians and it TERRIFIES them that the Jews are doing to dump the Democrats. You are starting to see more and more of these Demagogic attacks on Christians supposedly warning America Jews "Christians are not your friend".
6 posted on 01/12/2006 5:26:19 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Misuse of the Commerce Clause is the root of all Congressional evil)
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To: infoguy

Mr. Alterman, I'll tell you who are Jew haters, Muslim terrorists, you know, the ones you and your Democrat liberal Jew vermin are trying to protect. You need not fear Christians, but you better damn well fear these killers, for it is your head and the heads of all Jews that they want and will get. You dumb idiots are laying the groundwork for you own departure from this world. Buffoons!!! Thank God for Israel and the IDF. American Jews are plowing their way to the hereafter by their own Democrat liberal traitor hands..


7 posted on 01/12/2006 5:27:09 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: infoguy

Disregard every word Alterman writes. Including AND and THE.


8 posted on 01/12/2006 5:27:55 PM PST by Bullish (Proudly and consistently hating the Clinton's since 1992)
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To: infoguy
He's judging the boogeyman under his bed.

Hey Eric!

BOO!!

9 posted on 01/12/2006 5:28:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: infoguy

>>>"Can you imagine the "outrage" in the MSM if a conservative had said this?!?"<<<

Let me be the first, I don't have much use for NY Jews that vote for Hilliary.

TT


10 posted on 01/12/2006 5:29:54 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: infoguy
Oh. Christians don't have "much use for Jews as individuals." This - of course! - coming from a Leftist dolt who obviously abides by group identity wherever possible.

After all, who's been agitating for sex, race, class for decades? Those evil Christians - or those degenerate, hypocritical swine on the Left?

11 posted on 01/12/2006 5:30:17 PM PST by Reactionary (Liberals and Stalinists: The Rhetoric is the Same)
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To: infoguy

I get the feeling they love "the Jews" but don’t have much use for Jews, as individuals. It’s just a thought."



Oh, well... if his feeling is a thought then he must be right. So sorry that I think he is an IDIOT...even if he proves it with his prattling talk.


12 posted on 01/12/2006 5:31:51 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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Eric Alterman: Conservative Christians Don't Have "Much Use" For Jews

That is a total crock. I am a Jew on my father's side of the family but I am also a Conservative Christian. I like Jews!

13 posted on 01/12/2006 5:32:54 PM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: infoguy

Gee, and I always thought that ALL Christians worshipped a Jew...Jesus Christ!


14 posted on 01/12/2006 5:32:56 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: infoguy
This conservative Christian does. And, as I stop to think of it,so do about 2000 others that I know.

It is entirely possible, I suppose, that Mr. Alterman is a more "senior fellow" than he realizes.
15 posted on 01/12/2006 5:35:53 PM PST by pilipo
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To: infoguy

We admire Jews except for those whose name ends in Alterman.


16 posted on 01/12/2006 5:36:20 PM PST by hgro (A)
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To: infoguy

He's more full of shite' than a Christmas Turkey BUMP!


17 posted on 01/12/2006 5:37:23 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: infoguy

I wonder how much use Eric Alterman has for Jews, at least ones of the conservative persuasion?


18 posted on 01/12/2006 5:40:30 PM PST by Argus
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To: infoguy
In my humble opinion, Conservative Christians are about the ONLY friends the Jews have in today's world.
19 posted on 01/12/2006 5:41:24 PM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: infoguy

Remember this spoof song from the 60's? It has a good line about the Jews.

National Brotherhood Week

Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
And the black folks hate the white folks;
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule.

But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
Lena Horne and Sheriff Clark are dancing cheek to cheek.
It's fun to eulogize
The people you despise
As long as you don't let 'em in your school.

Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks,
And the rich folks hate the poor folks.
All of my folks hate all of your folks,
It's American as apple pie.

But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans 'cause it's very chic.
Step up and shake the hand
Of someone you can't stand,
You can tolerate him if you try!

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
It's National Everyone-Smile-At-One-Another-Hood Week.
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you.
It's only for a week, so have no fear;
Be grateful that it doesn't last all year!

-- Tom Lehrer


20 posted on 01/12/2006 5:42:27 PM PST by LibertarianCandidate
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To: infoguy

I don't have much use for Reformed, democrat, anti-Israel Jews.


21 posted on 01/12/2006 5:46:14 PM PST by moonman
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To: infoguy

This man has got to be one of the most ignorant writers around.


22 posted on 01/12/2006 5:47:23 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: infoguy

No Eric, lemme 'splain: NO ONE with half a brain has any use for YOU...you miserable commie filth.


23 posted on 01/12/2006 5:48:06 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: infoguy

One would think that a liberal like Alterman would at least adhere to PC liberalism and not make such outrageous generalities and stereotypes. Talking about "conservative Christians" - some Roman Catholics, some Orthodox, some Methodists, some assorted evangelicals, etc., etc., etc., -- is so absurdly sweeping a category it's sort like talking about conservatives with two feet. As an old Jewish saying has it, "talk to two Jews and you get three opionions". But today from the Left we get more ideologues and doctrinaires than from anywhere on the political spectrum.


24 posted on 01/12/2006 5:53:41 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: infoguy

Alterman doesn't actually know any conservative Christians, but he's qualified to defame them any day of the week.

I'll add my voice to others here. Conservative Christians are the best friends Jews have in this world. They are, in Alterman's terms, "philosemitic". They support Israel, come what may, and they love Jews. Most especially, it should be pointed out, believing Jews.

Alterman probably forgets that French Jews were rounded up and loaded onto the cattle cars by Frenchmen.

And as others have pointed out, Alterman probably forgets that while he is trying to dial in the precise gradations of anti-and-philo-semitism among Americans he doesn't know, there are people determined to wipe the Jews from the face of the earth. They have the will, and they are determined to find the means. It won't be Alterman or his friends standing in the gap for Israel and the Jews, it will be the Christians. The ones he doesn't know, but feels free to defame.


25 posted on 01/12/2006 5:54:25 PM PST by marron
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To: infoguy

Leftists are Hitler's soulmates.


26 posted on 01/12/2006 5:56:01 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: infoguy

Eric, any Christian who's at all well educated about the history of his faith tends to be sympathetic to the Jews. If for no other reason...what religion do you think the apostles originally were? For that matter, what religion do you think the Founder was?

:-D )))

Now there are people of the Jewish faith whom I like, and people of the Jewish faith whom I'd be perfectly happy never to see or hear from again. But that's because of factors other than their being Jewish. As it should be.


27 posted on 01/12/2006 5:58:52 PM PST by RichInOC ("If you gave Alan Dershowitz a dose of Viagra, his posture would improve..."--Jonah Goldberg)
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To: infoguy

What's really sad for Alterman is that no one would know what an idiot he was if he would just keep his mouth (and laptop) shut.

God bless Israel, the Jews and pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Regards,

"Fundie" Bible-thumping-tongue-speaking Jesus Freak Spirit-filled Believer


28 posted on 01/12/2006 5:58:52 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Were the American Revolutionaries rebelling against Constituted Authority and thereby God? I say no.)
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To: Echo Talon

I think he was probably a red diaper baby like David Horowitz but never came to his senses.


29 posted on 01/12/2006 5:59:39 PM PST by LibertarianCandidate
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To: infoguy

I don't think Alterman reads Free Republic. Just a guess.


30 posted on 01/12/2006 5:59:52 PM PST by Torie
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To: speedy

Actually, I was thinking they sound more like the NAZIS before Hitler became de-facto Dictator.


31 posted on 01/12/2006 5:59:58 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Were the American Revolutionaries rebelling against Constituted Authority and thereby God? I say no.)
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To: Pharmboy
Christians are little Jew wannabees (so my Jewish uncle tells me) and that ain't a bad thing for Jews...and it ain't a bad thing for Israel.

My Lord is a Jew first. And whatever He says, I do (try my best anyway).

32 posted on 01/12/2006 6:00:01 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: infoguy

I have to say that the "war on the war on Christmas" brings out some pretty unpleasant sentiments among a few individuals who shouldn't be called on to represent an entire movement.

I'm glad that annual event has a defined end date.


33 posted on 01/12/2006 6:02:59 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Dark Skies

The Jews have no friends better than the religious Christians. End of story. And Alterman is a genuine POS.


34 posted on 01/12/2006 6:03:51 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: EternalVigilance

LoL!


35 posted on 01/12/2006 6:04:04 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Were the American Revolutionaries rebelling against Constituted Authority and thereby God? I say no.)
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To: marron

Out of curiosity, have you ever seen Au Revoir Les Enfants? A beautiful French film about Jews being stowed away and hidden in a Catholic boarding school. Really touching film. One of my favorites. You just mentioned the whole French cattle car incident and it came to mind.


36 posted on 01/12/2006 6:05:40 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: infoguy
France had Jewish prime ministers in both the thirties and fifties and might get another one soon. No way that could happen in the United States even today.

I think he is correct. I don't think we can have prime ministers in the United States.

37 posted on 01/12/2006 6:07:55 PM PST by joshhiggins
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To: LibertarianCandidate

Maybe he actually doesnt believe the cr*p he writes, if that were so I would have more respect for him. Maybe he just knows the crazier he sounds to us, the more attention and money he will get from the left.


38 posted on 01/12/2006 6:09:42 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: infoguy

I've noticed this pattern - David Letterman, et al.

They admit they don't watch the show, read the book, know the people - but they are more than ready to pass judgement.

It's amazing the love the Christians I know have for the Jewish people.


39 posted on 01/12/2006 6:14:32 PM PST by I still care (You don't demonstrate tolerance for minorities by apologising for your own heritage- John Howard)
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To: infoguy
France had Jewish prime ministers in both the thirties and fifties and might get another one soon. No way that could happen in the United States even today. So what does that say?

That the United States doesn't have Prime Ministers at all?

40 posted on 01/12/2006 6:25:29 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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but don’t have much use for Jews, as individuals.

What does that even mean?

41 posted on 01/12/2006 6:27:55 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: infoguy
Here’s what I think, though it’s not provable. [snip] Among Christian right-wingers, however—of whom I know darn few, I’ll admit—

So, he admits that he doesn't know more than a token sum, but he decides to make a sweeping generalization based on the one or two he "knows."

Reminds me of the people who couldn't believe that President Reagan beat Mondole... "I can't believe Reagan won! Nobody I know voted for Reagan."

They simply can't believe that there are any people who think differently from them. And when they realize it, they believe that those people must be either a) incredibly stupid, or b) just plain evil.

Mark

42 posted on 01/12/2006 6:28:59 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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I just came on, saw this article, read it, and wondered if I should post what I'm going to post.

Hate to tell you folks, but you are falling into his trap. You probably didn't read carefully what he wrote.

In fact he could use this thread, up to now, to prove he was right.

With a few exceptions all the posts mention love of the Jews, the Jewish people.

That's exactly what he said.

His argument is that Christians don't like individual Jews a people, not as a People.

Now I didn't expect a cliche that "some of my best friend are" but the responses do not, repeat, do not, prove him wrong.

/In a Devil's Advocate mode.

Just say you all like me, and we'll be done.


43 posted on 01/12/2006 6:29:08 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: infoguy
I wonder what Alterman's motive is for such a dumb, ignorant, divisive statement?
44 posted on 01/12/2006 6:35:02 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: infoguy
Among Christian right-wingers, however—of whom I know darn few, I’ll admit—I get the feeling they love "the Jews" but don’t have much use for Jews, as individuals. It’s just a thought."(Emphasis added by writer and here also)

Just a thought, but does Alterman think that all blacks look/think alike?

45 posted on 01/12/2006 6:35:45 PM PST by DejaJude (Admiral Clark said, "Our mantra today is life, liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten it!")
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Well, if Alterman can make sweeping generalizations, I guess I can too...

I would be willing to bet that I know far more conservative Christians (and not just here on FreeRepublic) that Alterman does. "Some of my best friends are conservative Christians!" lol Anyway, in my sweeping generalization, which is probably far more accurate than his, and besides, I "think" mine is better, though it's not provable, I think that conservative Christians are far better friends to Jews, both as a group AND individuals, than leftist or liberal Jews!

After all, many of the Kapos in the concentration camps were Jews too.

And I didn't lose the argument, because I didn't actually use the "N" word first!

Mark

46 posted on 01/12/2006 6:40:39 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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Recently I happened to have the occasion to get into a conversation with a big financial supporter and fund raiser for Dem candidates in Oregon. In the course of talking about potential business matters...he started bragging about some of his political accomplishments (he did not know nor did I let on I was a conservative Pub). A few of his comments about how he (a non-Jewish liberal) has always easily been able to get rich eastern Jews to contribute to his Dem candidates, really gave me pause. How he would fly out to New York and come back with hundreds of thousands of dollars in checks in his pockets because he could so easy to exploit the fear Jews have of right-wing fundamentalist Christians - to get them to make donations to his Dem candidates.

As if agreeing with him, I mentioned how that sounds sort of like the stories plantation owners in the old south told of the proverbial "Boogie Man" who was supposed to live in the woods - to make their slaves too afraid to run off. Without hesitation, he heartily agreed with my comparison.
47 posted on 01/12/2006 6:41:43 PM PST by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: Sabramerican
Well, as proof that nearly every Christian that I know is at the very least, a little bit upset that I haven't taken Jesus as my savior, and as such, they're sure that I'm not going to make it to heaven. To me, that says that they care about me, as an individual. They're thinking about what it is that makes me, me! My soul. It doesn't get more personal than that.

Mark

48 posted on 01/12/2006 6:44:15 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: DejaJude
Just a thought, but does Alterman think that all blacks look/think alike?

Leftists believe it, and they pray for it, since that's what gives them their political power.

Mark

49 posted on 01/12/2006 6:45:11 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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I'm gonna see if I can find his email address and let him know that I as a Christian care about Jews and everyone else.

The guy is an idiot.


50 posted on 01/12/2006 6:47:34 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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