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Ed Meese Takes Chris Matthews Head On 1/12/2006 (Cleans Matthews' Clock)
www.freerepublic.com | January 13, 2006

Posted on 01/13/2006 9:08:20 AM PST by Howlin

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To: Howlin

The part I really can't believe is the notion they keep telling me Tucker Carlson is a "conservative". BS!!


101 posted on 01/13/2006 12:09:27 PM PST by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006)
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To: griswold3

ping for later read


102 posted on 01/13/2006 12:25:09 PM PST by publana (yes, I checked the preview box without previewing)
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To: Howlin
Utter rubbish.

Read the law. It refers to aural or equipment interception.

103 posted on 01/13/2006 12:28:41 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I've read the law AND the court rulings.


104 posted on 01/13/2006 12:32:21 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

I can almost feel the spittle in my face....


105 posted on 01/13/2006 12:35:41 PM PST by woofie
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To: pollyannaish
But I continue to fail to see the advantages of a third party.

The Republicans and Democrats have gotten too much alike for me, and in areas such as fiscal responsibility and federal government power over the states and the people each is worse than the other. I have little hope for reform from within, so I see the need for another party.

So the anti-Bush message doesn't score points with me.

Please differentiate between being against Bush, which I'm not, and criticism of certain actions and speech on the part of him and his supporters.

106 posted on 01/13/2006 12:39:28 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Howlin
I've read the law AND the court rulings.

Then what part of 18 USC Sec. 2510 do you not understand? The definitions there are quite clear, such as the "aural or other acquisition of the contents of any wire, electronic, or oral communication through the use of any electronic, mechanical, or other device."

107 posted on 01/13/2006 12:44:17 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I understand it all.

It is you who is doing the 'parsing.'


108 posted on 01/13/2006 12:47:56 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Well, Scooter Libby is facing 30 years in jail for a mountain out of a mole hill.

Where in the world did sissy Chrissy get that??? Far as I know, all he was indicted on was misleading statements to the Grand Jury. 30 years? In libs dreams!

109 posted on 01/13/2006 12:49:15 PM PST by Don Carlos (Brokeback Mountain: Where men are men, and the sheep can relax!)
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To: Howlin

Great interview with Meese. He put down Matthews spin and lies as soon as it came out of the loudmouth. Made a fool out of Matthews.


110 posted on 01/13/2006 12:49:16 PM PST by Palladin (Senator Biden is a Moron with a capital "M".)
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To: Don Carlos

it is THE libs dream


111 posted on 01/13/2006 12:50:59 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Hope they can handle disappointment. I'll bet this is dismissed.. Soon as they have played it for all the damage they can do, it will be dropped. Unfortunately Libby will be tarred with the charge.


112 posted on 01/13/2006 12:57:35 PM PST by Don Carlos (Christian, VRWC Member, Gun Nut, Right-wing Wacko. I feel sooo blessed!)
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To: Howlin
I understand it all. It is you who is doing the 'parsing.'

Ah, another Clinton tactic, blame the other guy, go on the offensive.

113 posted on 01/13/2006 1:05:44 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Howlin
Don't know about you, Howlin', but this Tucker Carlson twit just makes me itch. I distrust the fact that this silly kid seems to be every liberal producer's idea of a "conservative."

A bow tie does not a conservative make. I see very little evidence of a brain at work. I think he's on because he looks "preppy." One wishes he actually had prepped.

He's about as smart as Coulter's dog, but is a friendly puppy to these liberal jerks.

114 posted on 01/13/2006 1:23:47 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Democrat vote fraud must be stopped. Hello? RNC?)
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To: antiRepublicrat

It was secret so the terrorists would not know what we were doing ..It was not a "cover up".

Why we did it is clear.


115 posted on 01/13/2006 2:06:40 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MEG33
Why we did it is clear.

Fine, but why is Meese pulling a Clinton in defense of it?

116 posted on 01/13/2006 2:11:55 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Your opinion.


117 posted on 01/13/2006 2:18:08 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Howlin

I saw a poll on Brit's show Thursday night, and it showed that 2/3 of the American people see no problem with this issue.


118 posted on 01/13/2006 2:21:33 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: MarkeyD
You have to wonder if Matthews is a moron, or is intentionally misrepresenting what Scooter Libby was indicted for.

Yes and yes.

119 posted on 01/13/2006 2:22:42 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin
Excellent! THANK you!

Meese was outstanding in this interview, and thanks to you, Howlin, I got it on tape.

Made Chrissy look silly...............not that that's hard to do...... ;)

Facts are stubborn things. The Dems would be wise to try to stick to them rather than lie and deceive about everything that spews forth out of their mouths.

120 posted on 01/13/2006 2:25:54 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
But he and his supporters are following the Clinton playbook,...

Pray tell doing what?

121 posted on 01/13/2006 2:29:22 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: antiRepublicrat
Do you have a loyalty to Bush that requires you to defend him when he or his supporters are wrong or dishonest?

He hasn't done anything wrong or dishonest with regards to this one specific issue, and if supporting him on that fact sets your hair on fire, that's your problem.

All you've done is try to equate Bush as some Clinton clone. You need a new schtick or go find some other thread to post in.

122 posted on 01/13/2006 2:33:51 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
All you've done is try to equate Bush as some Clinton clone.

You haven't been reading. I've equated the speech of Bush and his supporters to Clinton's style, such as what the definition of "is" is.

123 posted on 01/13/2006 2:36:39 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Doesn't matter. It's the interception itself by any means, including electronic devices, that matters. That is what is covered by the wiretapping laws, and what is generally referred to as wiretapping.

Course it matters. If I sat here and recorded my next door neighbors phone calls, it's not illegal. What is illegal is if I turned those tapes over for public consumption either through the sale of such tapes, or given to the national or local media for playback, or blabbed around the rest of the neighborhood what I overheard "last night on my phone".

Go ahead, plug a computer into your neighbor's VOIP phone line and start recording everything he says. Don't listen, just record. Then turn yourself in and see whether you get prosecuted under the federal wiretapping laws.

You're assuming the neighbor even HAS a VOIP line to begin with. You'll also be the fool who turned yourself in. There's a difference between government officials wiretapping and private citizens wiretapping. You're just an idiot with a computer.

124 posted on 01/13/2006 2:44:20 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: r9etb
So I guess this means we should put you down on the side of "don't try to figure out what the bad guys are trying to do to you."

Put a new column down, label it "He ain't got a clue" and put his screen name under there.

125 posted on 01/13/2006 2:46:18 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping. Meese sure did a great job. Chrissy wasn't about to give up though. Same Dem talking points. Can't prove his point on the wiretapping, so he had to jump to Plame, thinking that one is still a winner.

Truly pathetic.


126 posted on 01/13/2006 2:52:16 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: antiRepublicrat
Please differentiate between being against Bush, which I'm not, and criticism of certain actions and speech on the part of him and his supporters.

What part of Bush's actions do you distrust? And please, confine your answer to this one subject alone. I don't care about all your other beefs, I've certainly heard them all, and believe all of it to be BS.

127 posted on 01/13/2006 2:52:19 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: antiRepublicrat
You haven't been reading. I've equated the speech of Bush and his supporters to Clinton's style, such as what the definition of "is" is.

My, my, that's certainly an impeachable offense if I ever saw one.

C'mon! Sheesh, you can do better than that.

128 posted on 01/13/2006 2:54:33 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If I sat here and recorded my next door neighbors phone calls, it's not illegal.

Same referenced law:

"(1) Except as otherwise specifically provided in this chapter any person who - (a) intentionally intercepts, endeavors to intercept, or procures any other person to intercept or endeavor to intercept, any wire, oral, or electronic communication; ... shall be punished as provided..."
Actual disclosure is in subparagraphs after (a). Interception alone is illegal. I hope for your sake you haven't already done that.

You're assuming the neighbor even HAS a VOIP line to begin with. You'll also be the fool who turned yourself in.

You're trying to get away from the point. I used VOIP for those people who say the technology's changed. I don't care if you sniff it out of the air or attach a splitter to his POTS line, it's still illegal.

There's a difference between government officials wiretapping and private citizens wiretapping.

No there isn't. They're both illegal, except for the part about "Except as otherwise specifically provided," which references provisions that allow legal government interception of communications under certain circumstances.

129 posted on 01/13/2006 3:01:05 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Appeals panel rejects secret court's limits on terrorist wiretaps

From Terry Frieden

CNN

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 Posted: 1:24 AM EST (0624 GMT)
CNN's Kelli Arena says a U.S. appeals court ruling allows broad wiretap authority in the hunt for terrorists (November 18)

Justice appeals court ruling limiting information sharing


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States has broad authority to use wiretaps and other surveillance techniques to hunt for suspected terrorists, a federal appeals court panel ruled Monday.

In a 56-page opinion overturning a May decision by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the three-judge panel said the expanded wiretap guidelines sought by Attorney General John Ashcroft under the new USA Patriot Act law do not violate the Constitution. (More on the USA Patriot Act)

The ruling by the special panel from the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia gives broad surveillance authority to counter-intelligence and counter-terrorism investigators to track individuals considered potential national security threats.

"Our case may well involve the most serious threat our country faces," the panel declared.

The reversal of May's decision by a federal judge represents a victory for the Justice Department and the FBI, which were harshly criticized by the lower court judge for its handling of wiretap applications, and their interpretation of the authority granted the government by the USA Patriot Act


http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/11/18/spy.court.ruling/


DUH ON YOU.


130 posted on 01/13/2006 3:04:44 PM PST by Howlin
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To: BigSkyFreeper

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131 posted on 01/13/2006 3:06:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: antiRepublicrat

I'm talking relevant law, specifically during a time of war.


132 posted on 01/13/2006 3:06:51 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin; antiRepublicrat

Right. Republicrat is citing law that governs private citizens.


133 posted on 01/13/2006 3:09:59 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin

Loved it, thanks for the post. I don't expect chrissy will have Mr. Meese back on anytime soon. A mega thank you to Mr. Meese.


134 posted on 01/13/2006 3:13:39 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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marking


135 posted on 01/13/2006 4:23:53 PM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: Over 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Howlin

Between the "malaria" his most recent "sickness" I truly believe that Chris is hitting the bottle hard.


136 posted on 01/13/2006 5:15:22 PM PST by CaptainK
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To: Howlin

MEGA Meese and mega Howlin'

Thanks

:)


137 posted on 01/13/2006 5:32:58 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: antiRepublicrat
This issue has politicians on Bush's side getting more Clintonesque every day

Now that is pure BS!

138 posted on 01/13/2006 5:39:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping. I also like this exchange regarding the Plame investigation:

MATTHEWS: OK. Why did the agency go to the FBI?

MEESE: I have no idea.

Another lingering question without an answer.

139 posted on 01/13/2006 5:54:41 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy

I do not trust the CIA anymore; even with Porter Goss over there.


140 posted on 01/13/2006 5:57:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Wow, Meese did great !!!!!!


141 posted on 01/13/2006 6:05:27 PM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Dustbunny

Be sure to watch the video in #16.........it's fabulous.


142 posted on 01/13/2006 6:06:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I don't trust them either but I don't understand, after listening to Fitzgerald bounce around the question of Plame's status, why the investigation was ever launched by the DOJ. And I guess Meese has no idea either.
143 posted on 01/13/2006 6:25:24 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Howlin

MATTHEWS: Well, you know, you mentioned the fact that the president notified the Congress. He notified the intelligence committees, and when he did so, the ranking Democrat on Senate Intelligence Committee wrote a letter—because he was told he couldn‘t tell his staff about it. So Jay Rockefeller wrote down in a letter complaining about it. That didn‘t do any good.

MEESE: No, he didn‘t write a letter complaining about it. He wrote a very short note saying he had some questions about this and then he didn‘t follow up on it. I think it was kind of one of those CYA letters to tell you the truth.

144 posted on 01/14/2006 5:31:58 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557993/posts?page=7#7


145 posted on 01/14/2006 5:56:09 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

ROFL!! No wonder I was laughing, both at the content he was reading and Kennedy reading the content!


146 posted on 01/14/2006 6:01:05 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Howlin

I saw it. I loved the look on Spitoons face..LOL



How's your wrist? Do you need surgery?


147 posted on 01/14/2006 11:14:47 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo

nope!


148 posted on 01/14/2006 11:17:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

YAY!


149 posted on 01/14/2006 11:34:21 AM PST by hipaatwo
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To: McGruff

bttt


150 posted on 01/14/2006 1:32:30 PM PST by nopardons
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