Skip to comments.The Butcher with the Terror Ties - The evidence mounts. (Newsweek reports on Atta in Prague, 2001)
Posted on 01/13/2006 9:11:24 AM PST by neverdem
January 13, 2006,
The Butcher with the Terror Ties
The evidence mounts.
Drip, drip, drip.
Drop by drop, isolated news stories and emerging documents are eroding the popular myth that Saddam Hussein had no connections to Islamofascist terrorists. These revelations undermine war critics efforts to whitewash Baghdads ancien regime such as when Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid declared: There was [sic] no terrorists in Iraq. Likewise, Sen. Carl Levin (D., Mich.) describes a nonexistent relationship between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.
Reid, Levin, and others who dismiss the Baathist-terrorist nexus would struggle to do so if the Bush administration unveiled the evidence tying Hussein to Osama bin Laden and other extremists. President Bush immediately should release papers discussed in the January 9 Newsweek and the January 16 Weekly Standard.
A declassified 2002 Pentagon presentation attained by Newsweeks Mark Hosenball offers fresh details on a suspected April 8-9, 2001, meeting in Prague between September 11 ringleader Mohamed Atta and Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) station chief Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani. No other intelligence reporting contradicts that [deleted] report, the heavily redacted document states. It adds: During one visit, al-Ani ordered IIS finance officer to issue funds to Atta. According to one slide, Atta also reportedly met with Iraqi Charge dAffaires Hussein Kanaan. Also: Several workers at Prague airport identified Atta following 9/11 and remember him traveling with his brother Farhan Atta. (For excerpts go here.)
A slide headlined High-Level Contacts, 1990 2002 lists numerous meetings and communications among bin Laden, his deputies, and top Iraqi officials. In 1999, the presentation says, al-Qaida established operational training camp in northern Iraq; also reports of Iraq training terrorists at Salman Pak, a military base 20 miles south of Baghdad. In 2000, According to CIA fragmentary reporting points to possible Iraqi involvement in bombing USS Cole in October.
Among the documents Findings: Some indications of possible Iraqi coordination with al Qaida specifically related to 9/11.
Is this all fabricated? How much of this presentation is true? Releasing all 60 or so slides for public inspection would help sort this out.
The Weekly Standards Stephen Hayes talked to 11 federal officials before concluding that documents U.S. troops captured in Iraq prove that the former Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion. Hayes reports, Secret training took place primarily at three camps in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak and was directed by elite Iraqi military units. Al-Qaeda-affiliated Muslim fanatics, such as Algerias GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic Army, were among the 8,000 or so murderers instructed between 1999 and 2002.
Handwritten notes, typed forms, computer discs, videos, and other exploitable items confirm Husseins philanthropy of terror, Hayes says. But America has translated only some 2.5 percent of this huge cache. Federal officials barely discuss what they have learned. Even unclassified papers remain unavailable. Absurd. Having studied some of these artifacts, one intelligence expert says: As much as we overestimated WMD, it appears we underestimated [Husseins] support for transregional terrorists.
Asked by Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R., Mich.) to release some texts, National Intelligence Director John Negroponte reportedly told the House Intelligence chairman: Im giving this as much attention as anything else on my plate to make this work.
Earlier this month, Hayes writes, federal immigration judge Anthony Rogers decided to deport Ahmad Mohammed Barodi, a 41-year-old Arlington, Tex., convenience-store owner. Barodi testified in a January 4-5 hearing that he entered America in 1989 on a phony Syrian passport furnished by the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood (SMB), an Islamic terror group. He admitted to smuggling bogus passports into Saudi Arabia for SMB. According to Justice Department records cited by KTVT, CBSs Dallas station, the SMB sent Barodi to a 21-day guerrilla warfare training camp in Iraq in 1982, with the approval of Saddam Hussein. The document adds: Barodi advised that the Iraqi government provided all of the training aids consisting of RPGs (rocket propelled grenades), firearms and the facility.
But, skeptics sputter, secular Saddam Hussein never would work with Osama bin Laden or other Islamic zealots. This argument foolishly ignores popularly elected Franklin Roosevelts alliance with genocidal dictator Josef Stalin to smash Adolf Hitler. Similarly, republican revolutionary George Washington and super-monarch Louis XVI collaborated to defeat Britains King George III. Why wouldnt Hussein and bin Laden similarly conspire to foil the Great Satan?
Moreover, the Butcher of Baghdad was not as secular as the no-connection crowd insists. He added Allahu Akbar (God is Great) to the Iraqi flag just before the 1991 Persian Gulf War. He also began to pray publicly to bolster his mosque-cred. Hayes cites a SENSITIVE August 22, 1995, UNSCOM interview with Hussein Kamel, the tyrants son-in-law who defected to Jordan that year. Kamel told U.N. weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus, The Government of Iraq is instigating fundamentalism in the country . . . Now Baath Party members have to pass a religious exam. He added: They even stopped party meetings for prayers.
Meanwhile, Dick Cheney gave Hayes a boost Wednesday. As the vice president told radio host Tony Snow: Steve Hayes is of the view and I think hes correct that a lot of those documents that were captured over there that have not yet been evaluated offer additional evidence that, in fact, there was a relationship that stretched over many years between Saddam Hussein and the al-Qaeda organization.
To its enormous detriment, Cheneys comments notwithstanding, the administration has been nearly silent about Husseins decades of collusion with Islamic terrorists. The worry, White House aides tell me, is that revealing these ties would generate media criticism and anti-war catcalls. Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita told Hayes that some reporters might discover exculpatory material among these papers, then wed spend a lot of time chasing around after it.
That risk does not excuse paralysis. If the president wrote MoveOn.org a $10,000 check, they would denounce his penmanship. Bushs detractors never stop complaining, so the administration simply should make its case. If handed the keys to Fort Knox, dont worry that someone might whine about the wallpaper. Grab the gold.
Administration officials also should remember that the United Nations Oil-for-Food scandal resembled an eccentric one-woman show when reporter Claudia Rosett began exposing it. Then the documents tumbled out. Rosett was vindicated and how! Worldwide probes, resignations, and criminal arrests followed as the contours of this $21 billion shakedown became clear.
Stephen Hayes similarly remains among the few journalists excavating this huge, deliberately concealed story. Now Newsweek has nibbled at the Iraq-terror connection. Other journalists should stop napping and demand that the White House finally document everything it can about Saddam Husseins multifarious links to terrorism.
Deroy Murdock is a New York-based a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a senior fellow with the Atlas Economic Research Foundation in Arlington, Va.. His research on Saddam Husseins support for Islamofascism appears at HUSSEINandTERROR.com.
MARCH 19, 2002 Tuesday : (TENET TESTIFIES BEFORE CONGRESS, DOES NOT RULE OUT STATE SPONSORSHIP OF 9/11 ATTACKS) CIA Director George J. Tenet, testifying before Congress last week, pointedly refused to rule out the possibility that Iraq or Iran may have been involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks on America. "There is no doubt that there may have been contacts and linkages to the al Qaeda organization," Mr. Tenet said when asked about Iraqi ties with Osama bin Laden's terror network. It "would be a mistake to dismiss the possibility of state sponsorship, whether Iranian or Iraqi" in connection with the attacks, the CIA director told the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday. "The distinctions between Sunni and Shia [Islamic denominations] that have traditionally divided terrorist groups are not distinctions you should make anymore, because there is a common interest against the United States and its allies in this region, and they will seek capability wherever they can get it," Mr. Tenet said. ---- "Still whitewashing Saddam , " The Washington Times, EDITORIAL , March 25, 2002
OCTOBER 7, 2002 : (CI A DIRECTOR TENET'S LETTER TO BOB GRAHAM, CHAIRMAN OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE) Regarding Senator Bayh's Evan Bayh, Democrat of Indiana question of Iraqi links to al-Qa'ida. Senators could draw from the following points for unclassified discussions:
Our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and al-Qa'ida is evolving and is based on sources of varying reliability. Some of the information we have received comes from detainees, including some of high rank.
We have solid reporting of senior level contacts between Iraq and al-Qa'ida going back a decade.
Credible information indicates that Iraq and al-Qa'ida have discussed safe haven and reciprocal nonaggression.
Since Operation Enduring Freedom, we have solid evidence of the presence in Iraq of al-Qa'ida members, including some that have been in Baghdad.
We have credible reporting that al-Qa'ida leaders sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire W.M.D. capabilities. The reporting also stated that Iraq has provided training to al-Qa'ida members in the areas of poisons and gases and making conventional bombs. Iraq's increasing support to extremist Palestinians coupled with growing indications of a relationship with al-Qa'ida, suggest that Baghdad's links to terrorists will increase, even absent U.S. military action."- Source : letter from CIA director Tenet to Bob Graham, chairman of the Intelligence Committee, Oct 7, 2002 via 34 posted on 03/23/2004 10:30:34 PM PST by kcvl
FEBRUARY 11, 2003 : (WASHINGTON, DC : SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HEARING : CIA DIRECTOR GEORGE TENET ON THE LINKAGE BETWEEN IRAQ AND AL QAEDA, INCLUDING IRAQ'S TRAINING OF AL QAEDA PERSONNEL IN DOCUMENT FORGERY, POISONS, GASSES & IN BOMBMAKING; TENET ALSO DISCUSSES THE DECISION OF RAISING OF THE TERROR THREAT LEVEL TO ORANGE AND THE PRESENCE OF AL QAEDA IN IRAQ AND IRAN) Senior Bush administration officials intensified the effort to make the case for military action against Saddam Hussein today, with testimony by Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and the director of central intelligence, George J. Tenet, linking Iraq and Al Qaeda. ...The hearing, an annual assessment of global threats, centered on Al Qaeda, Iraq and North Korea.... ...The administration's attempt to tie Iraq to Al Qaeda also included the most explicit public statement yet by Mr. Tenet, who told the Senate intelligence committee that intelligence officials had unearthed powerful evidence showing a connection.
Mr. Tenet's testimony was especially noteworthy because some Pentagon and White House officials had privately [* My note as in the usual "anonymous" way the press likes] complained that the C.I.A. was too reluctant to conclude there was an Iraq-Qaeda link.
Today Mr. Tenet said Iraq is "harboring" senior members of the Qaeda network like Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who, Mr. Tenet said, assembled a terror cell last year from a base of operations in Baghdad.....
For Mr. Tenet, who sat silently behind Mr. Powell on Feb. 5 when the secretary presented the Bush administration's case against Iraq to the United Nations Security Council, the hearing today presented the country's intelligence chief with his first opportunity to publicly assess the intelligence on Saddam Hussein's leadership.
Mr. Tenet said the C.I.A. had carefully worded its accusations about Iraq, but he strongly supported the Bush administration's conclusion that an Iraq-Qaeda link had been firmly established even as some European officials, and some intelligence analysts within his own agency, have expressed skepticism about whether the information showed a direct Iraqi tie to Al Qaeda.
"Iraq has in the past provided training in document forgery and bombmaking to Al Qaeda," Mr. Tenet said. "It has also provided training in poisons and gases to two Al Qaeda associates. One of these associates characterized the relationship he forged with Iraqi officials as successful."
Mr. Tenet seemed to be trying to rebut skeptics among the allies and within his own agency. "This information is based on a solid foundation of intelligence," he said. "It comes to us from credible and reliable sources. Much of it is corroborated by multiple sources, and it is consistent with the pattern of denial and deception exhibited by Saddam Hussein over the past 12 years."...
Mr. Tenet said Mr. bin Laden's followers appeared to focus their terror planning on specific regions. "The information we have points to plots aimed at targets on two fronts in the United States and on the Arabian peninsula," he said. "It points to plots timed to occur as early as the end of the hajj, which occurs late this week."
"And it points to plots that could include the use of a radiological dispersion device as well as poisons and chemicals," Mr. Tenet added, referring to devices like a "dirty bomb" that detonates with a conventional explosive, throwing radioactive material into the air. ... In his testimony, Mr. Tenet seemed to agree, defending the decision last Friday by the Bush administration to ratchet up the official threat level to Code Orange, saying it was based "not on idle chatter on the part of terrorists and their associates."
"It is the most specific we have seen, and it is consistent with both our knowledge of Qaeda doctrine and our knowledge of plots this network and particularly its senior leadership has been working on for years," Mr. Tenet said. "The intelligence community is working directly, and in real time, with friendly services overseas and with our law enforcement colleagues here at home to disrupt and capture specific individuals who may be part of this plot."
Mr. Tenet offered no further specifics about the plot, but his testimony reflected the rapidly rising tensions around the world in a period when the United States continues preparations for possible military action in Iraq, North Korea has threatened to resume its nuclear program and Iran has disclosed that it is nearly ready to enrich uranium to fuel its nuclear energy program.
"We see disturbing signs that Al Qaeda has established a presence in both Iran and Iraq," Mr. Tenet said. "In addition, we are concerned that Al Qaeda continues to find refuge in the hinterlands of Afghanistan and Pakistan." - "Top U.S. Officials Tell Lawmakers of Iraq-Qaeda Ties," By DAVID JOHNSTON, February 12, 2003 , http://iraqfoundation.org/news/2003/bfeb/12_ties.html
Fall victim to the MSM's dynamic duo, did you?
MARCH 20, 2002 Wednesday : (MAJOR PRESS OUTLETS NY TIMES & WASHINGTON POST DOWNPLAY CIA DIRECTOR TENET'S COMMENTS ON POSSIBLE STATE SPONSORSHIP OF 9/11 ATTACKS BY EXCLUDING THEM IN REPORTING OF HIS TESTIMONY) The CIA director's [Tuesday ] comments on possible state sponsorship of the September 11 attacks, reported in a separate story on the front page of this newspaper on Wednesday, didn't make it into accounts of his testimony published in The Washington Post or the New York Times that same day. It isn't difficult to see why this happens; many people in the mainstream media don't want to face the reality that Iraq or Iran may have had a hand in the butchery which took place on September 11. If it turns out that either of these regimes were involved, it would virtually ensure a vigorous U.S. military response against Tehran or Baghdad. That's a reality that many folks on the political left (and a few on the right) want to avoid at just about any cost. ---- "Still whitewashing Saddam , " The Washington Times, EDITORIAL , March 25, 2002
Secret Al Qaeda Papers?
Thursday, December 29, 2005
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," December 28, 2005, that has been edited for clarity.
MIKE GALLAGHER, GUEST CO-HOST: The Department of Defense has denied repeated requests from The Weekly Standard magazine to release unclassified documents recovered in post-war Iraq. The documents may offer new details about Saddam Hussein and his regime in the years before the war. The Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes has been leading the charge to get the documents. And he joins us now live.
Good evening, Stephen. Nice to have you with us.
STEPHEN HAYES, THE WEEKLY STANDARD: Hey, Mike. How are you?
GALLAGHER: I'm doing great. You know, you've been criticized a lot for your determined efforts to try to get these documents released. You maintain that these documents would establish a link and, in fact, would show that Saddam Hussein supported Al Qaeda. Why in the world wouldn't the Bush administration want those documents to be revealed, too?
HAYES: Well, and why would anybody criticize an effort to expose the world to documents that Saddam Hussein's regime created, that could tell us exactly what the regime was up to in the days and years leading up to the Iraq War in March of 203? It's like arguing against motherhood or something. It just doesn't make any sense.
GALLAGHER: So why wouldn't the Bush administration be first in line to say, "Heck, yes, we're going to give Stephen the documents so we can continue to make our case that this war is justified"?
HAYES: Well, I think two reasons. One was bureaucratic ineptitude. I don't think people had any sense, people at the senior levels of the Bush administration, really had a sense of what it was that was potentially in these documents.
You'll remember, you know, in March of 2003, April of 2003, we saw numerous stories about how documents were systematically destroyed. And I think there was this sense that there wasn't an urgency about exploiting these documents and releasing them to the public because perhaps all of the valuable information had been destroyed. Now, that turns out not to have been the case, at least from the people that I've spoken with who are familiar with the substance of the documents.
And I think the second reason is, sadly, the Bush administration was unwilling to have a fight with the CIA and other intelligence agencies about the contents of these documents. If Saddam was supporting trans-regional terrorists in a significant way, something that the CIA and the DIA had been skeptical about for more than a decade, do they want to have this fight on the front pages of The New York Times and The Washington Post?
ALAN COLMES, CO-HOST: Hey, Stephen, it's Alan Colmes.
HAYES: And the answer for a long time was no.
COLMES: You know, there are some great questions about the authenticity of lots of these documents. You yourself have acknowledged that in The Weekly Standard. So we don't know whether these documents are accurate.
You know the administration, if it could prove links between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein, they'd get it out there in a second if they knew they had the proof.
HAYES: Yes, actually, I disagree with your premise, as somebody who's been reporting on Iraq and Al Qaeda for quite some time. The administration seems not that eager to put out its best information...
COLMES: Well, then what are they covering up? Why wouldn't they want something out which buttressed the argument they've been trying to make about this war that they've been unable to prove?
HAYES: Well, as I say, I think, for a long time, it was this reluctance to engage in a front-page, you know, back-and-forth with the intelligence agencies. When you have the Bush administration on the one hand making arguments, you have unnamed intelligence officials on the other hand, "The Washington Post" and "The New York Times" tend to give credence to...
COLMES: Well, they've already said...
HAYES: ... these intelligence, unnamed intelligence officials.
COLMES: Bush has said the intelligence was flawed. He's already acknowledged that. The 9/11 commission said no operational link. There may have been contact between Saddam Hussein and Usama bin Laden or representatives of each. That may have happened. But no operational link has ever been proven. The 9/11 commission showed that to be true.
HAYES: Well, let me ask you, Alan. I mean how credible is the 9/11 commission's conclusion when they haven't seen some six million pages of documents that were created by the Iraqi regime?
COLMES: Well, how...
HAYES: Not very, in my view.
COLMES: You talk about documents that haven't been released. You talk about documents that some maybe forged or may not be accurate. You're talking about a situation where between, I think what years was it '98 and '04, 26 Arabic or Farsi translators were fired simply because they were gay, didn't even have and that's whey they fired them. They didn't even have enough translators to even know what's in these documents.
HAYES: Well, I don't disagree with you. Let's talk about what we actually know. The Defense Intelligence Agency has authenticated a document from 1992 in which the Iraqi intelligence service lists Usama bin Laden as an Iraqi intelligence asset.
Now, what does that tell us? Certainly nothing conclusive. But it seems to me that our intelligence community and journalists, certainly, should want to know more about why the Iraqi intelligence service considered bin Laden...
COLMES: Well, let's talk about that CIA assessment. Carl Levin, for example, as you yourself have pointed out, has released two short excerpts from that February of 2002 assessment by the DIA raising questions about the credibility of Al Qaeda senior officials who claimed that Iraq trained Al Qaeda in chemical and biological warfare. And you know that that's subject to dispute.
HAYES: Well, sure, some of this stuff is subject to dispute. My question is a very simple one. Why are we debating what the DIA said in 2002 when we could be debating what the Iraqi regime tells us from their own internal documents going back decades?
COLMES: Big if.
HAYES: It doesn't make any sense.
GALLAGHER: It seems to me, Stephen Hayes, you're doing just what a good journalist is supposed to do, keep fighting the fight. We'll see what happens. Maybe you'll be vindicated one day. Appreciate you joining us tonight.
GALLAGHER: Thank you.
STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH ....comin up very soon . President BUSH has been steadily building up the reasons , decisions , and concequences and non-concequences , of us taking the offencive , in the war on terrorist ( abroad and at home ).....I THINK HE IS GOING TO LAY SOME HEAVY DUTY STUFF OUT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE .....by-pass all the media , and blowhards , and TELL IT LIKE IT IS !.....hope i'm correct , have to wait and see.
Bush Understated Saddam's Threat
Front Page Magazine ^ | 12 January 2006 | Lt. Col. Gordon Cucullu
|Mohammed Atta||1/4/2001||Madrid, Spain|
|Mohammed Atta||7/7/2001||Zurich, Switzerland|
|Alshehhi||4/18/2001||Amsterdam, The Netherlands|
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Bumpity bump bump
The lights in the brains of Reid & Levin blinked out a long time ago. Their minds are made up. They can't cope with new information.
Where is Mr. Al-Ani today?
The Prague Post reported that Mr. Al-Ani now works for the Foreign Ministry in Baghdad. 
And this guy still works for the Iraqi government?
I'd say it's likely that we're still protecting the identity of a mole in Saddam's regime, and for good reason. The reason is so we can do this kind of operation again in the future. It's a tough job being the Prez; that's why we have a tough man in that job right now.
Notice how you never hear a word from the MSM that Iraq probably was involved in a terrorist attack against the US before the invasion (besides the first WTC attack that we know was sponsored by Iraq). We may have learned about this from an informant in Saddam's regime or through some high-tech communication intercepts. Now if Clinton had invaded Iraq, do you think we would have heard about likely Iraqi involvement in terrorism against the US, even if Clinton decided to keep this information classified? I think we would have heard a lot about it from the MSM and Dems in congress. But with Bush in the WH, you hear absolute silence.
Txsleuth calls him Hairball, which cracks me up all thru the day, every day, recalling it, from shower to tuck-in.
(wink...) Yes - a nice compilation, and I was certain to ping the original poster as well. :)
Great thread. Thanks for the ping. Thanks to all FReesearchers.
FYI: From Powerline (http://www.powerlineblog.com/)scroll down: Starting at noon today (again, central time) we'll be interviewing Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard, who has done more than anyone else to explore the many relationships between Saddam's Iraq and al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Among other things, we'll be talking about Steve's efforts to get access to the unclassified documents that contain a treasure trove of information on the Saddam-al Qaeda connection.
Vice-President Dick Cheney praised Steve's efforts on this topic just a few days ago; if you want to get the latest, inside dope, tune in tomorrow. I'm going to ask Steve why, if President Bush, Vice-President Cheney and Secretary Rumsfeld are all enthusiastic about his work, they can't make the Defense Department turn over the documents.
You can pick up the show anywhere in the world, off the web. Click on the Northern Alliance logo on our right sidebar, or go to the Patriot site linked above. We've had calls from as far away as China; don't hesitate to call if you have a question for Steve Hayes, or the rest of the gang.
It will be on the Northern Alliance Network
Here's the feed:
Thanks for the links.
Yes he does maintain that A-Q was not in Iraq. I've already gone around with him on this subject, but he doesn't want to believe what's in front of his nose. He's one of those people who hates Bush so much, he can't stand the prospect that Bush was right about Hussein.
And I have other friends and co-workers just like him (as I'm sure you do). They could have argued that Hussein was contained (he obviously wasn't), and no severe threat. Arguing as they do that he had no ties to Islamist terrorists just makes them look stupid. My friend is no dunce, but never underestimate the power of Bush-Rage.
I've seen it referred to as "BDS" -- Bush Derangement Syndrome.
And, yes, I've seen and heard its symptoms displayed -- within my own family.
A decade ago, I was known as a "Clinton-hater", of course. But, at bottom, I was able to rationally explain my profound distaste for Der Schlickmeister. There was no disputing the fact that he was "an untrustworthy liar". Indeed, to my leftist relatives, that was part of his "charm"...
But the animus toward Bush is simply visceral, unreasoning. And absolutely bulletproof. It can't be explained, nor can it be addressed.
Yes, Kennedy stated that GWB dreamed up the Iraq war while down in Texas. BOSTON - The case for going to war against Iraq was a fraud ``made up in Texas" to give Republicans a political boost, Sen. Edward Kennedy said Thursday.
I have another old friend with whom I had a conversation more than a year ago. We were talking sports and suddenly my friend went into a LOUD rant about what an evil, stupid person Bush was. I was taken aback for a second because politics was not even being discussed. I tried to delve into my friends train of thought, but all I could get were leftist talking points. Incidentally he voted for Nader. He's one of my friends who can never define exactly what he believes in, but only what he hates.
He thinks life is unfair to him (a lot of my Dem friends think that), and corporations, Republicans, and the undefined "they" are responsible for his misery.
Oh, I should add that my friend has more wealth than me, and I'm doing alright thank you very much. In fact many of the Bush-haters I know are doing extremely well. And most of them are socially conservative. I can't figure it out.
Life is so unfair!
It's the kind of complaint you hear from your juvenile and adolescent children.
I've noticed the same thing. Most of my Dem friends think the same thing -- and it's not necessarily about what life is doing to them, often it's about the "injustices" delivered on other people. The "poor", the "minorities", etc.
The left's concept of "fairness" has all the intellectual depth of an twelve-year old. Leads me to a belief that liberalism is a sign of immaturity...
The Libs "BIG LIE" is falling apart...
It's unfortunate that unless you can boil all that down into a single, easily shouted slogan, it's beyond the attention span of today's average Liberal...
All these reports attributed to the FBI were, as it turns out, erroneous. There were no car rental records in Virginia, Florida, or anywhere else in April 2001 for Mohamed Atta, since he had not yet obtained his Florida license.
His international license was at his father's home in Cairo, Egypt (where his roommate Marwan al-Shehhi picked it up in late April). Nor were there other records in the hands of the FBI that put Atta in the United States at the time. Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in June 2002, "It is possible that Atta traveled under an unknown alias" to "meet with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague." Clearly, it was not beyond the capabilities of the 9/11 hijackers to use aliases.
The only dispute over Atta's whereabouts is whether he was in Prague on April 9, 2001, to meet with Samir al Ani, an Iraqi intelligence officer. Czech intelligence insists he was. Able Danger, apparently, had information supporting the Czechs.
Don't worry about how the Moonbats react. As long as there's even one ordinary American witnessing the behavior -- their insane, delusional rants in response to hard evidence -- keep it up. Their denials and hatred just help make the case.
The left claims this is an airline training facility.
Hussein Kanaan & Mohammed Atta Prague ping
Farhan Atta... brother of Mohammed Atta [wonder where Farhan is now] ping
Thanks for the ping!
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