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Iranian Alert - January 13, 2006 - The EU3 Finally Ends Negotiations with Iran and their response
Regime Change Iran ^ | 1.13.2006 | DoctorZin

Posted on 01/13/2006 11:04:49 AM PST by DoctorZIn

Top News Story

The EU3 Finally Ends Negotiations with Iran.

  • The Financial Times reported that Iran’s defiant decision to resume what it calls “research” into nuclear enrichment spells the end of the negotiation strategy.
  • Reuters reported that China has offered to help rein in Iran's nuclear ambitions.
  • Tony Blankley, The Washington Times reported that when European diplomats use words like "serious," "grave," "disastrous," "red line for international community," "urge Iran to immediately and unconditionally reverse its decision," the rest of us should take these phrases as unambiguous evidence that an international crisis of the first water is fast building.
  • The Wall Street Journal reminds us of the UN's poor record of resolving the Iranian nuclear program.
  • Breitbart.com reminded us that Iran has secretly built as many as 5,000 centrifuge machines.
  • Reuters reported that Prime Minister Tony Blair called for the U.N. Security Council to consider action against Iran adding: "we obviously don't rule out any measures at all."

The Iranian Response.

  • Deutsche Presse-Agentur, Monsters & Critics reported that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said: 'The Iranian government and nation has no fear of the Western ballyhoo and will continue its nuclear programmes with decisiveness and wisdom.'
  • Iran Focus reported that Iran’s hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said: “In the near future, full nuclear energy for peaceful purposes will be at our disposal.”
  • Iranian Republic News Agency reported that former president Ayatollah Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said: "The arrogance and its allies will be regretful if they obstruct the Iranian nation's access to the latest science."
  • The Financial Times published a report on the head of Iran's nuclear negotiating team, Mr. Larijani.

Here are a few other news items you may have missed.

  • Iran Press News reported that the regimes brutal disciplinary forces, in the city of Ahvaz, harassed civilians chanting anti-regime slogans.
  • Amnesty International called for an inquiry needed in the death of Baha'i prisoner of conscience.
  • Iran Press News reported that the Islamic regimes brutal disciplinary forces attacked a party that was being held in one of Esfahans gardens and arrested 72 people.
  • Iran Press News reported that in the Islamic regime, homeless children eat out of garbage bins.
  • The Jerusalem Post reported that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was expected to convene a conference in Iran denying the Holocaust within a few days.
  • Michael Ledeen, National Review Online reminded us that we are already fighting Iran in Iraq.
  • Iran Press News reported that Iranian Commanders of the army alarmed by political changes in Syria & Lebanon.
  • Richard Brookhiser, The New York Observer looks at the world after Sharon: what to do about Iran?
  • Iran Press News reported on the sudden trip of Bolivian President-elect to Iran.
  • Rooz Online reported Haji Najjar, the acting director of the Political Bureau of the Joint Chief of Staff of the Passdaran Revolutionary Guards revealed that measures were underway to stockpile military preparedness and that there were “300 sensitive nuclear sites” in the country.
  • Shervin Omidvar, Rooz Online reported that Rahim Safavi, the commander of the Passdaran, when asked whether sabotage may have been the cause of the most recent air crash said, “Such a possibility has not been raised at this time."
  • Rooz Online reported on Ahmadinejad's hopeless quest for an auspicious Islamic government.
  • And finally, Cox & Forkum published a cartoon: Fallout.



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1 posted on 01/13/2006 11:04:56 AM PST by DoctorZIn
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To: DoctorZIn

The EU must not have any money invested in Iran.


2 posted on 01/13/2006 11:06:35 AM PST by American Quilter
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3 posted on 01/13/2006 11:06:49 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

This whole thing with Iran is happening faster and faster. I must admit it makes me a little uncomfortable.


4 posted on 01/13/2006 11:09:42 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: All

Iran wants to force a limited military attack on Iran by the west.

http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/2005/11/ahamdinejad-first-100-days.html


5 posted on 01/13/2006 11:12:17 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: pcottraux
I must admit it makes me a little uncomfortable.

Me too. I have to keep my emotions in check or they will run away with me. This can't continue the way it is. Something has to be done and quickly. I find myself praying for our military more than usual these days.

6 posted on 01/13/2006 11:17:17 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: DoctorZIn

What, is the EU going to taunt them again? Wow, maybe they will get serious and call in the UN...

We might as well get used to a nuclear Iran and all the danger that goes with it. George Bush can't even get enough support to eavesdrop on terrorists, I'm sure he is going to go to war with Iran.

We are screwed, thank you libs.


7 posted on 01/13/2006 11:41:47 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
George Bush can't even get enough support to eavesdrop on terrorists, I'm sure he is going to go to war with Iran.

George Bush won't give a damn about the liberals when push comes to shove and protecting us.

8 posted on 01/13/2006 11:48:47 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

I know he will want too, but unless they launch on us, congress will never let it happen.


9 posted on 01/13/2006 11:50:43 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: pcottraux

Ditto those thoughts! Someone better find the brake peddle over in Terhan.


10 posted on 01/13/2006 11:53:01 AM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: A.Hun
I don't think they'll have to launch first. The entire world is worried about Iran going nuclear. It's not just us anymore. Their survival depends on us. They won't stab us in the back this time, they can't afford too.

I don't see a problem with congress. The problem lies with the senate. Bush will get the support he needs from them when the time comes.

11 posted on 01/13/2006 11:55:11 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: mr_hammer

Fanatics don't have breaks.


12 posted on 01/13/2006 11:56:31 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A.Hun

I don't think so, my guts tell me the American Public is on a hair trigger and will have no problem pulling it contrary to the whinning lib's in the press.

Proof is in the fact that the Left has not landed a punch on the President in almost six years.


13 posted on 01/13/2006 11:57:10 AM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: mr_hammer; pbrown

Don't get me wrong, GWB isn't bashful.

But the EU or the UN is not going to back any kind of military action at all and Iran is too far away for Israel to strike effectively.

I do disagree about the public backing another war at this time. The Senate and Congress would not authorize it unless we were directly threatened, and it will be years before Iran has ICBMs.

I don't think it is on the President's agenda either, or instead of 160,000 troops in Iraq, we would have 460,000.

Armed conflict with Iran will have to wait until the next President. It will happen eventually though.


14 posted on 01/13/2006 12:07:12 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

They don't need ICBM's to reach Israel or any of their neighbors. They've honed their Shahab 3 an advanced IRBM. Won't those reach their neighbors? How far is Israel from Iran?


15 posted on 01/13/2006 12:21:04 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A.Hun
I found this...

Its supreme ruler, Ali Khamenei, and Defense Minister Ali Shamkhani have made statements that cannot be interpreted as other than aggressive. A model of the Shihab-3 missile — whose range, coincidentally, is equal to the distance between Iran and Israel — was presented in one of Iran’s military parades as destined for Tel Aviv.

I guess I answered my own question, huh...

16 posted on 01/13/2006 12:30:07 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: DoctorZIn
In my opinion, Bush isn't going to bail out the Europeans over this. First, the Europeans told the US to stay out of the negotiatians. Second, the Europeans thought Bush was heavy handed in the Iraqi negotiatians, and they may have even set him up with false intelligence info.

There isn't any evidence that the Iranians are years-close to atomic weapons, but rather decades away from developing them. If Russia decides to give them the technology, then that is another story.

Bush doesn't need to spend what ever political capital he has left fighting Congress (Senate) over this. Should the next President be a liberal, then without a doubt Iran will re-double their efforts to develop atomic weapons. The free world will see a lot of Washington knashing of teeth, but, the Europeans are the ones to worry, as a crackpot Iranian despot can deliver a bomb to Europe, but hardly here. The US would then take out Iran of course, but the Europeans would be the ones to pay for their folly. The US doesn't need to be the world's policeman anymore, especially the way the Arabs and Europeans castigate us daily.

17 posted on 01/13/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by khenrich (Hillary is changing her colors. She's a chameleon. No, she's a liberal.)
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To: pbrown

Yes pbrown, they can hit Israel, and it won't be long before they could hit Europe.

I just don't think we would do anything unless they threatened us directly.

Israel is estimated to have a stockpile of 50 nukes and the delivery system to get them anywhere in the Arab world. It would be a mistake for Iran to try anything with Israel, but this new President is crazy.


18 posted on 01/13/2006 2:08:00 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: DoctorZIn

Please remove me from the ping list

Thank You!


20 posted on 01/13/2006 8:44:37 PM PST by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: Khashayar

Done!


21 posted on 01/13/2006 9:37:13 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

The trouble as I see it is that Iran
can hit US forces in the Middle East
with nukes should they get them. They can
claim they are legitimate military targets.
America is not prepared to lose a naval task
force or fifty thousand troops to a Iranian
nuke sneak attack.


22 posted on 01/13/2006 9:44:05 PM PST by StormEye
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To: A.Hun
>>>I don't think it is on the President's agenda either, or instead of 160,000 troops in Iraq, we would have 460,000.<<<

Which is the obvious best argument that we will not fight Iran with a conventional war....ie: tanks, planes and infantry.

Any war with Iran, whether by us or Israel, will be "non-conventional", a decapitation strike of immense proportions.

23 posted on 01/13/2006 9:51:40 PM PST by HardStarboard
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24 posted on 01/14/2006 12:14:22 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: khenrich
Has anyone thought of those nut cases making a dirty bomb and smuggling into a major metropolis and detonating it there?

As history as taught us, the terrorist use rather innocuous items to wreak their jihad terror.?

No need for a brand new shinny missile, a beat up container truck will do just fine.
25 posted on 01/14/2006 7:43:29 AM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: HardStarboard

That is certainly an option. Watch for deployment of carrier battle goups to the area for a tip off.

My gravest concern is that the Iranian nuclear sites are so hardened that no conventional weapons would take them out completely. I don't see us ever using nukes for a preemptive strike , which would leave conventional ground forces to eliminate the sites.

I would expect Iran to retaliate against our troops in Iraq in any case. We would have to have more troops on the ground in Iraq even if we go after Iran with an unconventional strike.

We, and the Israelis, do have options. But, I will stick by my original point...the mood in the nation after four years of smearing Bush over Iraq will not let us do a thing. Politically, it won't happen. We can thank the idiots in the MSM and the Dim party for that.

Look for a year of trying to get sanctions in the UN, by then, Iran will have the nukes and will dare us to hit them.


26 posted on 01/14/2006 7:46:56 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: mr_hammer
Has anyone thought of those nut cases making a dirty bomb and smuggling into a major metropolis and detonating it there?

Sure, that would work, but dirty bombs are less potent, and require nuclear waste. They have to get to nuclear first.

Bush has burned too many times over what-ifs. I think he will lead Congress to the alter this time, and let them decide what they want to do.

27 posted on 01/14/2006 8:16:07 PM PST by khenrich (Harry Reid, whatever happened to the truth?)
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