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Calif. Governor Has No Mercy for Inmate [Schwarzenegger on Friday denied Allen clemency...]
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Posted on 01/13/2006 3:04:47 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Calif. Governor Has No Mercy for Inmate

By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

California's oldest death row inmate — a 75-year-old who is legally blind and nearly deaf — is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to do something it has never done before: block an execution because of the condemned man's advanced age and infirmity.

Clarence Ray Allen's attorneys contend that executing a feeble old man amounts to cruel and unusual punishment banned by the U.S. Constitution.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday denied Allen clemency. Barring a last-minute reprieve by the courts, the governor's decision means Allen will become the second-oldest person put to death since the U.S. Supreme Court allowed capital punishment to resume in 1976.

He is set to die by injection Tuesday for ordering three slayings while behind bars for another murder.

Allen, who turns 76 on the eve of his execution, has been on death row for more than 23 years. He often uses a wheelchair and had to be resuscitated after suffering a heart attack last year at San Quentin Prison.

"The spectacle of Mr. Allen being wheeled into the death chamber, unable to walk and unable to see those who have come to witness his execution, violates all standards of decency and would amount to nothing more than the purposeless and needless imposition of pain and suffering prohibited by the Eighth Amendment," said Annette Carnegie, one of Allen's attorneys.

Schwarzenegger said Allen's age and health did not matter and noted that he committed his crimes at the age of 50. "His conduct did not result from youth or inexperience, but instead resulted from the hardened and calculating decisions of a mature man."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: adiosmofo; arnold; clarencerayallen; deathpenalty; governator; happybirthdayallen; noclemency; schwarzenegger
tough..
1 posted on 01/13/2006 3:04:50 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, Allen had no sympathy for his victims.


2 posted on 01/13/2006 3:06:23 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Sub-Driver

Did this murderer extend "mercy" on who he murdered?

Then WHY should there be "mercy" for him?


3 posted on 01/13/2006 3:06:39 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Sub-Driver

but wait I thought Ahnold was a racist.


4 posted on 01/13/2006 3:06:40 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: Sub-Driver

"Barring a last-minute reprieve by the courts, the governor's decision means Allen will become the second-oldest person put to death..."

Not our fault. Blame it on the ACLU. He should have died 23 years ago. Lots of borrowed time for this convict.


5 posted on 01/13/2006 3:08:56 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The LSM is getting less and less shy by the day about editorializing in its headlines.
6 posted on 01/13/2006 3:09:00 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Sub-Driver
"He is set to die by injection Tuesday for ordering three slayings while behind bars for another murder."

UNREPENDENT for the murder he was in prison for and then while IN PRISON - ORDERS THREE MORE SLAYINGS?

And they want MERCY for this monster?

Just hand me the needle. I'll inject him for free with no fanfare.
7 posted on 01/13/2006 3:09:11 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Sub-Driver

He wouldn't be old and feeble now if he had been executed years ago like he should've been.


8 posted on 01/13/2006 3:10:57 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Sub-Driver
and had to be resuscitated after suffering a heart attack last year at San Quentin Prison.

I'll bet noone on death row has a DNR order. After all, they're all innocent.

9 posted on 01/13/2006 3:11:02 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He is being executed because he was involved in murder of three witnesses while in jail for another murder. The only reason he is old and sick is that California does not carry out executions until 25 years have elapsed.


10 posted on 01/13/2006 3:15:01 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: nmh

Only God can have mercy on this man.


11 posted on 01/13/2006 3:16:31 PM PST by willyd (No nation has ever taxed its citizens into prosperity)
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To: Sub-Driver
Allen, who turns 76 on the eve of his execution, has been on death row for more than 23 years. He often uses a wheelchair and had to be resuscitated after suffering a heart attack last year at San Quentin Prison.

Ha, ha, ha. They should let him die and save our tax money.
12 posted on 01/13/2006 3:17:10 PM PST by jamesm51
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To: Sub-Driver

They shoot horses don't they?


13 posted on 01/13/2006 3:19:48 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: willyd

Very true ... and while on this earth he needs to take his punishment like a man.


14 posted on 01/13/2006 3:20:30 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: mtbopfuyn

Exactly. Did the victims youth matter to him when he had them snuffed out?


15 posted on 01/13/2006 3:21:37 PM PST by Tabi Katz
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To: Sub-Driver
The brother of one of Allen's victims said the arguments in favor of sparing the killer's life are nonsensical. Robert Rocha — whose sister, Josephine, was murdered at a Fresno market in 1980 by a hitman Allen hired — said Allen's repeated appeals are the only reason he is old and frail.

"Mr. Allen feels he is too old to die," Rocha said. "We feel Josephine was too young to die. She was only 17 when she was taken from us and murdered."

Well said!

16 posted on 01/13/2006 3:24:18 PM PST by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: Sub-Driver

New definition of Chutzpah is to fight your death penalty sentence tooth and nail for years and years and claim old age when you run out of time.


17 posted on 01/13/2006 3:28:32 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Sub-Driver

I think the electric chair should be brought back. It was better when their heads burst into perdition's flames.


18 posted on 01/13/2006 3:31:09 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Republicus2001
but wait I thought Ahnold was a racist.

He's a racist and hates old people with disabilities. Obviously.

19 posted on 01/13/2006 3:32:17 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Sub-Driver

Bravo Governor Schwarzenegger.


20 posted on 01/13/2006 3:40:58 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Sub-Driver

Way to go Arnold.


21 posted on 01/13/2006 3:41:53 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: nmh

Actually, one report I read stated he had in fact ordered EIGHT slayings and only three were carried out.


22 posted on 01/13/2006 3:45:09 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Conservatives know the names of Tookie's VICTIMS!!)
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To: Amerigomag
He's a racist and hates old people with disabilities. Obviously.

Nope.

Governor Schwarzenegger only turns a deaf ear to old folks without taxable income, a category into which Mr. Allen fits.

23 posted on 01/13/2006 3:45:57 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Sub-Driver

i'm glad... his being "elderly" ought to have nothing to do with it...


24 posted on 01/13/2006 3:48:08 PM PST by latina4dubya
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To: Sub-Driver

Paging Jack Kevorkian, paging Dr. Kevorkian. Please report to the Green Room to begin the prep work. Dr. Kevorkian to the Green Room, stat.


25 posted on 01/13/2006 4:13:05 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Sub-Driver

Alright AHNOLD! You're gettin' tough, man. AHNOLD's on a roll!


26 posted on 01/13/2006 4:16:58 PM PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: Sub-Driver

I don't get this one.

He's dying anyway so he shouldn't be put to death.

While we're on the subject of death, why isn't it humane to starve and dehydrate someone rather than putting them down quickly with an injection -- as in the Schiavo-Schindler debate last year.

Certainly that would be considered an inhumane way for a convicted killer to die -- yet it is considered humane for the innocent. The libs and Dems need to get their shit together on this.

They just seem to be totally confused about everything these days. They've been listening to the ACLU for too long those people are beginning to make sense.


27 posted on 01/13/2006 4:23:07 PM PST by MikeHu
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To: willyd

Exactly. It would be nice if he repented and asked God for mercy first, of course - the man was a vicious, totally unrepentant killer who killed people who trusted him and who should have been put to death after his first killing (which would have saved the innocent folks that he killed later or ordered killed from jail).

Tookie was a bigger media star but also unrepentant. Once upon a time, a priest would come and tell people to repent and the true glory was when they repented before being put to death. The real punishment is not just the first death - but the eternal death, Hell.

One never knows: "Between the saddle and the ground, was mercy sought and mercy found." Maybe these guys repented/will repent. We should pray that they do or did. But they still are unfit and too dangerous to live among us, and all we can pray for is their repentance.


28 posted on 01/13/2006 4:24:10 PM PST by livius
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To: Sub-Driver

The only reason he is old and infirm, is that he sat on death row, being taken care of, for 23 yrs...he got to eat, sleep, read, enjoy his life prison...his victims never had a chance to enjoy anymore of their lives...

Its a travesty that death row inmates sit on death row for decades, while the families of the ones that they killed, suffer all the more, when these death row inmates raise a stink about how unfair it is to execute them...


29 posted on 01/13/2006 4:31:53 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Sub-Driver

This guy put out a hit while already in prison. Good enough reason to execute him no matter his age or infirmity. He'll not commit another crime


30 posted on 01/13/2006 4:48:58 PM PST by Figment
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To: BunnySlippers; Republicus2001

>but wait I thought Ahnold was a racist.

>He's a racist and hates old people with disabilities. >Obviously.

Especially if they claim to have Indian blood (Allen claims to be part Choctaw and part Cherokee). And Arnold won't let him off. Coincidence? You decide...


31 posted on 01/13/2006 4:55:58 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: Sub-Driver



David Kravits misses the point. The issue has nothing to do with mercy. It has everything to do with justice. To assume Governor Schwarzenegger has no mercy simply because he did not grant this convicted murderer reprieve is ignorant.

I believe that in this case, justice will be met.









32 posted on 01/13/2006 4:57:41 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: Sub-Driver

The victims MUST have MINIMUM success, the perps MUST have MAXIMUM success. See? It worked again. And the Guv seconded it.


33 posted on 01/13/2006 5:23:09 PM PST by Waco
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To: BunnySlippers
This guy's actually part Choctaw Indian and yet you don't see Jesse Jackson flying in, do you?


34 posted on 01/13/2006 5:39:38 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Halt W's illegals' amnesty. Get GOP elected statewide in CA.)
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To: bkwells; All

His 76th birthday is Monday. A few minutes after that day ends, his sentence is scheduled to be carried out.


35 posted on 01/13/2006 5:41:54 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Halt W's illegals' amnesty. Get GOP elected statewide in CA.)
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To: All
I was looking at sentencing dates and Allen's comes later than seven other people whose sentences were affirmed by the courts. Anyone know how these executions are scheduled?

Clarence Allen 11.22.1980
Fermin Ledesma 3.14.1980
Donald Griffin 12.04.1980
Michael Mattson 4.10.1980
Richard Philips 2.20.1980
Marcelino Ramos 1.30.1980
Alejandro Ruiz 2.26.1980
Melvin Turner 8.25.1980
Marvin Walker 9.08.1980
36 posted on 01/13/2006 6:00:10 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Halt W's illegals' amnesty. Get GOP elected statewide in CA.)
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To: Sub-Driver

He is set to die by injection Tuesday for ordering three slayings while behind bars for another murder.


----Where is Jesse? Mike? Sean? Al? Anybody out there gonna defend this murderer?


37 posted on 01/13/2006 11:16:24 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: Sub-Driver
There's not something you see every day: chutzpah for blocking justice for decades and then demanding your life should be spared because you're too old to be executed. Age is irrelevant as much race. A murderer should be executed to uphold the law and to give meaning to the lives of the victims. They didn't get to live to see their old age. Clarence Ray Allen should have been put to death 20 years ago and he needs to be executed for the sake of justice.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

38 posted on 01/15/2006 4:01:12 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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