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Schwarzenegger's re - election chances up
The Argus ^ | Jan. 13, 2005 | Steve Geissinger

Posted on 01/13/2006 4:35:43 PM PST by FairOpinion

A recent poll shows the born-again "moderate" Republican governor has gained back some popularity, especially in the Bay Area, and is now in a dead heat with Democratic competitors.

"Our survey demonstrates that Schwarzenegger's retreat from the more conservative rhetoric and agenda he brandished during the latter part of 2005 has paid off among middle-of-the road voters," said Melinda Jackson, director of the Survey and Policy Research Institute at San Jose State University.

The governor's job performance rating among voters in a Democrat-leaning state has climbed from 36 percent positive and 53 percent negative in September, to 40 percent positive and 51 percent negative this month.

(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; arnoldpoll; cagop; calgov2006; california; camilk; popularity; republicrat; rino; schwarzenegger; sjsu; sjsupoll
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If a Dem gets elected, they will show how you turn a Golden State permanently into a third world country.
1 posted on 01/13/2006 4:35:44 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

The RINOs did it first.


2 posted on 01/13/2006 4:57:10 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Not completely. Not yet.
If Arnold's not re-elected, what do you think the chances of McClintock are for Lt Gov?


3 posted on 01/13/2006 5:09:30 PM PST by b9
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Alternative headline:
GOVERNOR LOSES 19% OF REPUBLICAN BASE

http://www2.sjsu.edu/spri/06survey/calpoliticalrelease1.pdf

Support for Schwarzenegger’s re-election has dropped since September when 36% of voters said they would vote for the governor and 49% said they would vote against him. This reflects the growing disapproval among the governor’s Republican base, 69% of whom said they would vote to re-elect him in September, versus only 50% now.


4 posted on 01/13/2006 5:11:23 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

Seriously, how can McClintock win if a dem gov gets elected?


5 posted on 01/13/2006 5:13:22 PM PST by b9
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To: fieldmarshaldj; FairOpinion

Ooops, sorry Marshal, I meant to make that a reply to Fair Opinion.

Read the survey here:
http://www2.sjsu.edu/spri/06survey/calpoliticalrelease1.pdf


6 posted on 01/13/2006 5:13:22 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: doodlelady

Last I looked, they are separate elections. ;-)


7 posted on 01/13/2006 5:16:16 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

So you'd vote McClintock for Lt Gov and for Gov....a dem?
Or abstain for gov, which means...a dem?


8 posted on 01/13/2006 5:20:39 PM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady; calcowgirl

How 'bout getting McClintock to switch races ? It's time for liberals to be out of the Governorship for good.


9 posted on 01/13/2006 5:23:54 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: doodlelady

We haven't had a non-liberal/RINO Governor since George Deukmejian.


10 posted on 01/13/2006 5:25:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; ElkGroveDan

I think he's locked into the Lt Gov position...ask Elk Grove Dan

Of course, if Arnold pulled out (very small chance), who knows.


11 posted on 01/13/2006 5:26:00 PM PST by b9
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To: doodlelady

At this point, I am hoping for more choices.
When push comes to shove, I will vote for the most conservative candidate.
Arnold is proving that that does not necessarily mean a Republican.

I have never voted for a democrat before, but Arnold is proving to be no different than them.


12 posted on 01/13/2006 5:27:12 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: doodlelady

"Seriously, how can McClintock win if a dem gov gets elected?"

Real simple, Republicans like me won't vote for Arnold under any circumstances and will vote for McClintock.


13 posted on 01/13/2006 5:29:43 PM PST by dalereed
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To: calcowgirl

"growing disapproval among the governor’s Republican base"

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Is that the Republican base who couldn't bother to turn out and vote for parental notification, and for the "live within our means" proposition, two major conservative ideas?
And they call Arnold RINO?!

What do you call Republicans who vote against spending cuts and against parental notification?


14 posted on 01/13/2006 5:30:25 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: calcowgirl

I just could NOT vote dem...ever.

Some on FR are encouraging a dem vote for Juan Vargas down here in Chula Vista against Bob Filner, but Vargas is still hard core dem.


15 posted on 01/13/2006 5:31:32 PM PST by b9
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To: FairOpinion

How dare Arnold demostrate Republican ideas! He didn't demostrate many but to hear liberals tell it you would think he was as far right as a person could get. I need to get out of this state, soon!


16 posted on 01/13/2006 5:31:53 PM PST by calex59
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To: dalereed

And 90% of the California voters will NOT vote for McClintock no matter what. So guess who is going to get elected? Certainly NOT McClintock.


17 posted on 01/13/2006 5:32:21 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: dalereed

Will you just abstain for gov then?

I just can't see facilitating a dem gov.


18 posted on 01/13/2006 5:33:24 PM PST by b9
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To: FairOpinion
The CAGOP needs to dump Schwarzenegger. Continuing to support Schwarzenegger is simply going to enhance the damage his liberal policies have already wrought upon the state and its electorate.

Someone should step up to compete in the Republican primary. A moderate Republican would get the support of conservatives (about 35% of the Republican Party and 15% of the electorate), a support that Schwarzenegger couldn't overcome.

A Republican moderate would be competitive in the general election because of the weakness of the Democrat opponent. Both conservative Democrats and all but blindly loyal Republicans are realizing the damage that Schwarzenegger and his Democrat allies in the Legislature have done to the state's finances. By design, The 2006-2007 budget won't be finalized before the primary. They red ink and liberal giveaways would wipe out any chance Schwarzenegger might have, in spite of CAGOP support.

19 posted on 01/13/2006 5:35:31 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: FairOpinion
"And 90% of the California voters will NOT vote for McClintock no matter what."

Where do you get the nerve to make such an outrageously false claim like that, bud ?

20 posted on 01/13/2006 5:35:31 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: calcowgirl
Alternative headline: ...

If you have your way Arnie will be defeated. By your side, demoncraps.

21 posted on 01/13/2006 5:35:54 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: doodlelady

For a conservative to NOT vote, IS EQUAL to voting Democrat. It's painfully obvious.

Of course, if people just PRETEND to be conservatives... to bamboozle other conservatives into not voting so a Dem can get elected, all of a sudden it all makes sense, doesn't it?


22 posted on 01/13/2006 5:36:13 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: fieldmarshaldj

"Where do you get the nerve to make such an outrageously false claim like that, bud ?"

=====

AND
Where do YOU get the nerve to make such an outrageously false claim like that, bud ?" claims such as McClintock has an actual chance of getting elected governor in CA.

I look at history and demographics of CA. There are NO Republicans in a single state electected office, with the exception of Arnold. Please explain in detail what reasoning lead YOU to make claims that a conservative could get elected governor in CA?


23 posted on 01/13/2006 5:39:18 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
And 90% of the California voters will NOT vote for McClintock no matter what.

Once again you are making a fool of yourself.

24 posted on 01/13/2006 5:39:44 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ElkGroveDan

See my post 23.


25 posted on 01/13/2006 5:40:14 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl
"If a Dem gets elected, they will show how you turn a Golden State permanently into a third world country."

(D) or (R)ino Arnold = Same Leftist Target with only slight difference in mode of transporation to get there.

I have yet to find a conservative in OC who plans to vote again for your man Arnold the Magnificent.

The outlook is not good. He won't win without conservatives. Of course with his hard charge leftward, he may pick up enough flotsam and jetsam to make up the difference.

I see the Governor's Office has extended your contract to continue flacking for Arnold.

26 posted on 01/13/2006 5:41:59 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: FairOpinion
s that the Republican base who couldn't bother to turn out and vote for parental notification, and for the "live within our means" proposition, two major conservative ideas? And they call Arnold RINO?!

The republican base turned out, I really get tired of hearing this sh**. WE, the republicans of CA turned out to vote but we were defeated by the Dems who outnumber us. The red counties all voted for the props, including Orange country. If every republican in CA had turned out the props would still have been defeated.

The dems mounted a massive campaign and had the props defeated before the election was held. Blame the Unions and other liberal organizations for the lies and BS told about all the props. Don't blame the republican base, you might as well blame us for not winning the state for Bush in both his elections.

WE ARE OUT NUMBERED, what part of there are more dems than republicans in CA don't you understand?

All of you whiners need to understand that until we somehow get all the welfare queens and other entitlement people to vote republican we are not going to win in CA.

27 posted on 01/13/2006 5:42:40 PM PST by calex59
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To: FairOpinion

I understand the frustration of not wanting to support Arnold anymore.

But I could never let my precious vote, or non vote, elect a dem.



28 posted on 01/13/2006 5:42:52 PM PST by b9
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To: FairOpinion
Please explain in detail what reasoning lead YOU to make claims that a conservative could get elected governor in CA?

Other than Arnold, who won in unusual and rare circumstances, what reasoning leads you to make claims that a liberal Republican can elected to a statewide office in CA?

29 posted on 01/13/2006 5:43:44 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Where do you get the nerv

The CAGOP has adopted the attitude of paternal wisom. As the politcal elite at the top of the foodchain, they know what's best for the faithful. They don't consider their untenable positions to be outrageous, they're simply wise and we, the electorate, had better understand that or they will withdraw that elite wisdom.

30 posted on 01/13/2006 5:44:02 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: FairOpinion
What do you call Republicans who support a liberal? Have you read any current events lately, FO? Why do you support this man, unless it is to further your pro-leftist agenda?

Recommended reading (from this week only!)

CA: Full retreat - Governor embraces debt he used to abhor

CA: Analyst: Budget proposal goes in 'wrong direction'

CA: Governor Proposes Minimum Wage Hike

Dan Walters: Governor complains about autopilot spending but embraces it

"It's Official!" CPUC Approves $3.2 Billion Solar Program (Arnold's plan)

Governor's budget would make a tax hike likely

Governor's Bond Plan Would Monopolize State's Debt for More than a Decade

CA: Analyst says governor's budget moves state in wrong direction

Budget is governor's best yet, Democrats say - But leaders vow fight against some proposals

Dan Walters: Schwarzenegger may have given up on balancing state's budget

Arnold the spender - Governor's budget makes dicey assumptions

As far as the eye can see (the legacy of Schwarzenegger) [DEFICITS]

CA: Governor unveils 2006-07 budget ($125.6 billion)


31 posted on 01/13/2006 5:44:05 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calex59

"The republican base turned out"


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NOT true. There was a much lower turnout in conservative areas.


32 posted on 01/13/2006 5:45:45 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: ElkGroveDan
who won in unusual and rare circumstances

And I might add, feigning to be a conservative.

33 posted on 01/13/2006 5:46:02 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: calcowgirl
At this point, I am hoping for more choices.

It may be too soon to tell.

34 posted on 01/13/2006 5:46:31 PM PST by b9
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To: FairOpinion
There are NO Republicans in a single state electected office, with the exception of Arnold.

Arnold has never been nominated and elected under California's usual process. Besides, Arnold is not a Republican (a check-box, does not, a partisan make). Arnold has never been nominated by Republicans in any election.

35 posted on 01/13/2006 5:47:42 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: FairOpinion
Why don't you get a grip and look at the figures for the 2002 Election:

Bill Simon, Jr. - 3,169,801 (42%) Governor

Bruce McPherson - 3,094,392 (42%) Lieutenant Governor

Keith Olberg - 3,070,879 (42%) Secretary of State

Tom McClintock - 3,273,028 (45%) Controller <-----

Greg Conlon - 2,914,138 (41%) Treasurer

Dick Ackerman - 2,920,752 (40%) Attorney General

Gary Mendoza - 2,998,243 (42%) Insurance Commissioner

McClintock was the HIGHEST vote getter for the Republicans in the state for the 2002 election, losing by all of 16,000 votes out of 5.8 million in that race after being outspent by a fortune. Stop posting liberal DU/RINO lies and propaganda and get your FACTS straight, FO.

36 posted on 01/13/2006 5:49:05 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: 68 grunt

See post 31.


37 posted on 01/13/2006 5:49:10 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion
And 90% of the California voters will NOT vote for McClintock no matter what.

ROFL! Maybe 90% of your little hate-McClintock crowd, but polls for the last two years have proven you wrong.

Where, oh, where, do you get this cr@p? [Never mind... don't answer that]

38 posted on 01/13/2006 5:50:55 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion
NOT true. There was a much lower turnout in conservative areas.

For those not familiar with this CAGOP red herring, the partisan statistics from the November election, supporting any claim about partisan participation, are yet to be publish by the CASoS.

39 posted on 01/13/2006 5:51:15 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: ElkGroveDan
As I said, Republicans that those who win the Republican party nomination CANNOT WIN a state wide office in CA.

THAT was exactly my point, when I said that with the exception of Arnold, NO Republicans have been elected to a statewide office.

So the Republicans keep running ultraconservatives with zero charisma and they keep losing. Then they do it again and again.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. "
Albert Einstein

40 posted on 01/13/2006 5:52:50 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Amerigomag

That kind of elitism ain't going on just in California. Of course, those same elites prefer liberal Democrats to right-of-center Republicans in office, anyhow. Perhaps it is time to form our own party for the people, how 'bout calling it the REPUBLICAN party ? ;-)


41 posted on 01/13/2006 5:53:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: FairOpinion
"So the Republicans keep running ultraconservatives with zero charisma and they keep losing. Then they do it again and again."

Who are these ultraconservatives, oh delusional one ? Oh, wait... you mean McClintock, the HIGHEST VOTE GETTER FOR THE REPUBLICANS IN 2002 ?

42 posted on 01/13/2006 5:56:57 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: calcowgirl
Funny you didn't include THIS article:

Surging revenues highlight governor's budget (Schwarzenegger, CA)

California's tax revenues are surging ahead of expectations, giving an election-year jolt to the state budget and providing more money for public schools, health services and higher education, according to a budget proposed Tuesday by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. The governor, a Republican, revealed a $125.6 billion spending plan for the 2006-2007 fiscal year that does not raise taxes while providing a 7 percent boost in spending over this fiscal year.

The plan also marks the first time in several years that the state projects enough tax revenue to cover spending without significant borrowing, a reversal from budget deficits that reached into the billions before Schwarzenegger took office.

Among its highlights, the governor's spending plan:

Does not raise taxes.

Reduces the state's structural deficit by more than two-thirds, from $16.5 billion when Schwarzenegger took office in 2003 to $4.7 billion in the next fiscal year.

43 posted on 01/13/2006 5:57:29 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

True, they turned out in numbers to be expected. The DEMS outnumber us, remember that, keep repeating it to yourself and maybe you will get it. Also, people(republicans) are not pleased with Arnolds performance, a republican should hold to republican values. I am tired of Arnold lovers trying to tell us that the republican base is causing his problems. Arnold is causing Arnolds problems, period.


44 posted on 01/13/2006 5:59:09 PM PST by calex59
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To: FairOpinion

I don't get the impression that you are so much pro-Arnold as you are pro-progress, which no dem will EVER provide.


45 posted on 01/13/2006 5:59:46 PM PST by b9
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Perhaps it is time to form our own party for the people

Nope.

Just keep doing what we're doing. Everytime a CAGOP shill like FairOpinon shows up on a conservative form, treat them to an exorcism.

Sooner or later the electorate will figure out that the king has no clothing and we'll toss the bumbs out.

In the meantime, keep flashing your wooden cross in the face of these shills.

46 posted on 01/13/2006 6:00:55 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: FairOpinion; Amerigomag
Funny you didn't include THIS article:
Surging revenues highlight governor's budget (Schwarzenegger, CA)
You're right, I didn't include it--because Revenues AREN'T surging! I'm waiting for the media to acknowledge that the revenue increases are largely the result of Arnold introducing a tax amnesty program thereby receiving (temporary) tax collections, the majority of which will have to be paid back in future years. This is clearly exposed in the Legislative Analyst's Report published yesterday, the same Analyst who says Arnold's budget is moving in the wrong direction. (It is also also discussed in the threads on the recommended reading list I gave you).

And in true liberal (and Gray Davis) fashion, he is proposing to use those dollars to fund recurring state social programs, including 1/2 Billion for his Prop 49 After-school-programs (Government Babysitting).

47 posted on 01/13/2006 6:05:54 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Control yourself. Don't repond. FairOpinion is one of the few people in California that doesn't understand the "no taxes" and "surging revenue" myths being promoted by Schwarzenegger.

Also, whatever you do, don't suggest that FairOpinon read the LAO report. She might melt. We'd only be left with her ruby slippers.

48 posted on 01/13/2006 6:06:04 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: calcowgirl

Too late.


49 posted on 01/13/2006 6:06:47 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: calex59
Arnold is causing Arnolds problems, period.

Worth repeating.

50 posted on 01/13/2006 6:06:52 PM PST by calcowgirl
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