Posted on 01/14/2006 9:46:03 AM PST by cgk
BURLINGTON, Vt. --The young girl who was the victim in a child sex abuse case in which the perpetrator got a minimum sentence of 60 days also was abused by a second man, authorities have alleged.
That revelation is the latest twist in a controversy surrounding Judge Edward Cashman's sentencing of Mark Hulett. Hulett, 34, of Williston, had pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting the girl from the age of 6 to when she was 10.
Derek Kimball, 33, of Hinesburg, whom authorities describe as a friend of Hulett's, was arrested in October and is charged with sexual assault on a victim less than 10 years of age, and lewd and lascivious conduct with a child. He was later released on $25,000 bond and a series of conditions, including that he not contact the victim or any girls under the age of 16.
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Court papers in Kimball's case say the girl told investigators that both Kimball and Hulett had sexually assaulted her in a number of separate incidents.
Detectives met with Kimball at his job at the Chittenden Solid Waste District in South Burlington on Oct. 7, according to court papers. During the interview, Kimball acknowledged the abuse and was arrested, according to the detectives' accounts in the court affidavit.
(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...
Oh... and Hulett's friend is out on bond. The girl told the truth, he admitted it - and he's out of jail with strict warnings not to go near children.
They need to take retribution against the Judge.
Maybe they promised to share her with the "JUDGE"(sic)./s
Is it wrong for me to wish someone imposes their own "justice" on these 2 monsters, who raped a 6 year old girl until she was 10, and finds themself before another judge who rules that they acted because the law did not protect them, as it is supposed to by the Constitution... case dismissed?
Cashman's ruling gives pedophiles a pass in saying that their crimes aren't terribly serious, and nothing REALLY bad will happen to them should they find themselves in his courtroom. He may has well have put out a welcome mat to pedophiles on the Vermont border.
or maybe they both indicated a willingness to share some "quality time" with the judge......something is absolutely bizzarre with this case.
What was possibly "inaccurately" reported that would excuse a 60 day sentence for this scumbag? It sounds like Rep. Kainen needs to go too if he has the bad judgement to think that was a just verdict. It's great comfort to know he's the ranking member on the Judiciary Committee. /s
Would someone please explain the relationship between the girl and the first freak? Where was mom during all this? Where was dad?
He'll probably get 60 days and 3 hots and a cot.
Since when, and what's your authority for such a statement?
Retribution/punishment is one of the foundations of the justice system's basic reasons for incarceration, along with protecting the public from future crimes and along with rehabilitation.
It's a legitimate stand-alone basis for punishment and incarceration, in fact it's the moral basis for incarceration, whereas protecting the public is the practical basis.
Last night, while watching Animal Cops, my ten year old asked me how it can be that someone who abuses an animal can get up to a year in prison, while a man who hurts a child for years only gets 60 days.
My daughter is smarter than this judge. I think HE is a pedophile.
Anyone checked NAMBLA to see if Cashman is a member?
In a sense, they're now his partners in depriving this young girl of justice.
O'Reilly's had people on all week discussing the case, and he's FURIOUS! He said he will not stop unless the Vermont legislature removes the judge immediately. And he's also proposing a boycott of Vermont.
Did you mean "vigilantism" instead of retribution?
he's out of jail with strict warnings not to go near "children."
That should make parents feel better. Strict warnings - yeah, that'll work for pedophiles.
Hulett was a friend of the victim's family and frequently stayed in her home. The victim's parents were aware that Hulett had an interest in the girl and that the two, on some occasions, slept in the same bed, court documents said.
That's the part of the story that I keep looking for. Haven't heard anything about his relationship to the girl or how he had access to her for four years.
What did the parents mean that they were aware he had an interest in their daughter? This whole thing just sounds sick.
Cashman, what an interesting name.
Child-molesting tag team. Does anyone wonder that these monsters actively prey on vulnerable children?
Get a rope, get a rope
We're sick and tired of your liberal views
What's politically correct?
Come judgement day, I'll be trying the noose
And slipping it around your neck
Can't you hear me shout?
There are a lot of people like me about
But for you there's just no hope
Get a rope, get a rope
Today's Vermont, is not the Vermont of Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye.
It has been overrun by New York and Massachusetts leftist communist liberals.
To these NOUVAUX Vermonter's, rapist's are to be revered.
Then throw the parents in jail for child endangerment. This gets screwier and screwier.
It is sick, and seems to be getting worse.
Wonder of O'Reilly has heard about the guy who was arrested for sodomizing and strangling a dog in Vermont recently. Boycott Vermont? I don't buy maple syrup or Ben and Jerry's to start with. What's left? (I live on the NH/Vermont border, and already avoid Vermont like the plague.)
That's Vermont justice for you...liberals don't want to offend anyone. Except conservatives and Christians, of course.
I was wondering the same thing. How could this go on for years? As terrible as it would be, I understand one incident. But you'd think that the child would show physical evidence of trauma. Don't parents still bathe little kids? Or at least take a look at what's going on in the bath? How did this child continue to be molested over time without physical issues that would draw the parents' atention?
I don't know the answer to that. Hoever, it's this kind of situation that drove me to write my novel, THE JUSTICE COOPERATIVE (see my tag line). I'm not advocating that kind of "justice." I wrote the novel as a cautionary tale. If the official justice system fails to deliver justice (and this case is a prime example of the failure of the justice system), we're going to see people "imposing their own justice." Maybe something like the Justice Cooperative will even come into existence. I'm not keen on the idea but it would be better than living with the current failure of the justice system.
The progressives in the State Legislature will defend Cashman tooth and nail. (I like how the media went digging for a "Jeffords-style Republican" for this quote.) Many newspapers are defending Cashman, as well; including the loathsome Rutland (Baghdad) Herald. On a side note: I have been in the offices of the Rutland Herald: full of conservative-bashing/man-hating women that closely resemble Eleanor Clift and Helen Thomas. Brrrrrr!
Would any member of such an organization be stupid enough to enroll under his real name?
We are in the very days when evil is considered good and good is considered evil, cgk. It is very sad.
The victim was assaulted by the Judge.
I heard a little bit about this on a best of Tony Snow show this morning. Apparently mom's and dad's elevators don't go all the way to top floor. Real Parents of the Year material by Vermont standards. That doesn't lessen what this thing did to the girl, however, nor does it lessen the travesty of justice perpetrated by Cashman, the left's new darling jurist.
But why else would the guy be sympathetic? What kind of a person disregards the safety of children?
That is true in theory. But everyone knows what cgk means and I suspect you do also.
Letting these freaks out with light terms or no terms or even after they have served their terms when they commit these crimes over and again is not protecting the public, is it?
Seems to me that membership in NAMBLA would a resume enhancer in Vermont, something to boast about. I'm judging that on the way the entire government and media esstablishment in Vermont are circling the wagons around Cashman. I'll bet Teddy Kennedy and the NYT would have less of a problem with a SC nominee being a NAMBLA member than they did with Sam Alito's membership in CAP.
Yes I did. What I was thinking in terms of "retribution", was that the law frowns up those who seek personal retribution, i.e. taking the law into one's own hands. I apologize for not being more clear.
Unfortunately, true. We see it more and more these days. I am having trouble trying to figure out how to tell my 3 year old there are no monsters, when in fact, there are, and they look just like us.
'Hanging Judge?'...NO! Hang THE Judge.....
§ 56. [Oaths of allegiance and office]
Every officer, whether judicial, executive, or military, in authority under this State, before entering upon the execution of office, shall take and subscribe the following oath or affirmation of allegiance to this State, (unless the officer shall produce evidence that the officer has before taken the same) and also the following oath or affirmation of office, except military officers, and such as shall be exempted by the Legislature.
The Oath or Affirmation of Allegiance
You do solemnly swear (or affirm) that you will be true and faithful to the State of Vermont, and that you will not, directly or indirectly, do any act or thing injurious to the Constitution or Government thereof. (If an oath) So help you God. (If an affirmation) Under the pains and penalties of perjury.
The Oath or Affirmation of Office
You do solemnly swear (or affirm) that you will faithfully execute the office of _____ for the _____ of _____ and will therein do equal right and justice to all persons, to the best of your judgment and ability, according to law. (If an oath) So help you God. (If an affirmation) Under the pains and penalties of perjury.
The victim will carry this around in her head for the rest of her life unless she gets longterm therapy. Even then, she's lost her innocence, her childhood, her sweetness. She harbors intense feelings of anger and hate and will strike out at some point, probably against someone trying to help her...because subconsciously, she'll know that's 'safe'. Her life will just go downhill. The judge should be making sure this kid gets state-paid therapy for as long as she needs it.
Going by his past reasoning, the judge will probably give this guy only 30 days since the girl wasn't a virgin any longer when he sexually assaulted her.
Apparently mom's and dad's elevators don't go all the way to top floor. Real Parents of the Year material by Vermont standards.
I've thought about this quite a bit. I understood that the parents are of very low intelligence (and I'm going to guess that they were "in the system" before they had a child). If CPS had come in early on and taken this child from her parents because of their low IQ being a potential impediment to giving the child what she needed, there would have been screams of injustice from many corners. Parental rights being violated, governmental interference, discrimination,a woman's right to..., etc.
I don't know what the answer is, just wondering what should have been done differently from the beginning. God help that child, and may she have some peace and happiness when this is settled.
I finished the Justice Cooperative about a month ago. It was a great story, and yes, I could see something similar coming about. The idea that judges and the entire system are letting animals get away with crimes and the public has to put up with it will tilt some people to take matters into their own hands.
I like the way your plot was set so the good guys could get retribution with little chance of being caught.
Geraldo was on O'Reilly show and I believe I heard it mentioned that the little girl's parents are retarded. Today it was mentioned that the perp has an IQ of 80.
Not as long as you include the damned Nazgul sitting in judgement in that "justice"....
Wy can't Judge Hulet be charged with accessory after the fact?
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