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'We Will Cut Them Until Iran Asks For Mercy'
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-15-2006 | Massoud Ansari

Posted on 01/14/2006 5:46:28 PM PST by blam

'We will cut them until Iran asks for mercy'

By Massoud Ansari
(Filed: 15/01/2006)

Deep in the lawless triangle connecting Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan, eight terrified Iranian soldiers are being held hostage by a Sunni group that is vowing to "slaughter" them if Teheran does not bow to its demands.

"We will chop their heads once our deadline is over," Abdul Hameed Reeki, chief spokesman of the Jundallah or Brigade of God group, told the Sunday Telegraph, slowly drawing an index finger across his neck to demonstrate the seriousness of his intent.

The deadline for the men is tomorrow.

The emergence of a fanatical Sunni group operating inside Iran's south-eastern border poses a startling new threat to the country's Shia clerical regime.

It already faces a crisis with the West over its nuclear ambitions, the risk of pre-emptive Israeli strikes and the undermining by a Sunni-dominated insurgency of the pro-Iranian regime which has begun to emerge in neighbouring Iraq.

Now, Iran's own Sunnis, who number six million of the country's 68 million population and are the majority in some south-eastern provinces, are becoming restless - and groups like Jundallah are emerging from the shadows.

The eight members of the Iranian border security police were kidnapped by the group near the Gadarnahouk post in the Sarawan region and south-eastern city of Zahedan last month. Now, they find themselves being offered as bargaining chips in exchange for the release of 16 of their captors' colleagues, jailed by the Iranian government.

In his first media interview, Hameed, 27, said: "If they release our men, we will release soldiers but if they don't, we will chop their heads off and will send them as a gift to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad [the Iranian president]."

The desolate plains of Ribat, which straddle the border with Pakistan and are infested with bandits, drug traffickers and rebel tribesmen are the perfect place for an insurrection.

Armed with assorted rifles, hand grenades and a few anti-aircraft guns, the group has been operating from Iran's lawless borderlands for the past four years.

They claim to have killed 400 Iranian soldiers in hit-and-run operations. Teheran's Shia government has accused the US of supporting the Sunni group and is trying to persuade President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan to intercede on behalf of the eight hostages.

But the Jundallah deny any link with either the US or the Pakistani government. Although they hold out little hope of their 16 members being freed, they hardly appear to care. "If they hang all the 16 of our colleagues, we do not mind because we know they would be martyrs and will go straight to heaven," said Hameed.

Killing the hostages might be necessary, he suggested, to deter Iranian soldiers from killing innocent Sunnis, who he claimed were being persecuted by Mr Ahmedinejad's hard-line regime. "We will cut them, cut them and cut them until they ask for the mercy and Teheran is compelled to give us our political rights," he declared.

He said that Iran, which announced this week that it was breaking seals on three nuclear plants in order to resume sensitive nuclear fuel cycle work, was just a "screwdriver turn away from manufacturing a bomb". He added: "Once they do it, they will become a mad elephant and will be a real threat to the world peace."

Although Jundallah had just 1,000 trained fighters, he said, it had the dedication needed to defeat the Iranian army - particularly if some help were to prove forthcoming from the West.

"Our determination is mightier than the mountains and if we are provided with a little back-up from outside, we have the guts to take over, if not Teheran, but at least the Sunni majority province of Iranian Baluchistan within a week's time," he said.

Another option, he added, was to assassinate Iranian leaders, perhaps even Mr Ahmadinejad. The group has already been accused by the Iranian government of an attack on presidential security forces last month.

It supplied two compact discs to the Sunday Telegraph, showing chilling footage of their captives being paraded and threatened.

The group says it is spurred by the way that Iran's 90 per cent Shia majority and its government, dominated by Shia clerics, persecutes its Sunni population and denies them their rights.

"No Sunni has a right to become a president, prime minister or even a minister in the Iranian government," said Hameed.

"Between 12,000 and 15,000 Sunnis in the Iranian Baluchistan province have been hanged and scores jailed since the Shia revolution of 1979," he claimed, adding that human rights organisations were prevented from reaching areas to verify the figures.

"Only the centre of Iran is dominated by the Shia, while Sunnis are in the majority along three sides of the border and all of them are victims of the reign of terror."

All the senior figures of Jundallah had been motivated to found and join the group by injustices they had experienced personally, said Hameed. Its leader, Abdul Malik Baluchi, 25, launched the group after his brother and uncle were killed in separate encounters with the Iranian police.

Nasir Kurd, 28, said he joined after his brother was convicted and hanged on "trumped up" charges and his wife was raped and killed in front of him by Iranian soldiers. The Iranian government was offering a $1 million reward for information leading to his arrest, Hameed said.

Asked whether the satellite telephone he was holding might not lead to his being located, he allowed himself a smile. "We are not fighting against America," he said.

Support for Jundallah was growing, he said. "There are hundreds of others who are desperate to sign in, but we ask them to wait because we do not have enough weapons or camps."

Hameed said Jundallah would not be satisfied until full political rights had been secured for Iran's Sunnis and a more democratic government installed. "This is just the beginning We will fight till the day of persecution is over."


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1 posted on 01/14/2006 5:46:31 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Can't we build a huge strategic toilet and just flush the middle east down it.


2 posted on 01/14/2006 5:51:29 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: blam

Cannibalism amongst the Islamowhackos - KEWL!


3 posted on 01/14/2006 5:52:43 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: blam

This is getting interesting.


4 posted on 01/14/2006 5:53:01 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: blam

Baluchistan? Never heard of this "stan" before but I like it already!


5 posted on 01/14/2006 5:53:43 PM PST by RedRover (Interesting world we live in...)
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To: blam
I can't quite figure out if this is a good thing or bad thing.

However, I thought you could only become a martyr if you died while killing infidels, i.e. non-believers? Clearly the Shia don't qualify as infidels.

The rascally muslims keep changing the rules.

6 posted on 01/14/2006 5:53:56 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott
LOL! All I could think of while reading the article is, "ok who do we root for?" Good grief, the ME is populated by whackos.
7 posted on 01/14/2006 5:56:54 PM PST by asp1
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To: blam

The days of the Shah are looking better and better in retrospect.


8 posted on 01/14/2006 6:01:55 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: teenyelliott
However, I thought you could only become a martyr if you died while killing infidels, i.e. non-believers? Clearly the Shia don't qualify as infidels.

That depends on who you ask. Like other major religions, Islam has groups of radicals who believe that they hold the One Universal Truth and that everyone else is crazy/misguided/heretical. Sunni and Shi'a Muslims have been fighing each other off and on for over a thousand years. It wouldn't be too unusual for a Sunni splinter group to decide that the Shi'a government of Iran was run by infidels.

9 posted on 01/14/2006 6:02:36 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: teenyelliott

A heretic is as bad as an infidel, maybe even worse. Never cross a grumpy Muslim.


10 posted on 01/14/2006 6:03:09 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: asp1

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


11 posted on 01/14/2006 6:04:12 PM PST by Dog (When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris.)
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To: Dog

I wonder who's running guns to these rebels, hehehe.


12 posted on 01/14/2006 6:05:45 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Zeroisanumber

Regardless of the denomination, it never ceases to amaze me the number of those "One Univeral Truth" people who reside here in the US.


13 posted on 01/14/2006 6:05:49 PM PST by chet_in_ny
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To: Dog

Ok! I'll root for the cutters this time. :O)


14 posted on 01/14/2006 6:08:08 PM PST by asp1
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To: Zeroisanumber; Cicero; asp1
*sigh*

I'll never be able to keep all their rules straight. Each little group hates everyone else.

I have no idea how the people in the ME have survived this long.

15 posted on 01/14/2006 6:08:09 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Cicero
Never cross a grumpy Muslim.

I try never to run across any muslims at all. I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones.

16 posted on 01/14/2006 6:09:21 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott
I'll never be able to keep all their rules straight. Each little group hates everyone else.

I have no idea how the people in the ME have survived this long.

Probably about as well as the Europeans have. :-)

17 posted on 01/14/2006 6:09:58 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Zeroisanumber

Well, dang, man, at least the Euros don't run around cutting people's heads off every time they don't get their way!


18 posted on 01/14/2006 6:12:01 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: blam
First credible news of a real Iranian resistence I've heard. Baluchistan is well suited to guerilla ops.
19 posted on 01/14/2006 6:12:29 PM PST by JasonC
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To: teenyelliott
Do you wonder what is going through the minds of the eight who are hostages? Do they think to themselves, "Oh well, I guess they are going to chop my head off, because that's what we muslims do?" Does it ever connect in their minds that maybe, just maybe, they are barbarians and should join the civilized world.
20 posted on 01/14/2006 6:15:54 PM PST by asp1
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To: wildcatf4f3

"Can't we build a huge strategic toilet and just flush the middle east down it."

Wouldn't work. The middle east is already toilet-bowl central. Flushing it down would just churn the S##t.


21 posted on 01/14/2006 6:16:18 PM PST by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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To: teenyelliott
Clearly the Shia don't qualify as infidels.

The Shia, and the Sunni, each consider the other group to be apostate, which is *worse* than being an infidel...

the infowarrior

22 posted on 01/14/2006 6:18:24 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: asp1

No, because crazy people never know they are crazy.


23 posted on 01/14/2006 6:19:02 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: infowarrior
So, they want to kill each other more than they want to kill us?

Islam. The religion of peace.

24 posted on 01/14/2006 6:20:03 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott

Scary, isn't it?


25 posted on 01/14/2006 6:22:58 PM PST by asp1
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To: teenyelliott
Islam. The religion of peace.

*sigh* That's what everyone keeps telling us.

26 posted on 01/14/2006 6:27:06 PM PST by Drew68
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To: JasonC

Baluchistan is well suited to guerilla ops.

What's the area like? Similar to Hindu Kush? I don't know anything about this region.

27 posted on 01/14/2006 6:28:40 PM PST by RedRover
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To: Drew68

Yeah, and I throw up a little bit every time I hear it.


28 posted on 01/14/2006 6:28:54 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: blam

"We will turn them one against the other." - George W. Bush, addressing the nation following the terror attacks of 9/11/01


29 posted on 01/14/2006 6:30:34 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover
Much flatter, desert plateau. Think badlands.
30 posted on 01/14/2006 6:31:01 PM PST by JasonC
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To: RedRover
There are mountainous portions, mind, but most of it is high desert plateau.
31 posted on 01/14/2006 6:31:35 PM PST by JasonC
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To: Dog
If we haven't had operatives in Baluchistan sipping tea and handing out guns, ammo and dollars since about October 2001, and cross border training camps established since the conclusion of the Afghanistan War, I'd be damned disappointed.
32 posted on 01/14/2006 6:34:05 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Dog
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

No. The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.
33 posted on 01/14/2006 6:35:57 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: blam

Interesting! Thanks for posting.


34 posted on 01/14/2006 6:36:16 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: RedRover
Here is a pic - Some archaeologist on a dig in Baluchistan

Pretty forbidding country, a lot of it. There are successive ranges between the coast and the northern mountains, like southern Arizona or southwestern New Mexico, say. There are wide sand deserts. There are high mountains in the north at the tri-border area where Pakistan, Iran, and Afghanistan meet. There are small fishing settlements along the coast, and villages dotting the interior wherever the land is fertile enough to support livestock.

35 posted on 01/14/2006 6:38:56 PM PST by JasonC
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To: RedRover

36 posted on 01/14/2006 6:43:29 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: RedRover

Baluchistan is a province in Pakistan. It borders Iran....the Baluchis are Sunni muslims of the Wahabbi kind.


37 posted on 01/14/2006 6:44:58 PM PST by indcons
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To: JasonC

Sistan And Baluchistan

38 posted on 01/14/2006 6:45:58 PM PST by blam
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To: JasonC
Many thanks for the information! (By the way, the archaeologist on the dig in Baluchistan uses an interesting tool!)

It doesn't seem as if the Iranian forces are equipped to handle a fight in this terrain. I wonder if the kidnapped soldiers were the whole outpost on the border. As they say, one can only await further developments with great interest!

39 posted on 01/14/2006 6:52:00 PM PST by RedRover (While Fox has stories about drunk honeymooners falling out off cruise ships, FR has the news.)
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To: Stultis

Wow! Formidable place.


40 posted on 01/14/2006 6:55:53 PM PST by RedRover (It's the Freepers who make FreeRepublic great!)
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To: blam

Can we give Iraq to the Kurds and let the Shia and Sunni duke it out over Iran?


41 posted on 01/14/2006 6:57:08 PM PST by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: indcons

The Baluchs are a tride or nation, they speak their own language. The inhabited corners of all three countries, not just Pakistan. These are in the easternmost part of Iran, up to the Pakistani border. They extend something like 200 miles into Iran.


42 posted on 01/14/2006 6:58:42 PM PST by JasonC
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To: wildcatf4f3
Can't we build a huge strategic toilet and just flush the middle east down it.

Those have been my sentiments from time to time. It is amazing how the forces of ignorance and disinformation are so dominant, seemingly, over there.

43 posted on 01/14/2006 6:58:42 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (<a href="http://www.yahoo.com">Yahoo</a> test)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Bttt mice elf


44 posted on 01/14/2006 6:59:41 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush (When you come to a fork in the road, take it.)
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To: RedRover
Well, they have about 300 helicopters in their inventory, maybe half of them actually serviceable. The most useful thing they have for this sort of terrain. They also have a few thousand tanks and APCs, mostly in the west, but enough overall to have a few hundred in the area. Those can't hold all of it, but they can do point to point convoys and take particular towns or what-not. But give the guys on the ground a little training, a few reasonable missiles (ATGMs to deal with armor from hills e.g.), or better still a little air cover, and the Iranians could not hold the eastern "handle" of the country, abutting Pakistan. For a couple hundred miles. They have zero infrastructure or wealth to project serious force into so barren an area, logistically speaking.
45 posted on 01/14/2006 7:02:46 PM PST by JasonC
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To: chet_in_ny
Regardless of the denomination, it never ceases to amaze me the number of those "One Univeral Truth" people who reside here in the US.

The difference is that ours in the US have it right. $mart people, like Pat Robert$on. Gonna build another amu$ement park for Chri$tian$, in I$rael.

Go Pat go.

46 posted on 01/14/2006 7:08:15 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: JasonC

The province called Baluchistan is in Pakistan. Baluchis may be spread over Afghanistan and Iran but the bulk live in Pakistan. Inhuman scumbags, that's what the Baluchis are...


47 posted on 01/14/2006 7:08:27 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Do you think that "Abdul Hameed Reeki, chief spokesman of the Jundallah" is a Baluchi? Or is his group taking refuge there to conduct ops into Iran?


48 posted on 01/14/2006 7:20:29 PM PST by RedRover
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To: teenyelliott

"I try never to run across any muslims at all. I can't tell the good ones from the bad ones."


Easy. The Bad ones are still breathing. OK, OK, I kid, I kid! ...the breathing ones are no good either.


49 posted on 01/14/2006 7:21:07 PM PST by SoCal_Republican (Bubbleheads for Bush)
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To: infowarrior

Dammit they need to pass out score cards so we infidels can keep up with who is against whom.


50 posted on 01/14/2006 7:21:17 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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