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Mitt Romney: The November Surprise
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2006/mitt-romney-the-november-surprise/ ^ | January 14. 2006 | Carol Turoff

Posted on 01/14/2006 8:31:58 PM PST by Connie Servative

Mitt Romney: The November Surprise by Carol Turoff January 14. 2006

An unlikely package of contrasts emerges from Leftachusetts.

In a state that has kept dependable liberals Ted Kennedy (first elected in 1962) and John Kerry (1984) in the senate and Barney Frank (serving since 1980) among its congressional representatives, an atypical political figure has emerged on the Massachusetts horizon.

Never previously having held elective office, Gov. Mitt Romney was elected in 2002 with a decisive margin. The son of George Romney, a former Cabinet member who served three terms as governor of Michigan, Mitt presents an intriguing Republican persona as the 2006 presidential cycle shifts into full gear. Recently named Chairman of the Republican Governors’ Association, he has exhibited an impressive mix of business acumen and political savvy notably lacking in many of the names currently receiving attention. Since announcing he would not seek a second term leading Massachusetts, he has visited the early voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, which are key in garnering national prominence.

The curiosity of a social and fiscal conservative at the helm of the state of Massachusetts stirs initial interest. A closer look does nothing to dispel the notion that Romney has what it takes to keep Republican occupants in residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Successfully leading the management consulting firm of Bain and Company, the cum laude Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School honors graduate then distinguished himself directing its highly profitable venture capitol spin-off, Bain Capitol.

Called upon to oversee the 2002 Winter Olympics which had been mired in scandal, financial and organizational controversy, Romney became president and CEO of the organizing committee, in what became one of the nation’s most successful Olympic endeavors. Turning a $100 million profit from the debt-ridden organization by scaling back opening and closing ceremonies and holding a tight rein on the purse strings of the committee, required diligence. In the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks the preceding year, security concerns presented unique and costly challenges.

Touting his spirited call for volunteerism while in Utah, Romney assembled thousands of eager participants. Deeply involved in his church and long active in numerous civic and charitable organizations, Mitt Romney provided a guiding example for others to follow.

Blessed with movie star good looks, Mitt and Ann Romney have been married thirty-seven years. Surrounded by their five married sons and their families, they resemble the photographs of models manufacturers insert into newly purchased frames. Although Ann was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1998, she remains committed to her community service projects, notably those helping at-risk girls make positive life choices.

In 2004, Gov. Romney, a steadfast advocate of traditional marriage, filed emergency legislation requesting the state’s highest court stay its order legalizing same-sex “marriage” until Massachusetts residents could vote on the issue. State legislators passed a compromise amendment banning such nuptials while legalizing civil unions. His reaction was swift. “The people of Massachusetts should not be excluded from a decision as fundamental to our society as the definition of marriage,” said Gov. Romney. “This issue is too important to leave to a one-vote majority of the Supreme Judicial Court.”

He takes a jab on his strong, squared chin, from social conservatives who oppose what they see as his squishy positioning on the issue of abortion, however. “While I’ve said time and again that I oppose abortion, I’ve also indicated that I would not change in any way the abortion laws in Massachusetts. And I’ve honored that promise. I take my promises very seriously,” he stated.

Reminiscent of the contemptuous anti-Kennedy crowd in the early 1960’s, wary of electing the first Roman Catholic to the presidency, there are those who balk at pulling the lever for a Mormon. The fact that there are governors, cabinet members and currently five US Senators and thirteen members of the US House of Representatives of both parties who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints should serve to quell such unreasonable concerns. Sen. Harry Reid aside, most faithful LDS adherents tend to hold traditional values.

Meanwhile, throwing judgment to the winds, likely Democrat contender, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) appeared with leftist activist Harry Belafonte at The Children’s Defense Fund’s 2006 Winter Benefit where Clinton confidant and political advisor, Susan Thomases was the honoree.

“Banana Boat” singer, Harry Belafonte, recently traveled to Venezuela to denounce President George W. Bush, calling him “the greatest terrorist in the world.” Embracing the socialist dictator Hugo Chavez, Belafonte enthused, “We respect you, we admire you.”

Then, Hillary’s chum, Harry, warmly declared, “¡Viva la revolución!”

Mitt Romney is looking better and better.

Carol Turoff is a former two-term member of the Commission on Appellate Court Appointments. During her eight years on the commission, she participated in the selection of four of the five current Arizona Supreme Court Justices as well as 17 judges on both Division I and II of the Arizona Court of Appeals. Appointed by two governors, Turoff served with three chairing Supreme Court Justices.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: belafonte; profag; progayagenda; rinoforprez; romney; romneytherino; turoff
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1 posted on 01/14/2006 8:32:01 PM PST by Connie Servative
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To: Connie Servative

Mitt Romney is a pro-abortion, pro-fetal stem cell RINO.


2 posted on 01/14/2006 8:35:27 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: Connie Servative

Who wrote this crap, Romney's campaign staff ? The guy is nothing another wimpy RINO with really good hair.


3 posted on 01/14/2006 8:36:21 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Connie Servative

What record of accomplishment is he going to run on ? He is utterly incapable of enacting an agenda because a Republican Governor has no power in Massachusetts. His inability to repair the damage of his RINO predecessors to the state party is one reason he is not even bothering to run for a 2nd term and plans to return to Utah come next January.


5 posted on 01/14/2006 8:41:34 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Connie Servative

Would you care to comment on any one of the stories you have posted - or on any topic whatsoever?


We all know how to read the news.... but do you have an opinion about it? Do share.


6 posted on 01/14/2006 8:42:02 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: Connie Servative
Mitt Romney is looking better and better.

For better or worse, he also speaks fluent French (he's much more fluent than John Kerry).

I'm starting to warm to the idea of a Romney administration. He'd be a hard-nosed businessman likely to bring fiscal restraint to government spending. I need to know where he stands on illegal immigration, though.

7 posted on 01/14/2006 8:42:23 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Connie Servative
Mitt Romney is personally opposed to abortion.

It's just that today, tomorrow, and for over 40 years, he favors legal abortion and Roe vs Wade.

And gay rights.

And gun control.

The unofficial Romney motto:
"Have you nominated a liberal gay rights activist Democrat to a judgeship today? I did!"

8 posted on 01/14/2006 8:43:23 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

He did not even have the stones to fire Fat Matt, had to ask for permission from the Supreme Judicial Court.


9 posted on 01/14/2006 8:43:46 PM PST by Panerai
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To: big'ol_freeper

You have no idea what you are posting about.

Do some homework.


10 posted on 01/14/2006 8:45:53 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: JCEccles

"likely to bring fiscal restraint to government spending" - Yeah because Republicans everywhere have shown all this fiscal restraint.


11 posted on 01/14/2006 8:46:34 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Connie Servative
“While I’ve said time and again that I oppose abortion, I’ve also indicated that I would not change in any way the abortion laws in Massachusetts. And I’ve honored that promise.

The a..hole is trying to talk out of both sides of his mouth. If he's against abortion, why promise NOT to change the law.

12 posted on 01/14/2006 8:49:33 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: Connie Servative
I have lived through the regimes of Dukakis and Romney.

I know a lot about these guys.

Romney is no Dukakis.

Mitt is a man of Class and principles.

Mitt Romney is the most qualified candidate for president that I have ever been aware of.

Honest.
13 posted on 01/14/2006 8:50:09 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: kimosabe31

He was for abortion, before he was against it


14 posted on 01/14/2006 8:51:39 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Connie Servative

Romney should run against Teddy again.


15 posted on 01/14/2006 8:52:11 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Sometimes believing what you are seeing is the greatest challenge.)
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To: wtp7
He has no chance.

A few months ago, I might have agreed with you.

So far, a more competitive social and fiscal conservative has not appeared as a viable Republican candidate for president. The MSM keeps touting McCain and Giuliani, neither of which is acceptable to social conservatives.

As president Romney is likely to fill the next SCOTUS opening with someone like evangelical Christian Michael McConnell, setting the nation on a steadfast conservative course for 20-30 years.

Complaining about Romney's religion is pointless and irrelevant. His religion will manifest itself in traditional social and fiscal conservatism, nothing less and nothing more.

What's wrong with that?

16 posted on 01/14/2006 8:52:50 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Connie Servative

as the 2006 presidential cycle shifts into full gear

Huh! Did I miss something? Maybe they're thinking about the need for a special election after the impeachment and removal.

I see they're touting another Northeast RINO. I believe some liberals think their only prospect for someone in the White House is getting a RINO in under cover of darkness (ie: MSM propaganda to sell him to the public)


17 posted on 01/14/2006 8:56:24 PM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: saganite

Romney is for universal health care in Massachusetts, health care for all on the back of businesses and working people.


18 posted on 01/14/2006 8:58:54 PM PST by Panerai
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To: JCEccles

Romney would make a good President, even though Mormonism is as credible as 8 foot tall Quaker moon men. That is the problem, the National Democratic party and the media would have a hey day telling the world every fine detail of Mormon kookiness from Demon repellent underwear to baptisms of the dead. I certainly respect Mormon's for their steadfast family values but the media will rush to crucify Romney in such a way that would make Pontus Pilot proud.


19 posted on 01/14/2006 9:02:05 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Sometimes believing what you are seeing is the greatest challenge.)
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To: JCEccles
Complaining about Romney's religion is pointless and irrelevant. His religion will manifest itself in traditional social and fiscal conservatism, nothing less and nothing more.

Yep, good old fellow Mormon, Harry Reid is the embodiment of traditional social and fiscal conservatism.

20 posted on 01/14/2006 9:02:16 PM PST by colorcountry (Currently not in the process of becoming a God!)
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To: Panerai

In Mormonism, the United Order was one of several church organizations established to manage and administer the Law of Consecration (a voluntary form of Christian communism and religious communism) within the Church of Christ. The United Order was an egalitarian community designed to achieve income equality, eliminate poverty, increase group self-sufficiency, and create an ideal utopian society Mormons referred to as Zion. Its practice within Mormonism is now very rare, generally limited to small sects of Mormon fundamentalists.


21 posted on 01/14/2006 9:06:06 PM PST by colorcountry (Currently not in the process of becoming a God!)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Great idea! How can Romney be convinced to take on Teddy?


22 posted on 01/14/2006 9:07:40 PM PST by guswainey
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To: JCEccles

Look for him to appear again on C-Span and judge for yourself. He's an accomplished speaker, almost Reaganesque, great sense of humor, and good-looking, too. TV cameras love him. Given a moderate amount of publicity (and no scandals) he could easily acquire a following.


23 posted on 01/14/2006 9:11:05 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: guswainey

Apparently you are not from the New England area, you would know that senile Kennedy would wipe the floor with Romney in Massachusetts.


24 posted on 01/14/2006 9:11:08 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Liberty Wins

"and good-looking, too" - Ann Coulter was right, giving women the right to vote was a mistake.


25 posted on 01/14/2006 9:13:00 PM PST by Panerai
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To: Panerai
"and good-looking, too" - Ann Coulter was right, giving women the right to vote was a mistake.

Actually, I agree with Ann. However, as long as we are stuck with universal suffrage, it doesn't make sense to nominate a guy that looks bad on TV. Little old Republican ladies ask for his autograph. They vote.

26 posted on 01/14/2006 9:17:19 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: JohnnyZ

Romney is a phoney baloney, elephant eared, RINO. He is loved by liberal Massachusetts, where he goes along and gets along with the socialists in the legislature. He should be crusading against the radical judges there and gay marriage but isn't, because he actually supports gay rights.

Is he trying to repeal the noxious gun laws there? No. What exactly does the guy do but get his face in the media? He's a clone of his father, who said he was "brainwashed" on the Vietnam War.

That stupid statement, a poor attempt at being wishy washy, cost his father George any chance he had at the 1968 GOP nomination. His father was a squishy moderate and a media creation. No difference with the son. Running the nation's closest thing to the USSR is hardly a recommendation to be president. He's a big nothing. Even got beat by Fat Teddy once. Great job, Mitt.


27 posted on 01/14/2006 9:20:16 PM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion that runs this country.)
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To: Connie Servative

Mitt lost all credibility as a Presidential contender when he chose not to seek a 2nd term as Governor.


28 posted on 01/14/2006 9:20:48 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: Connie Servative

I don't care what label you put on ANYTHING that comes out of Massachusetts, if it LIVES there, it cannot be conservative and strong for America. Forget Romney. Wrong crowd, wrong neighborhood, wrong everything.


29 posted on 01/14/2006 9:31:26 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: JCEccles; wtp7
As president Romney is likely to fill the next SCOTUS opening with someone like evangelical Christian Michael McConnell

In Massachusetts he nominated at least one homosexual liberal Democrat gay rights activist as district court judge.

Let me repeat: Mitt Romney thinks liberal Democrat gay rights activists are good judge material.

Can't wait for Romney to nominate Barney Frank to the Supreme Court!

30 posted on 01/14/2006 10:03:57 PM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

He's pro gay marriage and special rights, too.


31 posted on 01/14/2006 10:28:53 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Mormonism is as credible as 8 foot tall Quaker moon men.

Right. However, I think you are wrong on thinking the MSM would oppose him. He has pandered so much to the libs in Taxachusetts he would be a darling of the MSM. Similar to McCain, one of their darlings.


32 posted on 01/14/2006 10:49:08 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Connie Servative
"On a personal basis, I don't favor abortion. However, as governor of the commonwealth, I will protect a woman's right to choose under the laws of the country and the commonwealth. That's the same position I've had for many years."
- Mitt Romney, March 2002

That is the same position that John Kerry holds. Romney is fooling no one with his dual position on abortion. Also, Romney endorsed legalization of RU-486, the morning after abortion pill.

"I view him as a moderate Republican," said Eric Fehrnstrom, Romney's deputy campaign manager. "He's fiscally conservative, of course, but he's pro-gay rights, pro-choice and he supports the assault-weapon ban."

Quick summation from his political advisor.

In December 2005, Human Events voted Mitt Romney #8 on their list of Top Ten RINOs. Nuff said, for now.

33 posted on 01/14/2006 10:57:30 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man

Great post.

Romney ain't gonna cut it.


34 posted on 01/14/2006 11:03:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Check this out: President Mitt Romney?: By James Joyner Interesting essay.
35 posted on 01/14/2006 11:10:49 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man

Thanks.


36 posted on 01/14/2006 11:15:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

For the record. From America's preeminent political conservative magazine: Human Events on Mitt Romney, June 17, 2005. Confusing to say the least.

Taxes

No New Taxes
"'I'm absolutely committed to not raising taxes,' Romney said."
—Boston Globe, Nov. 6, 1994

No Forbes Flat Tax
"Mitt Romney today is running a series of full-page newspaper ads attacking the 17% flat tax proposed by candidate Steve Forbes. … 'The problem with the Forbes flat tax is that it isn't flat at all—it's a zero tax on the wealthy and a 17% tax on working Americans,' Romney said yesterday. 'I'm hoping that by running these ads voters will realize the Forbes flat tax is a gimmick, a phony, and not what it pretends to be.'"
—Boston Globe, Jan. 21, 1996

Fees, Not Taxes
"[Massachusetts] had to deal with a $3 billion deficit. . . . 'You don't create economic prosperity by raising taxes,' [Romney] says. He cut some programs, combined others, and looked for savings everywhere he could. In the end, he was forced to boost fees for a variety of government services by more than $200 million. 'I know it's kind of hard to distinguish between taxes and fees,' he says, 'but we stayed away from broad-based fee increases such as driver's-license registrations.' He says that balancing the budget without a tax hike has been his most significant accomplishment as governor."
—National Review, June 20, 2005

Life Issues

For Roe v. Wade
Boston Globe reporter Sally Jacobs: "Mr. Romney, you personally oppose abortion and as a church leader have advised women not to have an abortion. Given that, how could you in good conscience support a law that enables women to have an abortion, and even lets the government pay for it? If abortion is morally wrong, aren't you responsible for discouraging it?"

Romney: "One of the great things about our nation, Sally, is that we're each entitled to have strong personal beliefs, and we encourage other people to do the same. But as a nation we recognize the right of all people to believe as they want, and not to impose our beliefs on other people. I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country; I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate.

"I believe that Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice. And my personal beliefs, like the personal beliefs of other people, should not be brought into a political campaign."
—Senate campaign debate with Sen. Ted Kennedy.
New York Times, Oct. 26, 1994

For RU-486
"'I don't really understand how it works or when it works but my understanding is it's an effective morning-after pill, and I think it would be a positive thing to have women have the choice of taking the morning-after pill,' Romney said. 'I would favor having it available.'"
—Boston Herald, May 19, 1994

Not a Pro-Choice Flip-Flopper
"Citing a 1971 letter written by Kennedy, [Romney political consultant Charles] Manning responded, 'I think the reason they don't trust Ted Kennedy is that he flip-flopped on abortion. He was pro-life before Roe v. Wade and now he's changed. Mitt has always been consistent in his pro-choice position and that's why the group respects him.'"
—Boston Globe, Sept. 8, 1994

Don't Label 'Pro-Choice'
"'I do not wish to be labeled pro-choice,' Romney wrote this week in a letter to the editor of the Salt Lake Tribune. 'I have never felt comfortable with the labels associated with the abortion issue.'"
—Salt Lake Tribune, July 11, 2001

Pledged to Maintain 'Pro-Choice Status Quo'
"As governor, Mitt Romney would protect the current pro-choice status quo in Massachusetts. No law would change. The choice to have an abortion is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the government's."
—Romney campaign statement.
Deseret News, Sept. 1, 2002

Philosophically Pro-Life
"My political philosophy is pro-life."
—National Review, June 20, 2005

'Faking It'?
"He's been a pro-life Mormon faking it as a pro-choice friendly."
—Romney political consultant Michael Murphy.
National Review, June 20, 2005

"'The quote in the National Review article was not what I meant to communicate,' [Michael Murphy] wrote on the letterhead of his Washington-based firm yesterday. 'I was discussing a characterization the governor's critics use. I regret the quote and any confusion it might have caused.'"
—Boston Herald, June 3, 2005

Won't Confuse Massachusetts
"'Understand over time one's perspective changes somewhat,' [Romney] said. 'I'm in a different place than I was probably in 1994, when I ran against Ted Kennedy, in my own views on that.' … What are Romney's views now? The governor said he was 'personally pro-life' but declined to say more. 'I choose not to elaborate on those because I don't want to be confusing to people in my state,' he said."
—USA Today, May 23, 2005

Marriage and Partnerships

For Domestic Partnerships, Against Gay Marriage and Civil Unions
"Of course I do want to see equal opportunity in employment, and provide also benefits such as hospital visitation rights for domestic partnerships. But I made very clear in my campaign throughout the entire campaign that I do not support gay marriage or civil unions, Vermont-style civil unions, as I called them at the time. Haven't changed my view at all. Now, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court came out with a decision, which made that an issue that came front and center. I made it clear time and again I do not support gay marriage nor civil unions."
—CNN's "Inside Politics," March 1, 2005

Guns

For "Assault Weapons" Ban
"Mitt Romney supports the strict enforcement of gun laws. He is a supporter of the federal assault weapons ban. Mitt also believes in the rights of those who hunt to responsibly own and use firearms."
—Romney campaign statement.
Deseret News, Sept. 1, 2002

Immigration

Against Illegal Alien Amnesty
"Last year, the governor threatened to veto a bill that would have allowed illegal aliens to obtain driver's licenses, but the legislation never made it to his desk. He actually did veto a bill that would have given illegal aliens the right to in-state tuition at public universities. He hasn't taken a formal position on any of the federal immigration plans. 'I'm against an amnesty and against anything that provides an incentive for people to come here illegally.'"
—National Review, June 20, 2005


37 posted on 01/14/2006 11:26:50 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Panerai

Mitt Romney running for president? Why not just hand Hilary the keys to the White House right now?


38 posted on 01/15/2006 1:31:35 AM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: Reagan Man

Human Events is the single most reliable news source in the last 50 years. If they say Romney is a RINO, that's the end of the argument.


39 posted on 01/15/2006 2:22:46 AM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: chae

An unknown will never win against a superstar name.


40 posted on 01/15/2006 3:58:57 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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To: Connie Servative
Guns

For "Assault Weapons" Ban
"Mitt Romney supports the strict enforcement of gun laws. He is a supporter of the federal assault weapons ban. Mitt also believes in the rights of those who hunt to responsibly own and use firearms."
—Romney campaign statement.
Desert News, Sept. 1, 2002

ta-ta "Mitt"
Don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

41 posted on 01/15/2006 6:28:02 AM PST by Condor51 (The above comment is time sensitive - don't BUG ME an hour from now.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well, he has presided over the destruction of the second amendment, the advancement of the gay agenda, the utter corruption of his judiciary, the loss of jobs and population from his state.

Maybe he can do that for the nation, too.


42 posted on 01/15/2006 6:56:12 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Nobody will be asked.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
All you anti-Mitt Romney folks are such one-note Charlies.

If all you've got to hang your hat on is the abortion issue, it's a very weak foundation. Mitt's views on abortion is actually more conservative than about 80% of the rest of the country and more conservative than the current occupant of the White House to boot. It's simply not going to be a factor in this next election cycle.

Personally, I think at this point in time, Mitt Romney give the GOP the best chance to hold the White House in 2008. Somebody better might come along but they better come along pretty quick because time is running out.

43 posted on 01/15/2006 7:13:49 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Blizzard coming to Northeast U.S.)
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To: sasportas

You forget. A conservative is a conservative is a conservative. Let McCain or Romney become the nominee for President and the dogs of hell would be loosed on him from the "mainstream media". They are foremost liberals and as long as a liberal is running that is where their loyalties will lie.


44 posted on 01/15/2006 7:14:00 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Sometimes believing what you are seeing is the greatest challenge.)
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To: SamAdams76

Abortion, second amendment, gay agenda, loss of business and population.

Much more than one.


45 posted on 01/15/2006 7:18:12 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Nobody will be asked.)
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To: Panerai
Again....folks... check out the movie "The God Makers", if you really want to understand the Morman articles of faith.
46 posted on 01/15/2006 7:33:51 AM PST by pointsal
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To: Connie Servative

Stranger things have happened...John Kerry getting the dem nomination last time, for instance. But we'll have to see how things shake out. I'd take Romney over say, McCain, but there are better candidates...George Allen of VA., to name one.


47 posted on 01/15/2006 7:39:33 AM PST by hershey
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To: SamAdams76
If all you've got to hang your hat on is the abortion issue, it's a very weak foundation.

Ah yes, 40 years of steadfast support for legal abortion and Roe v Wade. No big deal.

And of course you completely ignore Mitt's other campaign planks:

Liberal gay activists as judges!

Assault weapons ban!

Gay rights!

Force all hospitals to dispense abortion drugs!

Embryonic stem cell research!

48 posted on 01/15/2006 8:13:35 AM PST by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Connie Servative

49 posted on 01/15/2006 8:29:48 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: SamAdams76
Romney's position on abortion is chicken sh*t and he is certainly not more conservative than 80% of the rest of the country. Tell that to the murdered pre-borns. He uses that same cop out statement of "while I am personally opposed..." as liberal Catholic politicians do.

I get very suspicious of politicians who's "culture of life" positions (abortion, civil unions, gay marriage, other gay issues) "evolve" depending on the audience as Romney's do.

I also beg to differ with you that my complaint is one issue (abortion). I can add his immoral support of embryonic stem cell research, forcing Catholic hospitals to violate beliefs by forcing them to provide "reproductive health" services including contraception, his support to the gay agenda (and I don't mean just civil unions). Romney has compiled a mostly pro-gay record as governor. "Romney has appointed several openly gay people to key positions, endorsed openly gay legislative candidates, and declined to gut the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth" to quote the American Family Association

To me he seems like Bill Clinton in the sense that he talks out of both sides of his mouth to deceive and gain votes. He lacks core convictions.

I put him in the McCain/Guiliani category. Certainly better than anyone the Demoncrats will put up, but nowhere near a candidate I would be enthusiastic about.

50 posted on 01/15/2006 10:34:40 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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