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Why frogs croak
The Anniston Star ^ | 01-15-2006

Posted on 01/15/2006 1:25:26 AM PST by presidio9

It appears global warming is not for the thin-skinned — and that’s bad news for amphibians. Frogs, toads, newts and the like have permeable skins, which makes them especially sensitive to environmental change. It also makes them good species to monitor to get an idea of the health of our planet.

In 2004, researchers conducting a global assessment concluded that almost a third of the world’s known amphibian species were threatened with extinction. Now, a new study suggests that global warming may be to blame for amphibians’ precarious state.

The study, published last week in the scientific journal Nature, found that a fungal disease is killing off tropical frogs in Latin America. Scientists believe large-scale warming is accelerating cloud formation in certain areas, causing nighttime temperatures to rise and daytime temperatures to fall — conditions that enable the frog-killing fungus to thrive.

To stop these excess clouds from gathering over tropical habitats, we’ll need to eliminate the fog of disinformation from current global warming debates.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aintgotnohome; animals; ecoping; globalwarmingtheory; justalonelyfrog; lesgrenouilles; wooowoowoo
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1 posted on 01/15/2006 1:25:28 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
thin skinned amphibian ?
they must be talking about Harry Belafonte
2 posted on 01/15/2006 1:26:45 AM PST by injin
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To: presidio9; GreenFreeper
It appears global warming is not for the thin-skinned — and that’s bad news for amphibians. Frogs, toads, newts and the like have permeable skins, which makes them especially sensitive to environmental change.

Is THAT why amphibians are one of the oldest groups of land animals on the evolutionary ladder? Gosh, who knew?

3 posted on 01/15/2006 1:29:44 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: presidio9
Wow, the first three sentences of this article are complete conjecture. And the next paragraph doesn't give even attempt to support the arguments made in the first.

Is the person who wrote this in the 6th grade?

L

4 posted on 01/15/2006 1:30:55 AM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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To: Lurker
Did you read on to the last sentence?

we’ll need to eliminate the fog of disinformation from current global warming debates.

Moment of clarity?

5 posted on 01/15/2006 1:32:16 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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6 posted on 01/15/2006 1:38:01 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: presidio9
Moment of irony.

L

7 posted on 01/15/2006 1:46:01 AM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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To: presidio9
Did you read on to the last sentence?

Yes, I did, and decided you had thrown it in at the end as a joke. Now I see that the guy who wrote it threw it in at the end as a joke. Or maybe he's just practicing saying totally off the wall things with a straight face in preparation for:

1. Running for US Senate.
or
2. Going to work for the NY Times.
8 posted on 01/15/2006 1:47:25 AM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Paleo Conservative

9 posted on 01/15/2006 1:48:44 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: presidio9
Does this frog croak at dawn?


10 posted on 01/15/2006 2:47:04 AM PST by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: A_Niceguy_in_CA

Let's get Alito confirmed. Then we can start wondering when Ruthie croaks (soon, hopefully).


11 posted on 01/15/2006 2:51:41 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: presidio9

It should be noted that this is an editorial. No facts or logic required.


12 posted on 01/15/2006 3:05:31 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: presidio9

Hey nice likeness of Ruth Bader Meinhof


13 posted on 01/15/2006 3:39:32 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: presidio9
<9>Why frogs croak

I heard moving cars are a reason.


14 posted on 01/15/2006 3:44:35 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: presidio9

"It appears global warming is not for the thin-skinned — and that’s bad news for amphibians."

I feel perfectly fine.


15 posted on 01/15/2006 3:46:54 AM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: presidio9
I was trying to be gentle with Ruthie and was only wondering if she made croaking sounds while most of us were still trying to sleep.

However, since she doesn't want to resign, perhaps she will literally croak and end the pain for herself and the majority of nearly 300,000,000 Americans today and millions more in future generations.

And Judge Alito was terrific and the Dem Senators shameful this past week.

16 posted on 01/15/2006 3:52:44 AM PST by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: Carry_Okie
I'm losing track now. Frogs -- global warming bad. Polar Bears -- global warming surprisingly not so bad. Fungus -- global warming good.

So, what do you plan to do about the weather?

17 posted on 01/15/2006 4:04:34 AM PST by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: presidio9
But....but, what if there >i>is no global warming?

What's the explanation then?

18 posted on 01/15/2006 4:11:42 AM PST by Allegra (I'm Wearing New Socks!)
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To: presidio9
But....but, what if there is no global warming?

What's the explanation then?

19 posted on 01/15/2006 4:12:09 AM PST by Allegra (I'm Wearing New Socks!)
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"What's the explanation then?"

found that a fungal disease is killing off tropical frogs in Latin America

Like the black plauge or the flu pandemic? A perfectly natural spread of a disease native to frogs.

20 posted on 01/15/2006 4:22:48 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Misuse of the Commerce Clause is the root of all Congressional evil)
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To: Allegra
Assuming that the hypothesis of the author is remotely close to correct (and I doubt it is) local climactic changes could be the cause instead of global climactic changes. See for example: NASA DATA SHOWS DEFORESTATION AFFECTS CLIMATE IN THE AMAZON

But just starting off assuming that a 1 or 2 degree shift in average temperature would cause the observed increase in amphibian fungal infections is kind of silly. Just moving a few miles away from a body of water, or increasing elevation can change the local climate average temperatures by a few degrees. So if temperature was the cause the amphibian fungal infections would track with the local microclimate, right? And that microclimate has been around for a long, long time -- like since the lake was formed, or the hills were pushed up by geological phenomena.

21 posted on 01/15/2006 4:42:29 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: MNJohnnie; freeandfreezing
I agree. That was just my way of saying I simply don't buy into all this global warming B.S.

I might raise the temperature a degree or two if I were to build a bonfire of all the unsold copies of Earth in the Balance, however.

22 posted on 01/15/2006 4:45:17 AM PST by Allegra (I'm Wearing New Socks!)
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To: Allegra

"What's the explanation then?"

They are prehistoric and should have died out years ago.

Only the french will miss them!


23 posted on 01/15/2006 4:53:09 AM PST by dalereed
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To: presidio9
Global warming is becoming the scapegoat for anything and everything that can't otherwise be explained.

How convenient!

24 posted on 01/15/2006 5:15:48 AM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: presidio9

Plants Bad for the Environment? Celebrities Causing Frogs to Croak?
Thursday, January 12, 2006

By Steven Milloy

Could it be that celebrities are planting the forests that are causing the global warming that is growing the bacteria that are wiping out the frogs?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181513,00.html


25 posted on 01/15/2006 5:22:37 AM PST by sergeantdave (And on the second day The Lord created February - the slowest month of the year.)
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To: presidio9

Some frogs will survive, some will die. New species will emerge who adapt to the new environment (if there is indeed a new one). Why do enviro-wackos who claim to believe in evolution have so little faith in it?


26 posted on 01/15/2006 5:47:38 AM PST by montag813
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To: presidio9
Why frogs croak

Okay - I'll be the first to say it: "because they don't know the words?"

27 posted on 01/15/2006 5:49:22 AM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: presidio9
Scientists believe large-scale warming is accelerating cloud formation in certain areas, causing nighttime temperatures to rise and daytime temperatures to fall

Can somebody explain how this theory would work.

If cloud cover were trapping daytime heat rather than releasing it to the atmosphere how does that make the daytime temps cooler.

I thought that was the whole principle behind global warming,the compounding effect of trapping heat at the Earths surface and lower atmosphere.

28 posted on 01/15/2006 5:51:16 AM PST by carlr
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To: presidio9
Why frogs croak

Oops, I thought this thread was about the death rate in France.......

29 posted on 01/15/2006 5:58:13 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (I break for pikas, swerve for skunks and accelerate for possum......squirrels I just shoot.)
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To: presidio9

On the old Hollywood Squares show Paul Lynne was asked "Do female frogs croak?" His answer; "Only when you hold their little heads under the water."


30 posted on 01/15/2006 6:07:25 AM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: presidio9

By a quick scan of the title, I thought the article was about the French....

what a disapointment..


31 posted on 01/15/2006 6:16:33 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: Lurker
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Wow, the first three sentences of this article are complete conjecture. And the next paragraph doesn't give even attempt to support the arguments made in the first.
Is the person who wrote this in the 6th grade?
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Uh, Lurker, think a bit.

(1) Wee frogs were long said to bellwether Global Warming.
(2) Now junk science says that wee-er creatures gather in great clouds over forests and are killing the wee frogs so now heat-loving fungi have become the bellwethers of Global Warning.
(3) Last week great plumes of methane were found rising over tropical vegetation, accounting for 20% of the methane
that science had previously attributed to vague sources.

Now go read the article "Why Frogs Croak".

Nice humor, huh?
32 posted on 01/15/2006 6:26:18 AM PST by the final gentleman
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To: Chanticleer
So, what do you plan to do about the weather?

It's cold today, so I'm planting buckeyes.

33 posted on 01/15/2006 7:19:57 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: presidio9

BTTT


34 posted on 01/15/2006 8:49:23 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: A_Niceguy_in_CA
True story:

My mom almost became a nun. She literally gets tears in her eyes when any of her children use the word "hate" in reference to another human being at the dinner table. Last night I had dinner with her, and we were talking about the role of the Alito nomination in Bush's legacy. I pointed out that RBG has colon cancer, and mom said "well, hopefully she'll die in the next three years, and President Bush can add one more appointment.
35 posted on 01/15/2006 10:18:42 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Well, a couple of years ago, elderly Frogs croaked because it was really hot and their families went on vacation without them.


36 posted on 01/15/2006 10:20:48 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Is THAT why amphibians are one of the oldest groups of land animals on the evolutionary ladder? Gosh, who knew?

yeah.

37 posted on 01/15/2006 10:22:41 AM PST by null and void (We are stardust, we are golden, and we've got to get ourselves back to the Garden)
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To: presidio9
For a whole month... in August!


38 posted on 01/15/2006 10:30:26 AM PST by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: GreenFreeper

Ping


39 posted on 01/15/2006 10:34:32 AM PST by RightWingAtheist ("Why thank you Mr.Obama, I'm proud to be a Darwinist!")
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To: Chanticleer

Not suprisingly, liberals blamed that on "global warming" too.


40 posted on 01/15/2006 11:02:06 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: carlr

Clouds do two opposite things: 1) they reflect incoming sunlight, preventing energy from reaching the surface and thus cooling the surface, and 2) they absorb radiation emitted from the surface, some of which is re-radiated downward and thus warms the surface.

In daytime, the cooling process dominates (depending on cloud type), while at night (no sunlight to reflect) the warming process dominates. Net result: cooler days, warmer nights, and a lower diurnal temperature range than if therre were no clouds.


41 posted on 01/15/2006 11:19:37 AM PST by A. Goodwin
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To: presidio9
I think that if I ever invented a time machine, the first thing I'd do is go back in time, find the first newspaper editor who allowed a pun to be used in a articles title, and kick his ass.

Seriously.

42 posted on 01/15/2006 11:22:53 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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Here, I'll save you some time. He is most likely either working for the NY Post or the NY Daily News.

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/anniversary/35th/n_8568/


43 posted on 01/15/2006 11:25:08 AM PST by presidio9 (Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.)
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To: presidio9
CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR (Senate fails to convict Clinton; News, 1999)

LOL Classic!

44 posted on 01/15/2006 11:50:29 AM PST by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: blam; Carry_Okie; Chanticleer; ClearCase_guy; cogitator; CollegeRepublican; ...
ECO-PING

FReepmail me to be added or removed to the ECO-PING list!

Is THAT why amphibians are one of the oldest groups of land animals on the evolutionary ladder? Gosh, who knew?

That which makes them sensitive to environmental change also makes them adaptable to new environments. You can't manage for a static planet!

45 posted on 01/15/2006 12:43:28 PM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: GreenFreeper
That which makes them sensitive to environmental change also makes them adaptable to new environments. You can't manage for a static planet!

Correct, not to mention that it's neither physically nor genetically beneficial to try.

46 posted on 01/15/2006 12:51:18 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: presidio9

Frog's croak because they surrender to genocidal maniacs bent on creating an Islamic theocracy in Europe.

And then find out that the way to do so is to eliminate the prior inhabitants.

:-)

(Although a tiny minority of Frog's croak due to old age.)


47 posted on 01/15/2006 1:07:39 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: the final gentleman
3) Last week great plumes of methane were found rising over tropical vegetation, accounting for 20% of the methane that science had previously attributed to vague sources. Two things

I din't know Washington D.C had tropical vegetation??

And I wouldn't describe Democrat Senators on the Judicary Committee as "vague sources

They are known the world over for generating large amounts of methane

48 posted on 01/15/2006 2:11:46 PM PST by HP8753 (My cat thinks Mark Dayton is a flake)
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To: Salamander
.."and that’s bad news for amphibians... I feel perfectly fine."...I'm glad you are. :))
49 posted on 01/15/2006 2:30:28 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: montag813
I'm an enviro wacko who does NOT believe in evolution. What you speak of is natural selection. Fungus-resistant frogs will have offspring that are fungus resistant. And on and on. And in a thousand generations they will still be ... frogs!

Who'da thunk that?

50 posted on 01/15/2006 5:15:43 PM PST by manwiththehands (Good news for America = bad news for democRats)
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