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91,700 abortions in (NYC)city [40 out of 100 pregnancies ended in a planned abortion]
NY DAILY NEWS ^ | January 15, 2006 | BY PAUL H.B. SHIN

Posted on 01/15/2006 5:01:56 AM PST by johnny7

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God Almighty...
1 posted on 01/15/2006 5:02:01 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7

It may be discouraging, but it's not surprising. I remember the pre-Roe days, and this is history repeating itself.


2 posted on 01/15/2006 5:04:06 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: johnny7

Over 40 Million Abortions
in U.S. since 1973

There have been more than 40 million abortions in the twenty six years since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized unrestricted abortion on January 22, 1973.

Except when noted, the following statistics are based on research published by the Alan Guttmacher Institute, special research affiliate of Planned Parenthood Federation of America--the nation's largest provider and promoter of abortion. Estimates for 1997 and 1998 are based on trends from previous years.

In the past, AGI has estimated a possible 3-6% rate of underreporting. The following uses the lower figure.





Year Annual Number of Abortions
1973 744,600
1974 898,600
1975 1,034,200
1976 1,179,300
1977 1,316,700

1978 1,409,600
1979 1,497,700
1980 1,553,900
1981 1,577,300
1982 1,573,900

1983 1,575,000
1984 1,577,200
1985 1,588,600
1986 1,574,000
1987 1,559,100

1988 1,590,800
1989 1,566,900
1990 1,608,600
1991 1,556,500
1992 1,528,900

1993 1,500,000
1994 1,431,0000
1995 1,363,690
1996 1,365,730
1997 1,328,000
1998 1,328,000 Estimate
1999 1,328,000 Estimate
2000 1,328,000 Estimate
2001 1,328,000 Estimate
Total abortions from1973 to 1998 -- 38,010,378
(Based on numbers and estimates reported by the Alan Guttmacher Institute 1973-1996,with NRLC
estimates of 1,365,730 for 1997 and 1998. AGI estimates a possible 3% underreporting rate,
which is factored into the total.)
Source for statistics for 1973 through 1992: Stanley K. Henshaw, et al.,"Abortions Services in the United States, 1991 and 1992," Family Planning Perspectives, vol.26, no.3 (May/June 1994), p.101.


3 posted on 01/15/2006 5:05:02 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: johnny7

How smart is that...aborting your state into oblivion. They'll not only have God's sure punishment, but they will have less and less representation in Congress. Liberals would be extinct if conservative parents boycotted the Left's brain-washing factories, called "universities."


4 posted on 01/15/2006 5:05:37 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: johnny7

It would seem that the Left, as a whole, is even more suicidal than we thought.


5 posted on 01/15/2006 5:05:40 AM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: johnny7

How many electoral votes will NY have in 20 years?


6 posted on 01/15/2006 5:06:04 AM PST by Jim Noble (Fiat justitia, ruat coelum)
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To: Jim Noble

Did you read the whole article? The point is that women are beginning to travel in order to obtain abortions that are more difficult to get at home. They go back to their red states once they have traveled to New York.


7 posted on 01/15/2006 5:07:44 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: johnny7

Maybe there is a reason why we have an illegal invasion, who will pay for social security?


8 posted on 01/15/2006 5:08:45 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: johnny7

Good grief that is astounding and also scary that many women have become something that even the animal world would not become.


9 posted on 01/15/2006 5:12:09 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: kittymyrib

It is called the Roe Effect,conservative parents are very likely to have conservative kids and not abortions. Lib are likely to raise their kids lib and are more likely to have abortions. To be blunt we are out breeding them.


10 posted on 01/15/2006 5:12:14 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: johnny7

It's disgusting the way those people use abortion as if it is birth control.

Hello, ever hear of a condom?

This is just repulsive to me on the most basic human level. Those people have no inner spark, no soul.


11 posted on 01/15/2006 5:13:01 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: johnny7

Real, real sad news. Wonder if Senator Kennedy is happy with this. MLK day and all races, genders wanted RIGHTS..but still none for the unborn. TR


12 posted on 01/15/2006 5:16:28 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: linda_22003

It says that less than 2% are out of towners. Your confusion is generated by speculation by the NARAL witches that out-of-towners "might" increase in the future, which of course is reported as fact by the article.


13 posted on 01/15/2006 5:16:50 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

And it also said that that 2% figure is a 20% increase over the previous year.


14 posted on 01/15/2006 5:17:57 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: johnny7

They're using abortion as birth control. Too lazy to take pills or keep their pants on. And God forbid the man wear a condom.


15 posted on 01/15/2006 5:18:14 AM PST by hershey
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To: Dustbunny

you are right. btw, just try to touch a cats kittens and watch how the mother fights like a banshee to protect her kids. in a factory i once owned, a stray cat made her home in a storage area, some fifteen feet up in the air on a bunch of pallets. she had kittens. we only knew this because of the yelps. when i climbed up there to get a look, she attacked me like i was the devil. she was a good mother, unlike so many humans. sad indeed. btw, we all fed her and i eventually paid over one thousand in vet bills for her and the little kittens.


16 posted on 01/15/2006 5:21:18 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I don't agree with first time abortions, but I can kind of understand someone being young and thinking that would solve their problem. You would think after someone has one they would never want another one. So many of those women are repeats. It is disgusting. Who would want to keep going through that? Natural miscarriages are hurtful enough--what kind of person wants to keep doing it deliberately over and over again?!?


17 posted on 01/15/2006 5:21:28 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: linda_22003

Actually the article states only 2% are from out of town. The argument that the increase in number of abortions is because of out-of-towners is misleading.


19 posted on 01/15/2006 5:23:24 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: beaversmom

That part is pretty hard to understand. Moral considerations aside, the sheer expense of abortion vs. contraception would seem to be a deterrent.


20 posted on 01/15/2006 5:24:11 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Just mythoughts

yours is a perfect post. if you look at the immigration stats for those years, america has replaced its own children with immigrants bascially on a one for one basis, this would include illegals. somehow, this math is what the govt or left wont tell you about. some fifty million american babies murdered and replaced by some fifty million foreigners, most of whom have questionable loyalty imo, what a deal huh?


22 posted on 01/15/2006 5:24:26 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Shakedown Street

Not true.


23 posted on 01/15/2006 5:24:59 AM PST by md2576
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To: EBH

See post #14.


24 posted on 01/15/2006 5:26:12 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: johnny7

Sickening and outrageous.


25 posted on 01/15/2006 5:26:23 AM PST by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: Shakedown Street

Mississippi and North Dakota are just two of the states that would be very disappointed to hear that.


26 posted on 01/15/2006 5:27:18 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: johnny7
An infant mortality rate of better than 40%, for all pregnancies in New York City.

I'll hope that the Left is damned proud of that.

May the purveyors of such destruction suffer vicious Earthly agony during a long life and perpetual flames and torture in Hellish eternity.

27 posted on 01/15/2006 5:28:00 AM PST by Thumper1960 (The enemy within: Demoncrats and DSA.ORG Sedition is a Liberal "family value".)
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To: son of caesar
No longer is the oath to the Constitution, rather to a 'system' of government, redistribution of wealth. That living evolving constitution is filled with hidden ghosts giving and taking rights that originally were attributed to the Creator.

Judging Alito this past week demonstrates who the seers of hidden ghosts are. Shameful state of affairs in many high places.
28 posted on 01/15/2006 5:30:38 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Shakedown Street

So then it only depends on what you mean as "hard" i suppose.


30 posted on 01/15/2006 5:32:27 AM PST by md2576
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To: linda_22003

2% of 91700... is 1834 abortions from out of state.

Of that 1834 indicates a 20% increase over previous out of state levels.

89866 abortions by people who live in NY then. The 2% is more like an over emphasized anomoly than the reason the abortion number is soooo very high in NY.


31 posted on 01/15/2006 5:32:56 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: linda_22003

My sister's friend traveled to get an abortion her first year in college. We are from a small own and she traveled to the city for anonymity. I am sure that is the main reason people travel to NY. It is easy to tell mom and dad you are going to the city to see a show and instead get an abortion. IMO.


32 posted on 01/15/2006 5:34:11 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Here we go Steelers, here we go!!)
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To: linda_22003
Did you read the whole article? The point is that women are beginning to travel in order to obtain abortions that are more difficult to get at home. They go back to their red states once they have traveled to New York.

Can you do math? The number of out of state abortions increased from .5% to .7% of abortions (or from .2 to .33 of total pregnancies). This is hardly the driving number in the 40% figure.

The media is just trying to put a spin on it, attributing the increase to out-of-town women, and you fell for it, hook line and sinker.

33 posted on 01/15/2006 5:35:36 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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The purpose of abortion is simple --- to kill the child. Sometimes, however, things go "wrong" and the child actually survives.

LifeNews.com Note: The following is based on an interview 28 year-old Gianna Jessen gave to the Independent, a newspaper in the UK.

My biological mother was seven-and-a-half months pregnant when she decided to abort me. I don't know why she made that decision. It was 1977. She and my biological father were 17 at the time and weren't married.

She went to a clinic in Los Angeles and had a saline abortion. A salt solution is injected into the mother's womb, which the baby gulps. The solution also burns the baby inside and out. The idea was that within 24 hours she would deliver a dead baby. But, by the grace of God, I survived.

The abortionist wasn't on duty when I came into the world. Had he been there, he would have ended my life with strangulation, suffocation or leaving me there to die, which was considered perfectly legal up until 5 August 2002 in the United States. Now, a child who has survived an abortion must receive proper medical care. The abortionist had to sign my birth certificate. He had to acknowledge a life that just hours before he was trying to end.

The only person even remotely concerned about my well-being was the nurse. She called an ambulance and had me transferred to a hospital. I was placed in an incubator weighing two pounds. They didn't expect me to live.

After several months they decided that I had a tremendous will to live. I was placed in the foster care system and at 17 months was diagnosed with cerebral palsy due to lack of oxygen while I was being burnt alive for 18 hours in my mother's womb. I was 32lbs, couldn't move and they said that I would just be a vegetable for the rest of my life.

My foster mother, Penny, decided that despite what the doctors were saying, she would work with me. She did my physical therapy three times a day and I began to hold up my head, sit up and crawl. Eventually, at the age of three-and-a-half, I was able to walk with a walker and leg braces. That was the age at which Penny's daughter, Diana, who was then in her thirties, adopted me.

I'm 28 now and work as a musician in Nashville, Tennessee. I still walk with a limp and fall occasionally. But I've just completed my first marathon and will be running the London Marathon next April to raise funds for children with cerebral palsy. I'll be running on behalf of Stars Organization Supporting Cerebral Palsy.

Diana told me about my past. I had always had this sense that there was more to my life story. I was always asking her why I had cerebral palsy. You would have thought that I would be fine with her answers because I was a premature baby or that I had experienced a traumatic birth.

But when I asked her again when I was 12 she asked me whether I really wanted to know and I said yes. When she explained it to me, my reply was typical of a 12-year-old. I just said, at least I have cerebral palsy for an interesting reason. My mother said a good thing: that instead of focusing on the fact that you almost died, rejoice in the fact that you are alive. And I do.

When I was 17, Diana met my biological mother and communicated very clearly to her my forgiveness. I'm a Christian. I believe that bitterness eats up your life. I want to be the opposite of bitter. I never wanted to meet her. Penny has loved me so well I don't feel the need. I don't know much about the meeting, only that she didn't ask for forgiveness from me and that she had another abortion later.

I started speaking out about abortion when I was 14, and on Tuesday I will be speaking to a parliamentary meeting at the House of Commons about it. I believe that it's important when something like this has happened to you to present the truth about not just abortion, but also about what a tremendous life you can possess through overcoming weakness.

I don't believe that killing is a right. I am completely against abortion in any circumstance, including rape.

Even though rape is a horrific crime I do not believe that a child should have to pay for the crime. I don't believe that abortion in that case will solve a problem. In fact I have met people who are the product of rape and they say they are very glad to be alive. If abortion is merely about women's rights then what were mine? There wasn't a radical feminist yelling about how my rights were being violated on that day.

Every day I thank God for life. I do not consider myself a by-product of conception, a clump of tissue, or any other of the titles given to a child in the womb. I do not consider any person conceived to be any of those things. I have met other survivors of abortion. They are all thankful for life.

Today, a baby is a baby when convenient. It is tissue or otherwise when the time is not right. A baby is a baby when miscarriage takes place at two, three, four months. A baby is called a tissue or clumps of cells when an abortion takes place at two, three, four months. Why is that? I see no difference.

I believe that I am living proof that abortion is the killing of a human being. My biological mother felt that she was entitled to a choice 28 years ago that she thought would only affect her. And yet I bear the mark of her choice every day of my life with my cerebral palsy. Although I don't hold it against her, I think it's important for people to think about that before they make their decision.


34 posted on 01/15/2006 5:36:11 AM PST by md2576
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To: Shakedown Street

I noticed the wording, they are from out of town not state and the writer is speculating what MIGHT happen if Alito is confirmed. Nice.


35 posted on 01/15/2006 5:36:37 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Here we go Steelers, here we go!!)
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To: Shakedown Street

There is just one in each state. All I said was that the article reports that out of area abortions increased by 20% in the past year. It *may* be an indicator, weasel word or not. It is definitely the way things were pre-1973.


36 posted on 01/15/2006 5:36:52 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Just mythoughts

agreed and you put it quite clearly. it is a system of govt with no spirit. as we know, a body with no spirit dies quickly. very sad indeed.


37 posted on 01/15/2006 5:37:13 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: gridlock

As I said, I am willing to believe it, because of my memory of how things were in the "old days". WV Mountain Mama shares the same memories.


39 posted on 01/15/2006 5:38:25 AM PST by linda_22003
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Oh, nevermind. Reading the rest of your posts, it is quite clear that you want to be fooled. No use arguing with somebody who wants to be wrong.


41 posted on 01/15/2006 5:39:59 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: gridlock

Someone woke up cranky this morning! :) Hope the day goes better for you.


42 posted on 01/15/2006 5:40:42 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

Actually, I am having a great day. I intend to keep it that way.


43 posted on 01/15/2006 5:42:54 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Those people have no inner spark, no soul.

Certainly no 'divine spark'!

44 posted on 01/15/2006 5:43:01 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: Shakedown Street
Just because the closest clinic may be hours away, doesn't make it "hard."

True, in retrospect, the killing of a baby should be a lot harder. I was just saying that it depends on what you believe is hard. At least it isn't as easy in MI and ND as it is in NY

45 posted on 01/15/2006 5:44:41 AM PST by md2576
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To: linda_22003

No, I don't. I do not believe that the women are coming from out of state to get an abortion. I do believe the come from out of town because it will remain more anonymous. That isn't because it is harder to get one in smaller towns, it is because someone may find out about it easier in a small town. That is much different reason than not being able to get one because of the laws making it difficult. And very different from trying to scare unimformed readers of what may happen if Alito is confirmed.

In 1973, I was 3, and by reading your posts we don't really have anything in common.


46 posted on 01/15/2006 5:46:34 AM PST by WV Mountain Mama (Judging from your posts, your IQ tests results are in. They came back negative.)
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To: son of caesar
This seems to be an inappropriate analogy [IMHO] for the following reasons:

1. The cat's protection of her kittens that were already born is different than the abortion of a fetus.
2. Humans have been endowed with free will to make choices.Conversely, animals have been preprogrammed to do certain things to sustain their species.

47 posted on 01/15/2006 5:50:56 AM PST by verity (The MSM is a National disgrace.)
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To: johnny7

Weren't liberals supposed to make abortions legal and rare?

Of course, pro-abortion candidates claim that abortions when up under President Bush.


48 posted on 01/15/2006 5:52:42 AM PST by Kuksool
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To: linda_22003

For the middle and upper-middle class it doesn't matter - most major medical insurers will pay for it.

I was quite disgusted, but not at all surprised, to learn that my own insurance would pay 100% for an elective abortion - yet a common hormonal contraceptive costs me $20/month copay plus about $250/year in premiums towards prescription drug coverage (to be fair, the premiums cover both me and my husband).

Of course this doesn't work for high schoolers or college students still on their parents' insurance, because then Mom and Dad would see the insurance statements. Abortion is covered by insurers for those women who should know better - women who are educated, who work, and who ought to know that if they're having sex at a time in life where children are not wanted, they need to use contraception.


49 posted on 01/15/2006 5:53:20 AM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: md2576
Your story is moving. Tell it to as many people as you can.

Have you considered a video or book? I am sure that there are many Christian organizations that would be willing defray the costs and help distribute it.
50 posted on 01/15/2006 5:53:30 AM PST by Lucky Dog
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