Skip to comments.91,700 abortions in (NYC)city [40 out of 100 pregnancies ended in a planned abortion]
Posted on 01/15/2006 5:01:56 AM PST by johnny7
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Please tell me this figure is wrong.
Hey you are being intolerant when you suggest that the "natives" in the New World didn't live in the most peaceful of Utopia's!
We all know they had no problems, an abundance of food, and a just society, living in complete harmony with nature and beast.
Yes, God Almighty.
Remind me to never again go to New York.
I recall a time that, even without a slight degree of parental supervision and/or morality involved, most females who were not intentionally engaged in having a family avoided having sex with any male because they did not want to get pregnant.
Women used to avoid sex as long as possible to avoid becoming pregnant, is my point. Even aside from religious convictions and/or any other moral motivation, the key thing was that people exercised a greater degree of sexual controls prior to the availability of "abortion on demand," AND, also, most males would, too, to avoid the responsibilities. Those that didn't were undesirable by most girls and were known to be predators, irresponsible, not who you'd want to marry.
People can avoid unwanted pregnancies by avoiding consequential sexual intercourse. What we have today is a whole few generations who never learned about consequences, unfortunately, unaware that they're living on after their "abortions" as murderers, and yet not without penalty to come.
"And, remember that to many abortion is a religion, almost a sacrament (blood sacrifice?) to their "god" of international socialism/anti-Christian/anti-capitalist world order!"
Remember Baal worship, with the fire in the belly of the golden calf?
Why do you suggest this is a case of "red states" versus New York, "blue states."
You're missing the actual facts, additionally, of the story itself. Two percent of abortions being conducted on those from "out of state" could refer to people from Brazil, Tijera Del Fuego, London or wherever.
I understand that. I am probably anticipating a trend, based on history. I remember pre-1973 very well. Do you?
Yes, and illegal immigration has increased by even greater percentages. New York is among the most popular of destinations for immigrants of both the legal and the illegal kind.
Why do you ask?
And what "trend" is that?
Abortions anywhere, including in New York and your fancied "blue states" otherwise were as illegal pre-1973 as they were in "red states."
Are you a feminist? A Democrat?
Any idea how many poor Mississippi women travelled up to New York City for an abortion?
I wonder where Mississippi women who want abortions go to get them. And I wonder what woman would travel to NYC for an abortion. What states near NYC have restrictive abortion policies? Are abortion-promoters sending women to NYC?
Abortions were legal in some states, including New York prior to 1973- it was a state issue pre-Roe, and will be again when/if Roe is overturned.
There are also just two major airports in those states. Imagine that. Only half as many abortion clinics as airports. Surely there are more pregnant women needing abortions than ordinary people who need to hop on a plane and fly somewhere, right?
Since abortion is every bit as legal as airplane travel (not to mention potentially much more profitable), you're going to have to consider something called "supply and demand"...instead of muttering darkly about deja vu.
I also remember the pre-Roe days, and this is nothing like them.
I meant the abortion trend, not the immigration trend. New York was THE place to go, pre-Roe.
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Yeah... I remember. I also remember 'the pill'.
O.K., thanks for sharing that.
Well, "feminist" around here is used as a curse word. I am a feminist in that I believe women should be able to vote, hold professional jobs, have their own credit, and have the same rights and responsibilities as men. Around here, it seems to mean "man-hater", "lesbian", and other things I am not.
I am not a Democrat; I am primarily a fiscal/business conservative, and not a social conservative. I am not a Republican, either, since I live in Virginia and we do not have registration by party here. I think it would be beneficial if more states were like that!
"temple of Huitzilopochtli"
For some reason, your graphic is totally black on my screen. Is everybody else seeing it correctly?
"Abortions anywhere, including in New York and your fancied "blue states" otherwise were as illegal pre-1973 as they were in "red states.""
That's actually not true. The first legalized abortion law was signed in California by Ronald Reagan in 1967. New York followed in 1970, and two others I would have to look up had also legalized it before 1973. The trend in states was toward legalization when the Supreme Court short-circuited the process. Abortion proponents would have been better off waiting for state legislatures to do their job.
Oh my goodness! Your story brought me to tears!!!
God Bless you and all you do. I pray for your mother and thank God for your adoptive parents.
Godspeed, my FRiend.
That's odd. I'm a Republican, and I live in Virginia. I think our two senators are Republican as well. And the Lieutenant Governor and Attorney General.
Sure do. And I was pro-abortion in those days.
I see no resemblance whatsoever to that time now. Unfortunately.
I agree times have changed. Travel is cheaper and long-distance travel is more common.
And, **I** meant the immigration trend, and the illegal immigration trend. And to New York and why.
New York has always been a magnet for immigrants of the legal kind for obvious, official and legal reasons, but the illegal immigration trend today is to go to NYC and NY state for easy secondary-economy employment, housing, free social goods and services with or without legal status.
And, thus, a good guess as to who those increased "2% visitors" to New York are is almost certainly a larger number of illegal immigrants. You concluded it was a "red state" versus the default-NewYork-"blue state" issue while I'm asking, why conclude thusly?
Given NY's reputation and status as immigrant and illegal immigrant magnet and secondary economy, it's no surprise that the ever increasing demands are for everything there, given the ever increasing immigration problem to NY, especially.
Then if you live in Virginia and are a voter, you also know you did not declare a party yourself when you registered.
I think we all remember that, since it's very much in use. Do you mean you remember its introduction? That's before my time.
Yup. But just because I do not have to register as a Republican does not make me any less a Republican.
I do not know the answer to that. As to where Mississippi women get them now, I suppose that if not in Jackson, then in neighboring states. The CDC Abortion Surveillance report gives statistics by state; you might see if neighboring states have seemingly elevated rates compared to their own population.
Heavenly Father, in Your love for us, protect against the wickedness of the devil, those helpless little ones to whom You have given the gift of life.
Touch with pity the hearts of those women pregnant in our world today who are not thinking of motherhood.
Help them to see that the child they carry is made in Your image - as well as theirs - made for eternal life.
Dispel their fear and selfishness and give them true womanly hearts to love their babies and give them birth and all the needed care that a mother can give.
We ask this through Jesus Christ, Your Son, Our Lord, Who lives and reigns with You and Holy Spirit, One God, forever and ever. Amen.
Then in that case, I would say I'd register Independent if that were an option. I voted Republican for my Congressman, and I generally do, for "business" conservatives.
Well, I voted in the RAT presidential primary in 2004. It was great fun.
Let's kill my baby...a form of birth control...talk about sick...
It's almost beyond belief.
The first one they'd had in several years, if I recall correctly. :) I didn't.
**I don't believe that killing is a right. I am completely against abortion in any circumstance, including rape.**
May God bless you abundantly! Thank you for sharing your story!
He did make clear in a later post that this is not *his* story. If he had put quotation marks around it, he would have saved some people confusion.
Yes, I remember my joy in 1971, when Pa and Ma finally traded the buckboard and team for an old used car. Gosh, it was liked we owned the road. NOBODY was a-travelin' back then, compared to now.
That 30-cents-a-gallon gas was like to put us in the poorhouse, but we didn't mind cutting back on food and clothing and medicine to get the tank filled.
I simply cannot believe that in this day and age, with the myriad of contaceptives available and easily accessible, that there are so many stupid, irresponsible and lazy people out there doing this. Plenty of doctors are providing the service as well, obviously! I just don't know how these people (the women AND the doctors) live with themselves. I couldn't.
I didn't see that post. Thanks.
Prayer shuts these "Houses of Killing" down. Continue to pray and if you can, joing one of the groups near your home praying across the street from the Planned Parenthood places.
Prayer shuts these "Houses of Killing" down. Continue to pray and if you can, join one of the groups near your home praying across the street from the Planned Parenthood places.
Even in the article it says: "The following is based on an interview 28 year-old Gianna Jessen gave to the Independent"
Guess I just missed it.
Homicidal might be a better term.
Thank you for that beautiful post. This article and thread are most depressing.
Those numbers are just disturbing.
Do they really tolerate that locally?
I'm at work, so I don't really have time to catch you up on a decade or two of legislative restrictions and clinic closings, state by state. :)
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