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Blanco: Netherlands trip could help with future flood protection (Vacation pics!)
KATC ^ | 1/13/06

Posted on 01/15/2006 7:31:50 AM PST by Libloather

Blanco: Netherlands trip could help with future flood protection


U. S. Congressman, William Jefferson, D-La., right, pauses during a press event at Kurhaus in Scheveningen, the Netherlands, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 2006. At left are, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco and U.S. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., center. (AP Photo/Bas Czerwinski)

BATON ROUGE, La. Governor Kathleen Blanco says a trip to the Netherlands to study the flood control systems for the below sea-level nation showed Louisiana officials engineering marvels that could be used in future flood protection for the New Orleans area.

Blanco returned a day earlier from her visit to the country with Louisiana's two U-S senators, Mary Landrieu and David Vitter, and other government and business leaders in a 50-member delegation. The delegation met with Dutch leaders about the Netherlands' unified approach to storm protection.

She said she learned Louisiana needs to work more closely with the U-S Army Corps of Engineers to shore up its hurricane protection.

Holland recently completed a 50-year program to build dams, sea walls, and surge barriers designed to protect the south of the country against almost any storm. It includes the twin rotating gates that can seal the mouth of Rotterdam's harbor against a storm surge and the set of 62 big gates that can close off the Oosterschelde estuary in Zeeland.

Blanco says the Dutch leaders she met were amazed that questions were raised in America about how much flood protection should be given to the New Orleans area.

A second group of Gulf Coast officials, largely from southwestern Louisiana and east Texas, is planning to make a similar trip to the Netherlands in March.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blanco; bus; buses; flood; future; help; hundredsofbuses; hurricane; junk; junkit; katrina; lostbuses; netherlands; new; orleans; pics; protection; trip; vacation

U.S. delegates William Jefferson (L), David Vitters (2nd L), Governor Kathleen Blanco (3rd R), Senator Mary Landrieu (2nd R) and Dutch crown Prince Willem-Alexander listen as an unidentified man explains the working of the Maeslandkeering by means of a scale model during an excursion to study flood-control systems in Hoek van Holland, the Netherlands, January 11, 2006. The Netherlands' ambassador to the U.S. invited Landrieu and a delegation including political, business and education leaders after Hurricane Katrina broke floodgates and levees, flooding most of New Orleans and all of neighbouring St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes. REUTERS/Michael Kooren


The U.S. delegation, led by Sen. Mary L. Landrieu (4th L) and Dutch Crown Prince Willem-Alexander (5th L), walks past the Maeslandkeering during an excursion to study flood-control systems in Hoek van Holland, the Netherlands, January 11, 2006. Also pictured are; Senator David Vitter (2nd L), Dutch vice minister Melanie Schultz van Haegen, and Governor Kathleen Blanco (centre with black hat). REUTERS/Michael Kooren


Dutch Crown Prince Willem-Alexander, left, U.S. Sen. David Vitter, center, and U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu , right, during a visit at the Maeslant Barrier gates near Hoek van Holland, the Netherlands, Wednesday, Jan. 11, 2006. A delegation of 50 U.S. goverment officials, academics and business representives is on a three-day tour in the Netherlands to study flood prevention techniques in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. The American visitors are focusing their attention on the so-called Delta Project, a 50-year project that constructed dikes, giant sea walls and flood gates that keep the low-lying country dry. The project was built after a similar flood in the Netherlands in 1953 left around 1,800 people dead. U.S. lawmakers Mary Landrieu, David Vitter and Bill Jefferson, and Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco are leading officials on the visit. (AP Photo/Bas Czerwinski)


Media film from the MS Arca ship in front of the Maeslant Barrier gates in the Nieuwe Waterweg near Hoek van Holland, the Netherlands, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 2006. (AP Photo/Bas Czerwinski)


From left: U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu, Dutch Vice Minister for Transport, Public Works and Water Management Melanie Schultz van Haegen, and Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco during a press event at Kurhaus in Scheveningen, the Netherlands, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 2006. (AP Photo/Bas Czerwinski)


From left: U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu, Dutch Vice Minister for Transport, Public Works and Water Management Melanie Schultz van Haegen, and Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco during a press conference at Kurhaus in Scheveningen, the Netherlands, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 2006. (AP Photo/Bas Czerwinski)


Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco, left, and Dutch Vice Minister for Transport, Public Works and Water Management Melanie Schultz van Haegen, right, during a press event at Kurhaus in Scheveningen, the Netherlands, Tuesday, Jan. 10, 2006. (AP Photo/Bas Czerwinski)

1 posted on 01/15/2006 7:31:55 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

How much did this trip cost taxpayers?


2 posted on 01/15/2006 7:33:09 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Libloather

I am sure the corps already knows what to do.


3 posted on 01/15/2006 7:34:56 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Libloather

We pay for their vacation and I bet we don't even get a t-shirt.


4 posted on 01/15/2006 7:35:00 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mewzilla
Doesn't matter. Next stop ..... Venice, Italy. All aboard!!!
5 posted on 01/15/2006 7:35:25 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: mtbopfuyn
new high tech solution for LA
6 posted on 01/15/2006 7:36:06 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Libloather

Blanco has got to be one of the ugliest women alive. (No pics of Halfbright, please!)


7 posted on 01/15/2006 7:36:18 AM PST by xrp
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To: Libloather

We pay for their vacation and I bet we don't even get a t-shirt.


8 posted on 01/15/2006 7:36:19 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Libloather

Are they afraid to look at each other (pic #3)


9 posted on 01/15/2006 7:36:25 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Libloather
Just your standard, run-of-the-mill Junket - A luxurious vacation masquerading as a 'Fact Finding' trip. I suggest they watch the Discovery Channel and save us all the money and anger over their arrogance.
10 posted on 01/15/2006 7:36:25 AM PST by TCats
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To: Libloather

Are they afraid to look at each other (last pic)


11 posted on 01/15/2006 7:36:46 AM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Libloather

What is the point of sending politicians, and women politicians at that, to "study" engineering?

Is it possible to put enough zeros to the right of the decimal place to express the vanishingly tiny probability that they understood even a scintilla of what they were being shown?

I'm sure no pocket calculator could express such a tiny number.


12 posted on 01/15/2006 7:38:30 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: Libloather

This is what we used to call a boondogle!

It accomplishes nothing. It's a waste of taxpayers money. And it provides press coverage/vacation trip to politicians who screwed the situation up in the first place.

Their next trip should be to prison!


13 posted on 01/15/2006 7:39:20 AM PST by DakotaGator
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To: Libloather

...I can't determine if Blanko looks indefinitely stupid, or extremely jealous in this photo

Doogle

14 posted on 01/15/2006 7:39:36 AM PST by Doogle (USAF...8thAF...4077th TFW...408th MMS...Ubon Thailand..."69"..Night Line Delivery,AMMO)
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To: mtbopfuyn
This was nothing but a big photo-op. In today's world, you don't have to travel someplace to get a first hand look. There are many other methods that would have sufficed just fine.
15 posted on 01/15/2006 7:40:20 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: Doogle

Both.


16 posted on 01/15/2006 7:41:52 AM PST by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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To: Libloather
The American visitors are focusing their attention on the so-called Delta Project, a 50-year project that constructed dikes, giant sea walls and flood gates that keep the low-lying country dry.

A 50 year project? Just think of the possibilities for cost-overruns, graft, kickbacks, etc., etc. I bet they were squirming with delight.

17 posted on 01/15/2006 7:42:19 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Libloather

How many Category 4 hurricanes has the Dutch system withstood?


18 posted on 01/15/2006 7:42:57 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Libloather

The Dutch were unsure as Blanco broke down blubbering if they were tears of joy, exhaustion, fear, sadness, or the effects of an Amsterdam withdrawel kicking in.


19 posted on 01/15/2006 7:44:11 AM PST by sully777 (Blame Canada!)
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To: Doogle


Blanco (with worried, questionable look): "What the hell are the taxpayers back in my district going to think of this trip...."
20 posted on 01/15/2006 7:45:35 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: Libloather


Well...let me just say firstly, that, the Americans have never come to us asking for advice before, so frankly, we are thrilled..."
21 posted on 01/15/2006 7:47:53 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: dsc
What is the point of sending politicians, and women politicians at that, to "study" engineering?

That was my first thought. The story does indicate that "academics" were present but gives no indication who they were. If Blanco & Co. were truly interested in the Dutch model for flood control then they would have sent a team of civil engineers to study the system and report back on whether it would work for NO. As it is, this is just a "Look--we're doing something...ANYTHING!" junket.

22 posted on 01/15/2006 7:47:53 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: rs79bm
What the hell are the taxpayers back in my district going to think of this trip....

She's probably also thinking,:

"Shoot, the New Orleans cops are taking trips to Vegas, and here I am, in Europe, in the middle of January, looking at a bunch of stuff I know nothing about. "

23 posted on 01/15/2006 7:49:40 AM PST by csvset
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To: Libloather

Here's a clue, Kathleen. The Dutch actually built levees strong enough and high enough to keep the water out. Next time just shoot me an email when you've got a question.


24 posted on 01/15/2006 7:49:55 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Libloather

"Where can I score some of that bud weed and a woman at? "

25 posted on 01/15/2006 7:54:47 AM PST by csvset
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To: Libloather
After their brief fact-finding mission, Blanco and her entourage took a side-trip.


26 posted on 01/15/2006 7:56:13 AM PST by varyouga (I no longer fear death. I only fear the day when the DUmmies take over.)
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To: Libloather

Send engineers, not politicians.

Next stops: Pisa, to get ideas on fixing up old leaning buildings; Rome, to look at the Coliseum to get new ideas for the Superdome; Paris, to look at a unique tower design for cell phones; London, since they have water near them; Hong Kong, since they have even more water; and Hawaii, since they have even more water than anyone, and to get advice on what to do if a volcano pops up in NOLA.


27 posted on 01/15/2006 7:59:14 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Libloather

Call Donald next time, Kathleen.

28 posted on 01/15/2006 8:00:46 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: Libloather

Blanco: Netherlands trip could help with future flood protection


----The only hope for help with future flood protection is to get rid of the ones (Blanco, Nagin, and who ever else that was involved)that mismanaged/embezzled the money that could have gone on better protection to start with.


29 posted on 01/15/2006 8:02:42 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: WasDougsLamb

Hey, did they forget to take Mayor Ray along with them?? He's an expert on this stuff, too. "Abandon ship!!!'


30 posted on 01/15/2006 8:06:06 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Libloather
You know, that group could have saved the hassle of that trip if they had bothered to read the February 2006 issue of Popular Science. This issue had a long article on how to prevent further flood disasters in New Orleans with five good ideas on just how to do it.
31 posted on 01/15/2006 8:08:27 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: xrp

Moon's daughter is no prize either. Combine her looks with her attitude and she could make a train take a dirt road.


32 posted on 01/15/2006 8:09:10 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: mewzilla

Before this hurricane in NO, I never thought of anything about NO problem. Why should I. Is it something that I should have on my mind living in California? But as for the Senators, Governor, Mayor, and other NO politicians, where was their head? Oh, I see, brain dead! It's about time they stopped blaming everyone but themselves for their problem. Too busy doing what RATS do.


33 posted on 01/15/2006 8:13:36 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Libloather

Vitter has just doomed himself. I will never support or vote for him.

I don't think he realizes how mad we are.


35 posted on 01/15/2006 8:20:47 AM PST by Roux
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To: rs79bm
Hey, Leave Blanco in Amsterdam, and bring Melanie Schultz van Haegen back to New Orleans. She looks like she could put our leaking DYKES in order!

Jesting aside, the Netherlands engineering solution is the only viable one for New Orleans, but the Democratic Machine in Louisianna is too corrupt, most of the funding would be embezzled and contractual standards compromised.

Put a Pubbie governor in Office in Louisianna and don't use any Dim based engineering companies, I mean even hire the Dutch to do the work, they were after all good for Manhatten!

Almost two 3rds of the Netherlands is below sea level. The Dutch really do know what they are doing! But only a Pubbie admnistration could make it work in LA. That is why Blanco is so Crestfallen in her photos, she knows that the no-nonsense Dutch approach to land reclamation from the sea would never sell to Dims! Very low cumbayah factor there!

36 posted on 01/15/2006 8:23:53 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: dsc

I agree with you totally about sending these Politicians.

My first thoughts were to grab a few engineers from Holland and bring them here and I wrote the same on FR a long while back. Our Engineers have great admiration of their flood control measures which far exceed anything we have.

But our Army Corps of Engineers stink...too political.
They're always proposing temporary measures and we go through cr** over and over.

I'm a licensed land surveyor in NYS but my degree is Civil Engineering. Yes, I'm a woman...but I hardly take offense. These people are out of their league. I always laugh after dealing with these Politicians at local board meetings.

Our Army Corps of Engineers stinks and one of my greatest moments was saying to a COLONEL: "Thanks...MELVIN
...appreciate your help" and hung up the phone.


37 posted on 01/15/2006 8:29:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
The Low Countries in early January is not exactly what one would usually consider a vacation. The Netherlands in mid-winter is always cold, very damp and windy with approximately 5 hours of daylight and rarely any sun. The only good thing about a visit there any time of year is that the food is the best in Europe (excluding Italy of course). It's not cold enough, not enough snow and no slopes for a ski ice fishing or trip; one needs to cross into Norway or Sweden for that. I therefore doubt that the trip was a boondoggle.

That said, the Low Countries' flood control methodology and experiences are well documented and described in numerous writings.

38 posted on 01/15/2006 8:37:09 AM PST by middie
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To: robertpaulsen

Several


39 posted on 01/15/2006 8:42:33 AM PST by middie
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To: mewzilla
How much did this trip cost taxpayers?

Don't axe that. Landrieu might punch you out! (After she gets done with GW)

40 posted on 01/15/2006 8:46:36 AM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Libloather

Spending hundreds of billions on an American Delta Project? How about just not building houses on below sea level wetlands that are eroding into the Gulf of Mexico? Let people who live there assume the risk and cost themselves, otherwise the government is encouraging people to build in dangerous areas and setting up more people to die next time.


41 posted on 01/15/2006 9:07:19 AM PST by Phocion ("Protection" really means exploiting the consumer. - Milton Friedman)
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To: TCats

Just typical. These people have no shame.


43 posted on 01/15/2006 9:40:03 AM PST by kjo
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To: middie
Hmmmm. I didn't realize that hurricanes went that far north.

Anyways, which was the last Category 4+ to hit the Netherlands? And when?

44 posted on 01/15/2006 10:27:08 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: RayChuang88; Liz; Howlin
You know, that group could have saved the hassle of that trip if they had bothered to read the February 2006 issue of Popular Science.

I'm hoping a few congress critters from DC go to Russia to learn about their flat tax system...

45 posted on 01/15/2006 5:40:48 PM PST by Libloather (Have you noticed? Leftists really do hate people...)
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