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1 posted on 01/15/2006 9:33:29 AM PST by Bobibutu
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The soldier reiterated Friday's reports that any soldier who refused to comply with the order and was subsequently killed in action "could" be denied the $400,000 death benefit provided by their SGLI life insurance policy as well as face disciplinary action.

Give that dead man 30 days in the cooler!!

2 posted on 01/15/2006 9:35:31 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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There's something about this that doesn't sound right. Unless I see the orders, I'm not going to accept this as fact. It's all hearsay and second or third hand.

I will consider this a non-story until the orders are produced, in writing.


3 posted on 01/15/2006 9:37:35 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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I do not believe this story.

What officer would ever issue an order that states an insurance policy would not be paid? That is crazy.


8 posted on 01/15/2006 9:42:43 AM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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Mom should be calling anyone in the MSM who will listen.

This piece is from Hackworth's outfit and I don't know if it is for real, but if it is, it stinks.

9 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:45 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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If this new effort to limit alternative body armour is real, it would seem as if the main contractor had promise of exclusivity in the business agreement with the Army.

Tell you what Army leadership, if someone is going to fight for me over there, you give him first choice in body armour. If the guy is willing to put his money out to protect himself, then STFU and let him do his job.

Just damn! The guys are putting their lives on the line and the Army wants them to wear what they consider to be inferior armour.

That's just bull-s--t, if true.

If not true, I wish the Army would corner the idiot that started this rumour and kick their arse.


12 posted on 01/15/2006 9:49:42 AM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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This is so much like the government. Dear God sometimes I wish a rock from heaven would just come and squash them all. They are bugs disguised as human beings. Can't do anything without government approval because everyone knows how fn competent the government is. We so deserve to be destroyed and oppressed for our acceptance of such crap.


13 posted on 01/15/2006 9:49:42 AM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Sometimes believing what you are seeing is the greatest challenge.)
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http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/sov.php


15 posted on 01/15/2006 9:51:24 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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I would love to see the results of a law suit brought by a soldiers estate on such a ruling. Pinnacles body armor is superior.The Army has not kept up with development:

See: defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=490

17 posted on 01/15/2006 9:53:18 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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If true; and that is a big "if", I would like to see the hide ripped off the idiot who issued the order.


18 posted on 01/15/2006 9:53:19 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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I think this boils down to the same thing in civilian life when an employer threatens to hold a paycheck from a worker untill they comply or payroll deduct damages that an employee accidently makes. They can threaten it but they can not enforce it.


20 posted on 01/15/2006 9:55:40 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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If we want to make our troops safer, make them warriors again and not political troops.

IN other words - turn them loose and let them clean up the place. Iran too.

21 posted on 01/15/2006 9:55:41 AM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are people in Africa sober!.)
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This armor controversy smells like a Democrat National Committee talking point.

Sure, the study said Marines get hurt in places where armor does not cover. That means the armor stops a lot of the hits.

The trade off with armor is weight and mobility. Our Marines and other troops in a fire fight live because of mobility as well as armor. If they are too weighed down, they lose mobility. Also, a troop tired after humping heavy armor and gear is a troop not on top of his game when the fighting begins.

I believe the military and Pentagon are doing all humanly possible to help the troops on the ground and DNC attacks on the conduct of the war are suspect.


22 posted on 01/15/2006 9:57:19 AM PST by RicocheT
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"and was subsequently killed in action "could" be denied the $400,000 death benefit provided by their SGLI life insurance policy as well as face disciplinary action. "

LOL. just exactly what kind of "disciplinary action" are you going to give a soldier that is dead?


24 posted on 01/15/2006 9:59:26 AM PST by Annie5622 (Democrats DO have a plan! They apparently plan to stay stupid.)
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If this story were true, it would have been all over the Sunday morning talk shows. If it were just a good rumor it wouold have been all over the Sunday morning talk hows.

This is just a piss poor rumor.


26 posted on 01/15/2006 10:01:51 AM PST by kempo
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Sounds like a turf war, between manufactures. If the Dragon Skin is pr oven better, the other one looses their monopoly. I say that all manufactures should have their stuff available to the troops.
29 posted on 01/15/2006 10:02:37 AM PST by Exton1
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Let's see, who would plant a story like this, and of course not supply any names? (how convenient) The makers of this "dragon skin" maybe?
And who determined it is safer? The Military contracts body armor to be made to certain specs and supplied. Could this be a story by a disgruntled manufacturer who lost out on a bid? Solders shouldn't be wearing something that they may THINK is better, but actually isn't. Something stinks about this story. I guess we will find out when someone from the military with the authority to speak on it speaks. Don't hold your breath for media to print the story.
31 posted on 01/15/2006 10:03:43 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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This very much strikes me as an ad campaign for DragonSkin body armor.

Create controversy, make the claim that the body armor is so much superior that troops are willing to pay big bucks to get and use it, make the unsupported claim that generals are using it. In other words, a perfect advertisement.

Did you notice how much they stressed the "The Brand", while the brand is totally unnecessary to the story!
35 posted on 01/15/2006 10:07:20 AM PST by marktwain
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BTTT


37 posted on 01/15/2006 10:09:40 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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And an additional $50,000.00 fine for any dead soldier caught with a "lucky rabbit's foot" on his keychain. Puh-leeze!


40 posted on 01/15/2006 10:14:28 AM PST by Solamente
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I have not read all the responses to this post. In any case, if my privately purchased body armour impresses me more than the issued gear I would wear it regardless of what my command structure told me.

Let them suck an egg through the hole where I take a round to the lung, sucking in and out on the field for ten minutes before I die.
42 posted on 01/15/2006 10:15:56 AM PST by mmercier (die thou unheard, tears unshed)
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