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Jack Murtha's "Fake" Purple Hearts, An Open Letter
Strange Military.com ^ | Jan 12, 2006 | Kelly Anne & Don Bailey

Posted on 01/15/2006 4:00:20 PM PST by armydawg1

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To: Peach

LMAO!


401 posted on 01/18/2006 2:13:30 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema
You want vets to shoulder the burden because you're going to tackle Code Pink (to keep the Republican Party clean even though they're going to get the blame for it).

The veterans are the ones who are convinced he's lied about his medals. You don't honestly believe the RNC should be in the business of investigating the validity of military medals do you?

Republican opponents, with the weight of funding and investigative services at their fingertips have tried to prove that Murtha's medals are not honestly earned. They have been unsuccessful.

I've never seen such overblown emotionalism on an issue that we barely disagree on in my entire life. I want to handle Murtha on something current. You want to go back 40 years on something that no one has successfully been able to do. Go for it. Good luck.

402 posted on 01/18/2006 2:17:36 PM PST by Peach
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To: freema

You asked how you lied about my posts. See Post #394, italicized items -- the first and third. Glad you think being caught in a lie is a laughing matter.


403 posted on 01/18/2006 2:19:54 PM PST by Peach
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To: freema

Bananas.


404 posted on 01/18/2006 2:28:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

I may be a fruit, honey, but you're a liar.


405 posted on 01/18/2006 2:33:06 PM PST by Peach
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To: Calpernia

Totally Bananas!


406 posted on 01/18/2006 2:34:47 PM PST by usmcobra (Liberal=progressive...Conservative="Retro?" That's way cooler than being just a Neo-con!)
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To: Peach; Mr. Silverback; freema; Calpernia; usmcobra; MS.BEHAVIN; StarCMC; Radix; MEG33

"You think Murtha should be handled one way. I think he should be handled another way. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be handled and exposed. And I am not the one who started attacking anyone on this thread. So let's agree to disagree."
posted on 01/18/2006 1:41:42 PM PST



To: Mr. Silverback
It's happened to me too and it is not honorable conduct. I'm appalled. And disappointed.
579 posted on 01/18/2006 3:51:39 PM PST by Peach
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557630/posts?page=579#579



Peach : Question? What happened to you "truce?

And didn't you "remind" usmcobra about YOUR FR "rule" about pinging someone to a post when you mention them????



"Oh, so now you admit you DO know the rules. So you're a liar. Which I pretty much knew within your first few posts to me when you just started making stuff up and pretending I'd posted things I clearly hadn't posted.

You may be a former marine and made of stern stuff, but it's not honor."

Posted by Peach to usmcobra
On News/Activism ^ 01/18/2006 5:44:17 AM PST



407 posted on 01/18/2006 4:30:33 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The "Politically Correct RINO's" on Free Republic RINO's are never really political or correct.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

#1. Isn't the rule if you mention a freeper's name in a post, that freeper should be pinged? I have never mentioned you by name; if, however, by implication you should have been pinged, I apologize and will see that in the future, you are pinged. Although I admit, I have a hard time remember the numbers in your name.

#2. I proposed a truce. I did not see you accept it. I expected a response from you.

#3. If you have accepted it, that is the end. If you have not, it will continue. It's pretty simple.


408 posted on 01/18/2006 4:45:30 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

"#2. I proposed a truce. I did not see you accept it. I expected a response from you."

I did repond to your post



To: Peach
Tell your stepson I said
Thank You for your service to our country.

387 posted on 01/18/2006 1:46:58 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The "Politically Correct RINO's" on Free Republic are never really political or correct.)
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409 posted on 01/18/2006 4:49:23 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The "Politically Correct RINO's" on Free Republic RINO's are never really political or correct.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Oh, I didn't see that post. So sorry. Thank you and I will tell him.


410 posted on 01/18/2006 4:56:14 PM PST by Peach
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
For the ZOT I am about to receive, may I be truly thankful...

Now that that is out the way and before I put on my Troll hat for the first time on the Free Republic, if I am ZOTTED Tonk please give my best to Kathy in Alaska, Race Bannon, Pookie18, all the Marines here, and Dewey Johnson's daughter (Race knows her)

I have truly enjoyed my time here.

Your basic DU troll is a monument to adage that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Such rank amateurs deserve every Zot they get. A real Troll™ thrives upon exposing hypocrisy where ever it exist on the Internet. This is done a couple of different ways, by being a target of all that read their posts or by targeting directly the hypocrisy of all the posts around them.

As an example I will put on my troll hat and make myself the practice target by illustrating logic carried out to an illogical extreme to expose hypocrisy, like so.

"If it is disgraceful for the republican party to attack Muthra on his award records, it is even more disgraceful for Vets to attack those same records."

(Standard disclaimer:That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.

As any liberal will tell you if you can get them to shut up about Bush long enough to get a word in edgewise, Muthra supports the troops SO Vets must support Muthra.

Does anyone here need that small bit Sarcasm explained to them? )

"Vets cannot attack Col. Muthra's records because frankly they did not serve with him in Viet Nam."

(Standard disclaimer:That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.

We've heard this one before, its the old "you did not serve under me ergo you cannot judge my actions or words" defence.)

"If they do, then they risk bring shame upon all other members of the military by their actions."

(Standard disclaimer: That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.

Never mind that the actions and words of Muthra are shameful to the point of being treasonous, if you attack him or the basis upon which he claims credibility you are even more shameful than anything that he says or does.

Quite frankly that concept has always escaped any logic I've tried to assign to it.

And I have really tried to do so.)

"Congressman Muthra must be allowed to say whatever he wants because that is the American way."

(Standard disclaimer: That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.

Well maybe not the complete opposite, I do know that we have laws that prevent slander, and libel as well as laws that cover sedition and treasonous statements.

Basically as a public figure you can't say what ever you want, and there are lines that cannot be crossed, and laws that can be broken

and I also believe that The Democrats will continue to cross those lines of slander libel and treason until such time as someone in the government decides they have said and done enough.

I eagerly await that day,

but believe we should do more to bring it about.)

"With our young men and women engaged in Combat operations it would be a disgraceful crime for Veterans to attack Congressman Muthra."

(Standard disclaimer: That last sentence was written as a troll and is not how I feel, in fact it is the complete opposite of what I believe.

When I was a Young Marine one of my former units HMH-461 was tasked with being part of the attempted rescue of our hostages in Iran. Marines I knew and flew with died in the attempt, needless to say the finger pointing and political rhetoric that followed was enough to make me say " I wish someone would shut these @#$%^&'s up."

I suspect that Muthra isn't the only one our troops in Iraq want to shut up, so what if anything does that have to do with Vets, Republicans and Muthra.

Well the collective sigh of relief that would come from our troops when someone does shut up Muthra is worth a ZOT for me, which is why I'm writing this to urge Vets and republicans alike to do this for them, because the longer he continues the more they are going to be hurt.)

Funny, while I was driving home I thought I had a few more. It's a long drive and I have no radio so I think things out.

Let's review a few things:

Logically if it is wrong for republicans to say anything about Muthra's statements, record or awards, then it follows that it is equally wrong for Veterans to do the same.

Or anyone else for that matter.

This same logic does not apply to Democrats since they are immune to logic and devoid of it as well

They are creatures of pure emotions,

(and to think I just wrote that without a red star fleet ensign shirt on.)

These are the basic principles that allows Muthra to say whatever he wants and to do things like cozy up to Code Pink and perform unnatural acts.

The democrats know this and count on it and use it to protect themselves while making all their outrageous statements these days.

and those of you that want to do something about it need to decide what is worth more, your dignity, your pride, your honor, "the party" or the lives of our men and women serving in uniform.

For me at least it is a no brainer.

I'd crawl through a river of crap for my fellow Marines,

I did so in Boot Camp a long long time ago.

It can be washed off.

411 posted on 01/18/2006 7:26:28 PM PST by usmcobra (Liberal=progressive...Conservative="Retro?" That's way cooler than being just a Neo-con!)
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To: usmcobra
This same logic does not apply to Democrats since they are immune to logic and devoid of it as well

They are creatures of pure emotions,

LOL!!!

:)

412 posted on 01/18/2006 7:45:05 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: usmcobra

Great post!
Thank you for your service and sacrifice!
ms.B


413 posted on 01/18/2006 8:14:56 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: usmcobra

I'm here for the long haul Brother.

You see I'm one of those who was exactly where hanoi kerry was in 68-69

I was also on active duty when murtha was.

I took a vow to the Brothers and Sisters on the Wall
when hanoi kerry announced he was running for
President.

I VOW to the 58,000 + Brothers and Sisters on
The Viet Nam Wall who never came home
and to those who died at home from injuries and
from broken hearts.

"I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry once and for all.

I will not tire, I will not falter,
and I will not fail.

I solemnly vow to do all I can to restore your honor
until I give my last breath on earth."

I doubt Jim Robinson would ban you for speaking your mind.

He's a Viet Nam Vet and knows the score.

IF you do get banned or suspended it will be from
the same crowd that got me suspended Saturday
because I spoke my mind in FReep Mail.

My e-mail is tonkin817@gmail.com
IF you do get banned or suspended.

And Thank YOU for your service to our country.

SEMPER FI from an old tin can sailor


414 posted on 01/18/2006 8:16:58 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: usmcobra
Stick around, Marine.

When the going gets tough.....the tough go Pro.
415 posted on 01/18/2006 8:21:33 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize MS Media)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

What!!!!!!???
You got suspended Saturday??
Oh Tonk..
Why?
Ms.B


416 posted on 01/18/2006 8:28:08 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
For speaking in FReep Mail only.

The person did not like what I said and had a Mod suspend me.

My 1st ever.

It was supposed to be for 24 hours but someone else
over ruled the suspension and I was reinstated.

The person responsible does not want the GOP involved
in the murtha "controversy"
It was NOT anyone on this thread or the other thread.
The person who did this wouldn't even post in an open forum.
417 posted on 01/18/2006 8:37:42 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Well..
Isn't THAT cute?
Sheesh..
They should either have the courage of their convictions..
Or just shut up..
The fact that it was done behind the scenes, speaks volumnes.
Ms.B


418 posted on 01/18/2006 8:50:07 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Peach; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; LUV W; TASMANIANRED; mylife; StarCMC; Calpernia; bentfeather; ...

I read the whole thread, Peach..
Here's what I find detestable..
I hate to say this...
But this ISN'T ABOUT YOU..
and don't you go attacking me about the GOP thing either..
I am married to a Republican...
He is the Captain of The Patriot Riders In Maine..
We fight like hell for the Troops..
But we also know, that Troop support means we honor them ALL
That being said...
We LOVE our Troops..and so should you..
I am SICK of your whining...
My GOD woman.
How many Military Funerals have you BEEN to?
Well, I have been to plenty..
I tell you now, that this fight you insist on keeping..
Has me between tears and rage...
Enough!
Don't you think the Troops have enough to deal with, day to day?
Must they come here and see you defending YOURSELF, instead of THEM?
Okay, You're PO'D..
You have gotten your attention..
Now shut up about it!
Ms.B


419 posted on 01/18/2006 9:55:54 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

We were in Maine on rural medical tour. Biddeford. The most relaxing, beautiful place I've ever been.

We look forward to getting back there for vacation.


420 posted on 01/18/2006 10:03:28 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Hi Cal!
*HUG*
I have 8 1/2 acres here..
It's lovely...
Ms.B


421 posted on 01/18/2006 10:05:56 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

I'm jealous!

But you set a goal for me :)

I still dream of the state park we hiked through and stood out on the cliff watching the seals on the rocks.

::sighs::


422 posted on 01/18/2006 10:07:27 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

We are about 10 miles from the coast..
Still, it is lovely!
20 minutes and we're at the ocean..
Not Bad!
Weather can be brutal, though!
Ms.B


423 posted on 01/18/2006 10:11:16 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

>>>Weather can be brutal, though!

I do remember that. Weather can be brutal here too though. But Maine is prettier :)

Have a great night Ms. B!


424 posted on 01/18/2006 10:16:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

You too, Lady!
Goodnight!
MS.B


425 posted on 01/18/2006 10:19:59 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
"My 1st ever."

I remember my first suspension from Fr.com.

It lasted about 10 minutes. 5 January 2004!

It really upset me though, and so I understand that you'd be pissed about your first time.

I should have been suspended a bunch of times in truth, but never for the reasons that I actually was.

426 posted on 01/18/2006 10:25:47 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: Radix

*HUG*
Ms.B


427 posted on 01/18/2006 11:01:54 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: usmcobra

Thanks you.

Only have to zot certain lines....LOL


Murtha needs to have this medal stuff nailed to his forehead.

He is using the medals for credibility as he endangers Americans in harms way right now.


428 posted on 01/19/2006 1:14:17 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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To: TASMANIANRED; usmcobra

Duh red...

Thank you...nots thanks...sorry, blushing.


429 posted on 01/19/2006 1:18:54 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Democrats value the privacy of terrorists higher than the lives of Americans.)
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To: usmcobra; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub


"I'd crawl through a river of crap for my fellow Marines..." -usmcobra

"I took a vow..." - 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
___________________________________________________________
The night my son left home I killed an alqaeda who was dodging in and out of buildings trying to kill my marines, in my sleep. My only weapon was my high heels. It was quite gruesome. I lived. He didn't. My own moans woke me. I'd crawl through a river of crap for my Marines.

I took a vow to the Brothers and Sisters, the Sons and Daughters in service when hanoi kerry LOST the election.

I VOW to the Brothers and Sisters, who never came home and to those who died at home from injuries and from broken hearts that the same fate would not befall the Sons and Daughters.

I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry and his descendants once and for all.

I will not tire, I will not falter,
and I will not fail.
Peace and Freedom will Prevail.

I solemnly vow to do all I can to restore the brothers and sisters honor and keep the sons and daughters honor until I give my last breath on earth.

-freema


431 posted on 01/19/2006 3:07:03 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
But this ISN'T ABOUT YOU.

What makes you even say such a bizarre thing? This I have GOT to hear.

432 posted on 01/19/2006 5:42:13 AM PST by Peach
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To: armydawg1
This was posted on another thread.

Jack Murtha has plenty of problems.

Back in June'05 his ties to the lobbying firm of KSA Consulting (his brother Kit is a senior partner, along with Carmen V. Scialabba, who worked 27 years for Rep. Murtha) prompted criticism from Keith Ashdown of Taxpayers for Common Sense.

An article titled "Lobbyist's Brother Guilded House Bill" was printed in the LA Times. It stated that KSA received $20.8 million from the bill that Murtha pushed thru the House.

Funny how Rep. Murtha just happened to start bashing Bush and the war, about the same time. Maybe he wanted to divert attention away from his curious action with the lobbyist group........he can now say that any investigation is payback.

I say lets clean house.....get rid of all the crooks!

433 posted on 01/19/2006 5:49:47 AM PST by mickie
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To: mickie

bttt!

Thanks for adding that!


434 posted on 01/19/2006 7:07:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: mickie

Murtha gets in a bind and as an out, works for military defeat. What scum and vermin he must be.


435 posted on 01/19/2006 7:07:58 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: armydawg1
"Murtha gets in a bind and as an out, works for military defeat. What scum and vermin he must be".

That's how I see it.
And thats why the whole lobbyist thing with his ex-aide and brother has been dropped.

$20.8 million is alot of money......wonder if any of that reached the coffers of Jack?

436 posted on 01/19/2006 10:50:54 AM PST by mickie
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To: mickie

BTTT...


437 posted on 01/19/2006 4:43:05 PM PST by mickie
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To: mickie

Murtha's hads are as dirty as they can be......its not reasonable to believe he just suddenly turned on the military with no reason whatsoever. Unless you add in his dementia.


438 posted on 01/20/2006 4:19:57 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: armydawg1; Leisler

Dear Freerepublic,

When I heard from my friends at Code Pink what you had done, why I almost spit out my strawberry similac. This is what I am talking about…about our boys…um….It’s just like Vietnam. We didn’t have body armor there either, cause it was hot. It was so hot that..I told Bush.. President Bush that we’ve got to get the boys home now and let the Iraq people do what they should…um…Well, anyways. Ah, oh yes, Code Pink. Code Pink. Um. Well, hell’s bells, I’ve been to Iraq. Was there for half a day, so that makes me an expert, and when you take four corners, it’s just like what we did in ‘Nam, I mean Iraq. There’s no room. If there’s no room then all the room is not there, it’s it’s, um, it’s where you took it. And. That. Is. Not. Right.
So let me just finish up here and say that there needs to be an investigation, who’s behind this? When did Rove know, and when did he know it?

Thank you,
Congressperson, Jack “Did you know I was in Vietnam” Murtha.


222 posted on 01/20/2006 7:08:35 PM PST by Leisler ("For English, please press two.")

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1561943/posts?page=222#222


439 posted on 01/20/2006 8:09:37 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Did you notice in the video that when that Sergeant spoke up in the town hall meeting Murtha attended, to defend his soldiers and the war effort, Murtha sat stone silent. He didnt say a word of thank you, not a word of well done, not a word of how is your medical recovery, not welcome home, NOTHING!

And this is a guy who trumpets his visits to the military hospitals???????


440 posted on 01/21/2006 9:22:25 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: armydawg1
Yes, I did notice that "cut and run murtha" was silent.

Today he's probably apologizing to code pink for losing their
permit and contacting dim lawyers to get it back.
441 posted on 01/21/2006 12:49:13 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The "Politically Correct RINO's" on Free Republic RINO's are never really political or correct.)
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To: atomicpossum
He said she said, is not the case. The situation can be corroborated or not by witnesses.
The point is honesty and integrity. Does he possess such qualities? I do recall writing long ago about disagreeing with him but allowing the first amendment allowed him his thoughts on the Marine involvement in the “killing of innocent civilians”. This man not only speaks without thinking but, I believe, he speaks “politicianese” in that do what you must to get reelected, make money for yourself (ABSCAM), and look good to the folks at home.
442 posted on 04/03/2009 4:41:34 AM PDT by patstarbucks
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