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Tom Campbell, et al (DeLay Vanity)
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Posted on 01/15/2006 7:42:52 PM PST by maui_hawaii

Freepers---

Since you guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysis I thought I would ask your opinions about the whole DeLay situation.

For the record I don't live in DeLay's district and I haven't followed it that much at all. This post is for informational purposes only. If nothing else it will be a situational report for those interested in such a high profile race.

Several candidates have all thrown their hats into the ring...Three of DeLay's opponents — Campbell, Pat Baig and Mike Fjetland — are fellow Republicans. A fourth, Nick Lampson, is a conservative Democrat.

According to news reports:

While DeLay‘s campaign spokeswoman, Shannon Flaherty, has dismissed Fjetland and Baig with disparaging quips, she said DeLay welcomes Campbell to the race and to hearing his ideas.

From what I can gather DeLay takes Campbell seriously, and not to mention they are actually friends somewhat. Based on what I read on the net Campbell has been a long term GOP man etc etc. He's pretty conservative but he's not abrasive like DeLay is.

Having said that, another report says:

"Tom Campbell at least has Republican credentials," Fort Bend County GOP chairman Eric Thode said. "Having said that, it doesn‘t translate into one iota of support or money. He is 100 percent absolutely unknown in this county."

Here is a link to Campbell's web page. Under "platform" it gives a basis of what he's about, although its brief.

Since this is in the media all the time, here is what I got out of it thus far...

The media/left hate DeLay. At the same time his popularity isn't rampant in the really conservative district as many people believe.

With that said, the constituents will either A) vote for DeLay just to piss off the media/left or B) vote for another conservative candidate.

So, thus far Campbell seems to be viable.

Based on what little I have gathered, if DeLay goes down in the courts, who else is left?

Secondly, Campbell comes across as a 'humble conservative', not the brash and abrasive 'in your face' kind of politician that DeLay comes across as...

Any input is welcome on any and all of the candidates....


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1 posted on 01/15/2006 7:42:54 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Dog Gone

Ping


2 posted on 01/15/2006 7:43:29 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: All

DeLay Faces Viable Republican Challenger


HOUSTON -- U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay, who lost his leadership post because of his ties to a disgraced lobbyist and faces felony charges in his home state, now has another worry: an unprecedented four-way primary for the seat he's held comfortably for 22 years.

While two of DeLay's challengers in the March 7 primary aren't considered to have much credibility -- one is making his fourth attempt to unseat DeLay and the other has lived overseas much of her adult life -- lawyer Tom Campbell of Sugar Land holds an impressive Republican resume.

Campbell worked on the presidential campaigns of Bob Dole and the elder George Bush, whose administration appointed him general counsel to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. A former Harris County Republican Party official runs Campbell's campaign.

"I don't believe in the any-means-necessary brand of politics," Campbell said Wednesday at a reception held for him at a Houston law firm. "That leads to cutting corners to win, which leads to ethical lapses."

DeLay, who along with a multi-candidate primary faces a credible Democratic opponent for the first time in his congressional career, said Saturday he would not seek re-election to his House leadership post amid House Republicans' concern about a corruption scandal tied to lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

The lobbyist pleaded guilty last week to felony charges and is cooperating with investigators in a bribery probe focusing on several members of Congress and their aides.

In Texas, DeLay is charged with money laundering in connection with the transfer of $190,000 in corporate contributions through a Texas political action committee founded by DeLay to an arm of the National Republican Committee, which then contributed the similar amounts to GOP legislative candidates in Texas.

Republicans took control of the Texas Legislature after the 2002 elections, and pushed through a congressional redistricting plan favorable to the GOP that DeLay engineered.

DeLay was popular in his 22nd Congressional District, which covers the southwest suburbs of Houston, until his latest legal troubles. A recent CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll showed 53 percent of registered voters want someone other than DeLay to represent them.

Nevertheless, DeLay still enjoys institutional support in Fort Bend County, the Houston suburb that holds most of his district and includes his hometown of Sugar Land. The county Republican Party has adopted a resolution supporting DeLay and the chairman is in DeLay's camp.

"Tom Campbell at least has Republican credentials," Fort Bend County GOP chairman Eric Thode said. "Having said that, it doesn't translate into one iota of support or money. He is 100 percent absolutely unknown in this county."

Campbell's stump remarks gloss over specific issues, focusing instead on his promise to bring "honesty, civility and decency" back to Congress.

Campbell, 50, said after "having a hard time voting for Tom DeLay" in the 2004 election, he looked for someone to challenge DeLay in 2006, but found no GOP career politician willing to take him on. So Campbell, who's never held a political office, decided to run himself, figuring it was an act of Republican loyalty to challenge the party's troubled standard-bearer.

"If we don't clean house in March, we'll lose the House in November," Campbell said. "Sugar Land, Texas, is the epicenter of the national debate on how we conduct politics."

Campbell, a 12-year Sugar Land resident who has put his own money into the race, has less than $100,000 so far after announcing his candidacy in December, said campaign manager Mike Stanley, former general counsel to the Harris County GOP. DeLay had raised more than $1 million by the last reporting deadline in September.

DeLay also faces lawyer Mike Fjetland and retired teacher Pat Baig. The primary winner will face former U.S. Rep. Nick Lampson, a Beaumont Democrat who represented a district next to DeLay's for eight years until DeLay's redistricting plan put him in a new, less Democratic district. Lampson lost in 2004 to longtime Houston judge Ted Poe, a Republican.

While DeLay's campaign spokeswoman, Shannon Flaherty, has dismissed Fjetland and Baig with disparaging quips, she said DeLay welcomes Campbell to the race and to hearing his ideas.

"But he's going to have a tough time with local GOP support," Flaherty said. "He's got more than 30 years of catching up to do."


3 posted on 01/15/2006 7:48:32 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii; Gipper08
Since you guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysis I thought I would ask your opinions about the whole DeLay situation

You had me there. In fact, this might be my new signature if it fits

Two or three years ago a read a story on how Soros was about to specifically target Delay. A few months later I saw these anti Delay stories pop up. I believe the straight story is Delay is not guilty and will retain his seat. However, since this has come up and he seems to support Dubbya's drunken sailor spending, he was vulnerable by conservative republicans as he should be.

What say you?
5 posted on 01/15/2006 7:52:59 PM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: maui_hawaii; HoustonCurmudgeon; anymouse; Dog Gone

I can comment on one item: Eric Thode seems unpopular with the Republican establishment in his home county.

Ping to a few guys who know the inner workings!


6 posted on 01/15/2006 7:54:20 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: William Creel
Beats me.

Thats why I posted this thread to find out who is who.

7 posted on 01/15/2006 7:56:12 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Vision

not guilty and will win.


8 posted on 01/15/2006 7:56:53 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: Vision
A little sucking up never hurt anyone :o)

Its true though.

Some people on FR are on the level and know what they are talking about.

Some are full of crap, but we won't worry about those :o)

I think DeLay is vunerable more because of his movie star politics.

I haven't followed how DeLay voted or whatever...and on many things DeLay is great from what I understand....

IF he gets into too much [more] trouble I see the people there already getting sick of him for that alone.

It seems to me to be more a choice of 'conservative options'...no real threat from a democrat exists....

9 posted on 01/15/2006 8:02:22 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

You can quarrel about whether DeLay has been as conservative as he should have been, or even as he would have liked to be. But it's very unlikely he will be replaced, either in his seat or his leadership post, by someone more conservative and effective.

In any case, I really, really hate to see someone with DeLay's long, positive record shot down by a gang of crooked Democrats. For that reason alone, if I were in his district I would vote for him.

I strongly doubt that DeLay is guilty of the Texas charges, or that he is any guiltier of the DC lobbyist charges than about 90 other people, Republican and Democrat. So, why should he be the only one to get kicked out? Because Soros targeted him?


10 posted on 01/15/2006 8:04:48 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: maui_hawaii
Thats why I posted this thread to find out who is who.

Well, it seems obvious who Campbell is - - a sleazy opportunist who would dance on DeLay's political grave if it would advance his personal ambition.

11 posted on 01/15/2006 8:04:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Xenalyte
Yeah, thats the story thats being told through the media (low poll numbers etc).

Which kind of lends to the theory that people in that area are getting sick of the entrenchment.

Not that they are going to swing left all the sudden, but rather shake some stuff up with another candidate...of equal or more conservative credentials.

12 posted on 01/15/2006 8:06:16 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

Lampson is anything but a "conservative" RAT.

Lampson is a RAT.

Lampson is a LIBERAL.

Lampson will NOT represent the 22nd Congressional District.


13 posted on 01/15/2006 8:14:58 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Cicero
Thats what I say too in my A) B) situation in the original post.

No one wants to give in to the left. For that reason alone DeLay has a lot of support.

The left and the media hate DeLay...At the same time most people in his district I would say have equal disdain for the media and left.

So basically by attacking him they are strengthening him so to speak.

If though... and I say IF...something goes awry regarding the charges then what?

Not to mention I don't think its just about 'the charges'...He's been there for 20 something years and sometimes comes across as a movie star for the GOP.

Maybe, as the story goes people in the district are tiring of the entrenched old boy network rather than something specific (such as the charges)...

Here's a quote from one source I found on the net from Campbell...

"If we don't clean house in March, we'll lose the House in November," Campbell said. "Sugar Land, Texas, is the epicenter of the national debate on how we conduct politics."

14 posted on 01/15/2006 8:15:01 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Lancey Howard
And just how do you know that?

Sleazy opportunist?

Anyone running for office is a sleazy opportunist too including DeLay by that standard.

15 posted on 01/15/2006 8:17:15 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Howie66
Lampson is screwed no matter how you cut it.

The point of the thread is this...

The constituents there seem to tire of the movie star politics...although it does piss off the left rather bad...

However to some people pissing off the left isn't justification enough for a 20 plus year entrenchment that leads to an old boy network 'who runs things'...

"If we don't clean house in March, we'll lose the House in November," Campbell said. "Sugar Land, Texas, is the epicenter of the national debate on how we conduct politics."

Is pissing off the left justification enough to counter the bigger picture?

Also what IF DeLay DOES run into more trouble? Then what?

16 posted on 01/15/2006 8:22:24 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

Keep in mind that the RAT party as well as their mouthpiece Houston Comical have been gunning for DeLay for the better part of 20 years now.

The liberal RATs think that they can influence how we do things here in the 22nd District through their slime ball tactics with Ronnie Earle, the MSM, and Move-On maggots.

Time will tell, but the things that we true conservatives in the 22nd hate more than fire ants and cockroaches, are liberal RATS and the MSM.

I will be supporting Tom Delay in the primaries.


17 posted on 01/15/2006 8:22:59 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: maui_hawaii

Out of respect for the great state of Texas, I'll refrain from commenting on what I don't know. You could do a lot worse than Delay. His only crime is spending in my book and that's made up for other areas.


18 posted on 01/15/2006 8:27:19 PM PST by Vision (“We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the duty of intelligent men")
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To: Howie66
See post #14...

One of DeLay's strengths is that he is the poster boy to piss off the media. My feeling is there are a lot of people just like yourself...

If the charges against DeLay don't come to fruition DeLay is in.

If they DO come to be though, then what? What will that say about the district then?

Not saying I believe the charges by any means...no...

But in that situation is DeLay more important than the rest of the Conservative movement?

19 posted on 01/15/2006 8:33:11 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Hope you like the new signature
20 posted on 01/15/2006 8:33:39 PM PST by Vision ("You guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysis, and I ask your opinion")
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To: Vision
I don't know much either so we are both being humble here.

Of course there are A LOT worse people than DeLay. BY ALL MEANS thats soooo true.

21 posted on 01/15/2006 8:36:14 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Vision
COOL!

Maybe you can try "You guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysts"

22 posted on 01/15/2006 8:37:40 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

Delay is the man. His only crime is he's not a fiscal conservative.

In the next few months I'm going to take a trip to Hawaii to learn to surf. I'd like to talk to you about pulling this off at sometime.


23 posted on 01/15/2006 8:38:04 PM PST by Vision ("You guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysis, and I ask your opinion")
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To: Vision
I can tell you when/where to go for surfing. I can give you all the info you need on Hawaii including how to not spend an arm and a leg on your trip...

There are a lot of great places to see...

FR mail me and we can discuss the best times and places for all things Hawaii (including surfing).

24 posted on 01/15/2006 8:41:00 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii


25 posted on 01/15/2006 8:41:07 PM PST by Vision ("You guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysts")
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To: maui_hawaii

You can find a ton of good information by visiting the website of Lone Star.com.

This is a very conservative online answer to the Houston Comical as well as the MSM. Tons of info about Ronnie Earle and his cohorts and what they're attempting to do to Tom DeLay.

Check it out and then come back. We can discuss this further.


26 posted on 01/15/2006 8:41:42 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: maui_hawaii

You can bet I'll be in touch.


27 posted on 01/15/2006 8:41:42 PM PST by Vision ("You guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysts")
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To: Vision


28 posted on 01/15/2006 8:43:44 PM PST by Vision ("You guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysis")
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To: Vision
Delay is the man. His only crime is he's not a fiscal conservative.

I can't even comment on that, the fiscal aspect.

Word on the street though is the problem in the district is bigger than DeLay....

Of course everyone wants a conservative...

But is DeLay the ONLY one? Other than just pissing off the media, which I get great joy from as well....

From what I can tell the charges are galvanizing some in that community as something they already felt long ago...that you leave anyone in office for 20 years and and pretty soon their head inflates....so maybe its not DeLay personally, but the people surrounding DeLay as well that add to that perception....

29 posted on 01/15/2006 8:46:29 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Howie66
I'll try to read up on it in the next few days...

See post #29 though...

From what I can tell the charges are galvanizing some in that community as something they already felt long ago...that you leave anyone in office for 20 years and and pretty soon their head inflates....so maybe its not DeLay personally, but the people surrounding DeLay as well that add to that perception....

30 posted on 01/15/2006 8:48:11 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii; Clintonfatigued; William Creel; AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ; Kuksool; Clemenza
"Since you guys are literally the cream of the crop of political analysis"

Hey, I'd settle for being the cream of Michael Barone's... uh... political wisdom... yeah... that. Why doesn't that read right ?

31 posted on 01/15/2006 8:48:26 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: maui_hawaii
"If we don't clean house in March, we'll lose the House in November," Campbell said. "Sugar Land, Texas, is the epicenter of the national debate on how we conduct politics."

What else would you expect a Republican challenger to say.

As an ex-ad guy, I know that's the tack I'd recommend any challenger to DeLay to take. What else is there?

DeLay will beat the Texas rap. It's a put-up job by a flim-flam man. The Abramoff scandal, however, goes right inside DeLay's office.

If he's innocent of any wrongdoing, DeLay should fight. But, if he's guilty, I'd hope he would resign.

In any event, if he stands for re-election, he'll likely win.

32 posted on 01/15/2006 8:51:36 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
My thread here is regarding the couple of 'ifs' in your own post...

Of course they are competing...

I don't know the details of the Abramoff situation at all...but thats what I think is one more weight on the load...

See post #29....

DeLay has offered great service. I don't deny it at all.

At the same time though if it were me in that or any other district, if the politician or the people around him/her thinks they run the show then we have a problem.

20 years in office brings big heads, maybe not to one person here or there, but as a whole....

33 posted on 01/15/2006 8:58:32 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: okie01
If nothing comes of those charges I think DeLay will be in again...

Although I still think there is growing discontent with the way not only DeLay but others around him handle themselves....

34 posted on 01/15/2006 8:59:46 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Xenalyte
I can comment on one item: Eric Thode seems unpopular with the Republican establishment in his home county.

Do tell. Please expand....

35 posted on 01/15/2006 9:03:57 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

I live in Delay's district and thus far see no reason to jettison someone who has worked mightily to produce more Republican congressmen in Texas against the previous Dem gerrymander.

As the courts found when it was challenged, redistricting is a state political matter and we earned the right to do it our way by electing more Republicans.

This whole thing has been a political attack on one of the most effective Republican politicians in a century. Campbell may be a nice guy and a good Republican, but he is jumping on the anti-Delay bandwagon for his own personal reasons.

Of course, the Houston Chronicle is against Delay and always has been. They will pull out the stops to defeat him.


36 posted on 01/15/2006 9:12:16 PM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill
There are several people who view the whole thing as nothing more than a partisan attack. I see several posters saying that.

No, I am not demeaning anything DeLay did for the party. Not at all. But at the same time he (or his people) could have easily made some elementary and quite stupid mistakes.

As of now, no one knows for sure how it all goes...

Lets just give a hypothetical that something big in the Abramoff problem leads to DeLay's office? Its not out of the picture.

He's not out of the woods just yet and to write it all off as partisan attacks could be a big political mistake. Clinton said the Monica thing 'was a partisan attack' too... when in reality he broke the law.

In other words writing it all off so quickly as 'partisan attacks' might not be wise overall. It could even lead to the GOP losing the House if there is substance to it...

If thats the case would there still be a DeLay or no one approach?

Again, repeating myself... I think a lot of the discontent in the district comes from the old boy network. As with almost all old boy networks the participants get too big for their pants, and in this case many are tiring of it.

It might not be DeLay alone but as a group...

Campbell may be a nice guy and a good Republican, but he is jumping on the anti-Delay bandwagon for his own personal reasons.

I don't know if I personally would write it off as such so quickly...The guy put up a lot of his own money to run....

So far as I can tell he's a lifelong GOPer looking to clean up the GOP...

Not one who is looking to see his friend go to jail....

37 posted on 01/15/2006 9:26:40 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: wildbill
The Democrats know they won't win DeLay's district...

They aren't trying to merely pick up DeLay's seat... no way in hell thats happening...

They are using the poster boy of the GOP to try and win the whole House back.

Thats what I refer to as DeLay being a galvanizing force....

If there is some real ammo there for them to use the GOP might be shooting itself in the foot if it turns out that they tolerate true blue ethics problems from DeLay.

38 posted on 01/15/2006 9:33:29 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: wildbill
someone who has worked mightily to produce more Republican congressmen

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.

Thats my point.

He might have won a lot for us, but he can just as easily lose a lot for us too...

39 posted on 01/15/2006 9:35:11 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: harpu; Bigun

ping


40 posted on 01/15/2006 9:45:39 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
What happens if the Dems pull one of those three dayers....?

Three days before the election they drop a bombshell...kind of like the Bush DWI thing.

If the GOP doesn't at least question DeLay by then it will be too late.

At the very least the GOP should say, for the good of the party,"If DeLay or his people are found to be in violation of ethics we will withdraw support for him..."

Its called covering your @ss, as a party.

41 posted on 01/15/2006 10:01:30 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
The constituents there seem to tire of the movie star politics...

That is the first time I have heard that term. Where did you get it? Is that a phrase you and Campbell are trying to get started. Tom Delay has never sought the camera. If anything he has been too behind the scenes with not enough time in front of the camera. The media seek him out to try to further this conspiracy for Soros.

However to some people pissing off the left isn't justification enough for a 20 plus year entrenchment that leads to an old boy network 'who runs things'...

More Campbell talking points? Nobody is angry he has been there that long, that is what gives him his clout. He is not at all as you are presenting him. The left hates him because he is effective in getting the conservative agenda through and because he manged to get the apportionment of Republicans/Democrats correct through redistricting. Prior to that the Democrats, through their own gerrymandering, had held onto a disproportionate number of seats to their true political strength in Texas.

Also what IF DeLay DOES run into more trouble? Then what?

He will because all this is part of the lefts' strategy just as is their strategy for defeating conservative Supreme Court nominees. Do you want to appease them and just throw in the towel.

By now you have probably determined that I greatly suspect your sincerity. Sound like a "seminar poster" to me.

42 posted on 01/15/2006 10:58:56 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Vision
Delay is the man. His only crime is he's not a fiscal conservative.

This whole idea comes from what I consider a tongue in cheek comment by DeLay. When the President and the leadership asked all Congressmen to try to find some budget cuts to make to reduce spending, DeLay contacted all his colleagues and asked them if there were any places they could cut. He then announced that the budget must be as tight as it can be with no savings to be had because no one got back to him on that. He was making the point that all were guilty and not willing to give. That wasn't an endorsement of spending on his part, just reporting what the situation was.

43 posted on 01/15/2006 11:09:47 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Seminar poster...yeah. Sure.

I am not in DeLay's district so I can't vote for or against either way. I am not affiliated with anyone's campaign for anything. I am asking questions. Simple as that.

I did run into someone who does have 'connections' but that was the first and only thing I ever heard of it. I never heard of Tom Campbell until earlier today during a conversation with a friend I haven't seen for a while. Because I don't follow it, I thought it curious to read up on it.

As for the quote of 'movie star politics' I wrote it here on FR at whatever time it was time stamped. I wrote it based on every time I turn on the tv the word Republican and Tom DeLay are 2/3 of the time mentioned in the same breath.

Sought out or not, he's become the poster child of Republicans. Looking from a distance thats what I see.

I am not giving talking points for anyone. Period. At the same time I am A)not ready to proclaim anyone 100% innocent or guilty. B)Based on my readings on this DeLay, however great of guy I think he's been, doesn't dominate his district like some people think. My goal in starting this thread is to find out why and to learn about the respective campaigns.

There is no endorsements from me going on here, only acknowlegement that if DeLay or his people did things illegally, (as a group) we need to know whats going on.

As for throwing in the towel, its way early for that. However because of the position that he is in, he certainly doesn't get a free pass.

Other than that if you know something I don't, please feel free to express it.

If Tom DeLay goes to jail, who are you voting for? He might not go to jail. He probably will never go to jail. But what do you do if something winds up blowing up?

44 posted on 01/15/2006 11:28:15 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

The wimpy RNC has already pulled away.


45 posted on 01/15/2006 11:40:34 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Tom Delay has never sought the camera. If anything he has been too behind the scenes with not enough time in front of the camera. The media seek him out to try to further this conspiracy for Soros.

If anything the impression is out there. If DeLay should be in front of the camera why isn't he? I am sure he can get on any talk show he so chose. Free air time, a lot of it...is available....

Now that you mention it, why isn't he on TV more?

Isn't he making a stupid political mistake by not countering all the 'news' about himself?

46 posted on 01/15/2006 11:40:53 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Fill me in.

I am getting a crash course in the DeLay thing, which is what I requested to start with :o)

47 posted on 01/15/2006 11:42:18 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Point being, if he's not guilty, by your own admission he's not out there saying it enough...

I say if he is, he should take one for the team and not screw it up for everyone else.

In the mean time, however and whatever great things he's done, the support for him in his district (according to the news and other various sources) is waning.

With 6 weeks or whatever left until the primary, which is the proving ground for the whole election in that district...we're not seeing the other side of the coin. Its taking its toll.

48 posted on 01/15/2006 11:52:35 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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By now you have probably determined that I greatly suspect your sincerity. Sound like a "seminar poster" to me.

My first thought exactly.

49 posted on 01/16/2006 12:11:58 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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You should consider that you are getting your information from the MSM, and you believe exactly what they want you to believe, that DeLay is losing support. They want the voters in his district to think the same.

As far as what he "should" be doing, I leave that up to him. Part of the plot was to keep him too busy to do his job or to campaign.

You are either in on it or you fell for it. For practical purposes, it is a distiction without a difference.


50 posted on 01/16/2006 12:29:17 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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