Posted on 01/16/2006 10:44:33 AM PST by Dog Gone
A DETECTIVE is facing disciplinary action by his force for referring to a career criminal as pondlife in a private conversation with another officer.
The detective constable, who faces possible dismissal from his job, has been told that the criminal might have been offended had he heard the remark, although he was not present at the time.
All four have been taken off frontline duties that might bring them into contact with members of the public while they await formal decisions as to their futures.
The covert taping was being carried out by Nottinghamshire police to investigate alleged corruption by another member of staff. The officers facing disciplinary action are not suspected of any criminal activity and the fact that their comments were recorded was a coincidence.
However, the forces professional standards department decided last year to place all four officers on so-called regulation nine notices signalling disciplinary action even though no complaints had been received from other staff or members of the public.
After the corruption inquiry has been concluded, the deputy chief constable, Howard Roberts, will review the allegations and decide whether to carry out a full inquiry which could result in the officers dismissal.
Critics have called the affair ludicrous.
Mick Taylor, chairman of the Nottinghamshire branch of the Police Federation, which represents rank-and-file officers, said: There has been an accusation that some words have been said that may have caused offence to a career criminal if he had been present, even though he wasnt.
This is a man of the criminal fraternity who has a number of convictions. So it does seem ludicrous that we have to go to these levels, but that is the way life is now.
This was a private conversation between colleagues and surely people have got a right to that? A personal view is that if no members of the public or work colleagues have made complaints, then I question the need for disciplinary action.
The officer accused of corruption offences, PC Charles Fletcher, who faces a charge of conspiring to commit misconduct in a public office and two counts of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, is due to be tried later this year.
Taylor said: Now the officers on the disciplinary notices will have to wait until after the corruption inquiry is finished and all trials conducted before the video-taped evidence can be examined and that may take a long time.
Some of these officers have got 20 or more years of service and commendations to their name and they dont deserve to have this hanging over them for so long.
A source close to the four officers said: It is difficult enough for officers to carry out their frontline duties without having to battle political correctness as well.
A Nottinghamshire police spokesman said: We can confirm that four members of staff have been served with regulation nine notices, which informs (them) they are being investigated on internal professional misconduct matters.
Pondlife? I assume that is the more genteel Brit version of our "pond scum".
When men cease becoming men a society crumbles...allah GB.
Or a Froggy...
Well, if we put the cops in jail and let the criminals free (because they will feel bad) - it will give the cops left on the force something to do.
SICK
Across the pond, we prefer "pond scum".
A "politically correct" society can not survive....
That is precisely the motive of the "PC" a$$holes....
Semper Fi
When the government is more concerned about hurting criminals' feelings than in catching and convicting them, law-abiding citizens are on their own. Powerless, of course, since very few of them are allowed to own guns, and if they did own one and used it to deter a crime, they'd be the ones to be arrested.
Det. Andy Sipawitz is not amused.
Ivan, were you aware you could be fired for talking bad about a criminal behind his back?
Crunchy Frog:
Milton: We use only the finest baby frogs, dew picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in finest quality spring water, lightly killed, and then sealed in a succulent Swiss quintuple smooth treble cream milk chocolate envelope and lovingly frosted with glucose.
Praline: That's as maybe, it's still a frog.
Milton: What else?
Praline: Well don't you even take the bones out?
Milton: If we took the bones out it wouldn't be crunchy would it?
i hear calling a criminal 'poopy head' is a hanging offense there....
I used to admire the British. Now, every time I read anything about them they sink lower and lower in my eyes. If this kind of stupidity is allowed, no one who is worthy of becoming a police officer will join the force. And the people who are creating this mess will complain bitterly when they are faced with the results of their actions.
It is. A little inane factoid for you....the first time I ever heard this term was in one of the Need for Speed games. In it, you are racing and running from the police in different locales around the world. When you were in England, as you were running the police would be on their PA's yelling at you to pull over, and calling you various names, and 'pondlife' was one of them. Had never heard the term before or after until now.
Hey. What about the pond scum? It resents being compared to some of the criminals out there.
the guy that made the remark will prolly be fired, and those who LAUGHED at it will be suspended... must have a LOUSY UNION!!! oh, yeah... now that it's in the papers, be prepared for the pondscum to BE OFFENDED and SUE!!!
and Atlas PUKED.
This calls for a remake of A Clockwork Orange where the offending Policeman is sentenced to watch Brokeback Mountain for hours on end.
In the words of Anna Russell, needed nowadays rather too often, Im not making this up, you know.
my eyes... MY EYES...!!!
Dave Barry pulled a "Milton Berle?"
This is serious? A criminal might have been offended if he'd actually been present to hear the guy?
I'm speechless. Truly, there are no words ...
This is the Nottinghamshire police - they're sort of like our equivalent of the San Francisco Police. If you go back, you'll find they're the most daft constabulary in the country.
Regards, Ivan
Where's Robin Hood? The sheriff of Nottingham has gone mad.
Nottingham, not surprisingly, has also the least effective police force in the country.
Robin Hood and his Merry Men would be welcome as vigilantes.
Regards, Ivan
That's moderately encouraging. I was afraid this mentality had spread throughout the entire country.
Trust me, look up "Nottinghamshire" and police, and you'll find all sorts of this kind of nonsense.
I'm not proud of it, but I don't live in that part of the country.
Regards, Ivan
Oh my God.......these POS Cops should be shot for this!!
I retired at the rank of Detective Sergeant after nearly 26 years of abuse...............thank God it's over!
Now it's just tax free money and free medical..... every month for the rest of my life. Honest, it was difficult to retire at the old age of 53. Every day, just another Saturday..........what's a guy to do?? LOL
While I have loving and proud memories of the difference I was privileged to make in my community ( helping those with tears, pain, confusion and terror.... it can keep ones heart warm)..... I would NEVER recommend this profession to any sane person. Perhaps I could have retired at 43 had I chosen a different way of life.
To hell with the pond scum.............
Pondlife?
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