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Pat Buchanan: Might the Arabs Have a Point?
The American Conservative ^ | 16 January 2006 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 01/16/2006 1:26:24 PM PST by Hal1950

Karen Hughes, President Bush’s newest undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and the caretaker of America’s image abroad, has her work cut out for her.

A Zogby survey of 3,900 Arabs in Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates has uncovered massive distrust of U.S. motives in the Middle East.

Unkindest cut of all, Arabs would prefer that President Chirac and France lead the world rather than us, and, rather than have us as the world’s lone superpower, they would prefer the Chinese.

While Arabs are not as rabidly anti-American as in the aftermath of the Iraq invasion, still, by 77 percent to 6 percent, they believe the Iraqi people are worse off today, and by four-to-one, Arabs say the U.S. invasion has increased, not decreased, terrorism.

Designed by Arab scholar Shibley Telhami of the Brookings Institution, the survey reveals pervasive cynicism about the stated goals of George W. Bush. When asked, “When you consider American objectives in the Middle East, what factors do you think are important to the United States?” the Arab answers came as follows:

Fully 76 percent said the Americans are there for the oil, 68 percent said to protect Israel, 63 percent to dominate the region, and 59 percent to weaken the Muslim world. Only 6 percent said we were there to protect human rights and another 6 percent said to promote democracy. Asked directly if they believe President Bush when he says democracy is our goal, two of every three Arabs, 78 percent in Egypt, said that, no, they do not believe Bush.

Asked to name the two nations that present the greatest threat to regional peace, 70 percent named Israel, 63 percent the United States, and 11 percent Britain. Only 6 percent named our bête noire Iran.

Asked to name the foreign leader they disliked most, Sharon swept top honors with 45 percent. Bush took the silver with 30 percent. No one else was close. Tony Blair came in a weak third. Only 3 percent of the Arabs detest him most.

While only 6 percent agreed with al-Qaeda’s aim to establish an Islamic state and only 7 percent approve of its methods, 20 percent admire the way al-Qaeda “stood up for Muslim causes” and 36 percent admire how it “confronts the U.S.”

Favorite news source? Sixty-five percent named Al-Jazeera either as their favorite or second favorite. What Fox News is to red-state America, Al-Jazeera is to the Arab street.

America’s standing in the Arab world could hardly be worse. And the questions the survey raises are these: Do we care? And, if we do, do not the Arabs have a point? Has not U.S. behavior in the Middle East lent credence to the view that our principal interests are Israel and oil, and, under Bush II, that we launched an invasion to dominate the region?

After all, before liberating Kuwait, Secretary of State Baker said the coming war was about “o-i-l.” And while we sent half a million troops to rescue that nation of 1.5 million, we sent none to Rwanda, where perhaps that many people were massacred.

If Kuwait did not sit on an underground sea of oil, would we have gone in? Is our military presence in the Mideast unrelated to its control of two-thirds of the world’s oil reserves?

If human rights is our goal, why have we not gone into Darfur, the real hellhole of human rights? If democracy is what we are fighting for, why did we not invade Cuba, a dictatorship, 90 miles away, far more hostile to America than Saddam’s Iraq, and where human rights have been abused for half a century? Saddam never hosted nuclear missiles targeted at U.S. cities.

And is Israel not our fair-haired boy? Though Sharon & Co. have stomped on as many UN resolutions as Saddam Hussein ever did, they have pocketed $100 billion in U.S. aid and are now asking for a $2 billion bonus this year, Katrina notwithstanding. Anyone doubt they will get it?

Though per capita income in Israel is probably 20 times that of the Palestinians, Israel gets the lion’s share of economic aid. And though they have flipped off half a dozen presidents to plant half a million settlers in Arab East Jerusalem and the West Bank, have we ever imposed a single sanction on Israel? Has Bush ever raised his voice to Ariel Sharon? And when you listen to the talking heads and read the columns of the neocon press, is it unfair to conclude that, yes, they would like to dump over every regime that defies Bush or Sharon?

Empathy, a capacity for participating in another’s feelings or ideas, is indispensable to diplomacy. Carried too far, as it was by the Brits in the 1930s, it can lead to appeasement. But an absence of empathy can leave statesmen oblivious as to why their nation is hated, and with equally fateful consequences.

January 16, 2006 Issue


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiisraeli; arabworld; bitterpaleos; blameamerica; blameisrael; blamethejews; buchanan; buchananisatard; dhimminazi; israel; jewsdrankmyblood; jewsrippedmyflesh; nazipat; patbuchanan; zotbuchananforever
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1 posted on 01/16/2006 1:26:25 PM PST by Hal1950
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To: Hal1950


Sophistry.


2 posted on 01/16/2006 1:28:13 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: Hal1950

Pat Buchanan compares Fox News to Al Jizz.

nice


3 posted on 01/16/2006 1:28:33 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Hal1950

Pat's ever the ray of sunshine, isn't he?


4 posted on 01/16/2006 1:28:40 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Hal1950

Pat is being so disingenuous it defies comment.


5 posted on 01/16/2006 1:29:15 PM PST by jjm2111 (---This space intentionally left blank----)
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To: Hal1950

Pat Buchanan seems to be all for "America First, Last, and Always," unless that principle annoys the Islamists.


6 posted on 01/16/2006 1:29:19 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Hal1950
America’s standing in the Arab world could hardly be worse.

I can think of one way it would be worse. IF Buchanan had actually won an election at some point, it sure as hell would be......
7 posted on 01/16/2006 1:29:34 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Hal1950

Pat has turned into even more of a nut. I was a brigade member until I read some of his books and than quit.


8 posted on 01/16/2006 1:29:55 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: SJackson

Check this column out.....


9 posted on 01/16/2006 1:30:01 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Hal1950

Pat Buchanan is nothing more than a rather large POS BUMP!


10 posted on 01/16/2006 1:30:44 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Hal1950

I often wonder if Pat has a point.


11 posted on 01/16/2006 1:30:49 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Hal1950

The Arabs have a point. And they use it to cut infidel throats.


12 posted on 01/16/2006 1:30:55 PM PST by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: Hal1950

I started disagreeing with Buchanan years ago over his economic policies. But now I detest him for his anti-America and anti-semitic views. Go live somewhere else if it's so wrong here, Pat! We'll manage fine without you.


13 posted on 01/16/2006 1:31:04 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: Hal1950

"Fully 76 percent said the Americans are there for the oil, 68 percent said to protect Israel, 63 percent to dominate the region, and 59 percent to weaken the Muslim world. Only 6 percent said we were there to protect human rights and another 6 percent said to promote democracy."

Actually, we had BETTER be there for reasons like Oil, regional domination etc.


14 posted on 01/16/2006 1:31:06 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Hal1950

Pat needs a Zottema.


15 posted on 01/16/2006 1:31:21 PM PST by Darksheare (Tagline subverted for nefarious plans of nefariousness.)
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To: Hal1950

I have a cute little graphic of Fat Pukecannon but I think I'd get banned if I posted it.


16 posted on 01/16/2006 1:32:13 PM PST by Alouette (The Anti-Borg - You Will NOT be Assimilated!)
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To: Hal1950

But an absence of empathy can leave statesmen oblivious as to why their nation is hated, and with equally fateful consequences.
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as was the case before 9/11

but if that's so then the US is on the correct path.

Hmm's looks like Pat's arguement turned around and bit him.

Its a shame the bush admin can't be as forceful and shrewd about the US southern border--where the consequences of bad leadership will be far more profound for the USA than events in the mid east.


17 posted on 01/16/2006 1:32:28 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: Hal1950
Pat is picking the facts that make him feel good, and omitting the ones that belie his views.
18 posted on 01/16/2006 1:33:17 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: finnman69

Quotes polls and Zogby. I don't think he has much of a following anymore.


19 posted on 01/16/2006 1:33:23 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: everyone

Who cares, Pat?

Why do you waste your time writing this blather?


20 posted on 01/16/2006 1:33:52 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Hal1950

What is so wrong about going to war for a resource our nation requires?


21 posted on 01/16/2006 1:34:38 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Hal1950

All the posters on this thread nailed Pat. I'd only add that he reminds me of John 'effin Kerry in this sense - Pat brings up that he worked for Nixon with about the same frequency that Kerry brings up the fact that he served in Vietnam. And my reaction is approximately the same in both cases.


22 posted on 01/16/2006 1:34:53 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Hal1950

Buchanan forgot to take his meds again.

Note to Pat......I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE OF THOSE COUNTRIES TO LIKE ME!


23 posted on 01/16/2006 1:34:56 PM PST by rrrod
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To: atomicpossum

virtually all media and commentators do, unfortunately,


24 posted on 01/16/2006 1:35:10 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Alouette

You may want to ping your list for this one....

Buchanan is out of his mind in relation to Israel....


25 posted on 01/16/2006 1:35:35 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: MikeinIraq

So let me get this straight. What we need to do is impose sanctions on Israel, and let France and China run the world.

Oh, and we should praise polls designed by the liberal Brookings Institute conducted by our good friend, Zogby.

Thanks for weighing in, Pat.


26 posted on 01/16/2006 1:35:42 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Hal1950

We know why our nation is hated. It is because we dared address the problem in Iraq directly. People who believe the Iraqi's are worse off today are just not accepting reality. They are buying a media fed line which is the source of 90% of Anti-American hate in the world. How else do you explain liberation being described as invasion and democracy as dangerous?
We have a choice, play the diplomacy game the old way and be tarred and feathered for cavorting with the enemy and making deals with the devil or else we do what needs to be done to produce long standing results rather than relying on the suppression of human interests for temporary diplomatic gains. I think it is better to be tarred and feathered and know you are doing what is right than the alternative of fully deserving every bit of it.


27 posted on 01/16/2006 1:36:09 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Sometimes believing what you are seeing is the greatest challenge.)
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To: Hal1950
Typical anti-Jewish rant from Buchanan.

70% of Arabs see Israel as the biggest threat to peace, despite the fact that Arab armies attempted to invade Israel SIX TIMES and despite the fact that Muslim suicide bombers continue to kill innnocents in Israel. Yep, they're sure a threat to peace all right.

28 posted on 01/16/2006 1:36:09 PM PST by LS
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To: WoofDog123


Seems to me that's of national interest and security...and what does a nation have a military for if not to provide national security and protect national interests.

This article is pure spin. I am not surprised by the polls...the worlds media hates us, because stupid, factless, bash America rants make people there feel better, and allows foreign governments to hid their corruption, and of course sells papers. It's pretty ridiculous to assume polls in the region would have anything kind to say about the US.

If we announced tomorrow that we were withdrawing our troops from every post around the world and letting the Chinese take over...with the comment that "The Chinese will ensure you have human rights, freedom, and such." I wonder what the worlds reaction would be.


29 posted on 01/16/2006 1:37:14 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: American Quilter

What do you suppose drove him to hate Jews so much? When did he go off the deep end. Was he molested as a child by a Rabbi?


30 posted on 01/16/2006 1:37:24 PM PST by LS
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To: Dog Gone

LOL

that's about the way I read it too....


31 posted on 01/16/2006 1:37:28 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Hal1950
What Fox News is to red-state America, Al-Jazeera is to the Arab street.

You are what you eat.

32 posted on 01/16/2006 1:37:53 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Hal1950

I have a love hate relationship with Pat.

I love to hate him.

Seriously, the man is brilliant, but he is also crazy. I really think that.


33 posted on 01/16/2006 1:38:27 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: All

“Jews turned me into a newt.”


34 posted on 01/16/2006 1:38:32 PM PST by dighton
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To: Hal1950

Ahhh yes, Patrick Buchanan. Mr. "Lets build a super wall around America that extends to outerspace and live behind it."" Mr. "If everyone says up, I will say down just to be different." Mr. "Hey, pay attention to me I'm being nuts!!!" Mr. "unless you agree with me 100% you should be impeached." And on and on and on.


35 posted on 01/16/2006 1:38:39 PM PST by FlipWilson
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To: Cyber Liberty
>Pat Buchanan: Might the Arabs Have a Point?
>>Pat's ever the ray of sunshine, isn't he?

If we were living
in 1933, Pat
would be "wondering"

if maybe, somehow,
the Jews really were the root
of Germany's grief . . .

36 posted on 01/16/2006 1:40:04 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Hal1950

I wonder how we polled in Japan or Germany c. 1943?

Gosh Pat, did Hitler and Tojo have a point?


37 posted on 01/16/2006 1:40:30 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: dighton

"Jews turned me into a newt."

Could be worse. Gingrich's parents turned him into a Newt, and he didn't get better!


38 posted on 01/16/2006 1:40:45 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: WoofDog123

Actually, if it weren't for the presence of oil, it would make very little difference who dominated the region. Without oil, the Middle East would have an economy similar to that of most of Africa.

They are the original parasitic region of the world. We hand immense sums of money over to them, much of which they use to plot against us.

WE found the oil. WE developed the resource. WE get it to its markets. WE allow them to control it, in allegiance to our own principles, not theirs.

Does anyone seriously think a militarily irresistible Muslim or Arab country would pay infidels gigantic sums for access to a resource necessary to its own economy?

As Clive famously said, I am astonished by our moderation. Yet we get no credit for it whatsoever.


39 posted on 01/16/2006 1:40:45 PM PST by Restorer
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To: LS
Islamists are at war with Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, and Jews.

Israel is not the problem, despite what arabs claim. Radical Islam is a supremacist political system and no more a "religion" than Nazism was and IS (and yes there are Nazis who revere Adoplh Hitler, doesn't mean we should "respect" their religious views).
40 posted on 01/16/2006 1:41:41 PM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: Hal1950
Do insane 7th Century cavemen have a point? No.

It's official: Pat is now completely off his rocker.

41 posted on 01/16/2006 1:41:55 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: theFIRMbss

Pat lost an uncle at the death camps. He fell out of the tower.


42 posted on 01/16/2006 1:42:42 PM PST by elhombrelibre (MSM: de facto allies of America's enemies.)
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To: Hal1950

Pat's swastika is showing again.


43 posted on 01/16/2006 1:43:06 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: LS
What do you suppose drove him to hate Jews so much?

Who knows where psychosis starts? Maybe a Jewish competitor beat him out for a job. Maybe a Jewish student outperformed him in school. Maybe he screwed up on the job and got fired by a Jewish boss. One thing you can be sure of--his hatred of Jews stems from a deep sense of insecurity about himself.

44 posted on 01/16/2006 1:43:26 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: Hal1950

Pat just heard that Ayman al-Zawahri may be dead, and this is his essay part for the application to be Al-Qaeda's No.2.


45 posted on 01/16/2006 1:44:05 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Hal1950
A Zogby survey of 3,900 Arabs in Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Jordan, and the United Arab Emirates has uncovered massive distrust of U.S. motives in the Middle East.

Sheesh, Buchanan! It took a Zogby poll to tell you Arabs mistrust the United States? This has been a fact of life in the Middle East for at least the last 55-60 years. Who knows -- maybe it goes back to the days of the Barbary pirates.

Why don't you tell the truth for a change, Buchanan. What sticks in your craw is the fact that the U.S. and Israel are close allies. You want us to sell Israel out to the Arabs, plain and simple.

As for this little bit of ugliness -- "Has Bush ever raised his voice to Ariel Sharon?" -- it might have played as legit only a few weeks ago. However, since the Israeli PM's massive stroke, it is just a pointless, consciously mean-spirited jab at a friendship between two men that goes back before either became leader of their respective nations.

You, Pat Buchanan, are nothing more than a mean, ugly throwback to the 1930's and Father Coughlin.

46 posted on 01/16/2006 1:44:08 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Cacique; rmlew

Paddy Ping!


47 posted on 01/16/2006 1:44:12 PM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: Hal1950

It's the Joooooooos!

Pats gone of his meds again.


48 posted on 01/16/2006 1:44:29 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: Alouette

Got URL?


49 posted on 01/16/2006 1:44:34 PM PST by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: Hal1950
Crazy article. The writer wants us to believe that Arabs would prefer to be anihilated by the Han Chinese (who got their start during the period of Warring States by doing just that) than deal with us.

Apparantly he doesn't know anything about history, and doesn't realize we can all see right through him.

50 posted on 01/16/2006 1:46:24 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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