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ACLU Sues to Stop Illegal Spying on Americans, Saying President is Not Above the Law
PRN News ^ | January 17, 12:01 am ET | Unknown

Posted on 01/16/2006 9:54:03 PM PST by Jay777

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To: Wil H
Anything they accuse Bush or Nixon of even attempting Clinton did and abused often, and most of the MSM , the so called protectors of freedom, covered up for him or actively joined him in attacking the whistelblowers. For all the claims of a dark night of fascism under McCarthy , America actually lived it under Clinton. Truly one of America's darkest times.
41 posted on 01/16/2006 11:17:49 PM PST by Nateman (Stop the spin! Flush Clinton again!)
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To: kingu

Yep, done deal pretty much - the worst could happen is NSA gets reminded the evidence won't be admissible. But who needs it admissible ? Pick up the bastards for an immigration violation. Send his ass out to where they came from so that Jordanian/Egyptian/Russian/Polish secret services can have a little chit chat, and we're done.

There's a reason there hasn't been any attacks here since 9/11. Now I'm getting worried again, since the bastards started buying disposable phones. Thanks to liberals.


42 posted on 01/16/2006 11:44:55 PM PST by farlander
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To: right-wingin_It

Randy "Duke" Cunningham called into a talk show last year, probably some fill-in for Rush, and said he would go after awarding attorney fees in certain civil rights violation cases (Section 1983 cases). That seems to be the life blood of ACLU and the club they threaten little towns with when they want Crosses on public property dismantled. The Duke left some unfinished business when he departed Congress recently. Maybe that's why he was exposed.


43 posted on 01/17/2006 2:44:20 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Jay777

ACLU, go back to Moscow where you came from. You'll need warmer clothes.


44 posted on 01/17/2006 4:13:53 AM PST by RoadTest (- - Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit. - Isaiah 27:6b)
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To: Jay777

And the sorry no good SOBs are using mine and your tax money to do support the terrorist.


45 posted on 01/17/2006 4:18:46 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Jay777

How many times does that happen... I was about to keyword this "ENEMYWITHIN" and when I went to click on "add keyword" it was already there...


46 posted on 01/17/2006 5:01:39 AM PST by thoughtomator
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To: Jay777
Yea OK, whatever! Wouldn't they need to know the details of the program before calling it illegal? This kind of flies in the face of presumption of innocence till proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of pears.
47 posted on 01/17/2006 6:00:33 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Howlin

The ACLU LOST in 2002 and they want to sue AGAIN? ACLU... insanity is thy name. (see post 27)


48 posted on 01/17/2006 6:04:36 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: kingu
Asked and answered; this issue has already been handled by the courts. When acting in the capacity of the commander in chief, the president has broad wartime powers. Congress authorized the president, after 9/11, to conduct wartime actions against any current or future terrorists...

Does this mean, in theory, a President has the power to ban private ownership of guns?

49 posted on 01/17/2006 6:12:30 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Edgerunner

If the ACLU sues and it either gets tossed or they lose then it's another case law in the Presidents Belt as long as the administration says nothing about the details of the program.


50 posted on 01/17/2006 6:19:29 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: kingu

This ACLU action is a counter-offensive to the ongoing criminal investigation into the news leaks. The NYT is calling for help from the liberal sidelines. Notice that this coincides with fresh rantings from our former vice-rapist Al Gore and even that ingrate Arlan Sphincter(Can he be removed from his chairmanship?)


51 posted on 01/17/2006 6:28:01 AM PST by hford02 (If you work for the CIA don't tell anybody anything.)
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To: shalom aleichem
Randy "Duke" Cunningham called into a talk show last year, probably some fill-in for Rush, and said he would go after awarding attorney fees in certain civil rights violation cases (Section 1983 cases). That seems to be the life blood of ACLU and the club they threaten little towns with when they want Crosses on public property dismantled. The Duke left some unfinished business when he departed Congress recently. Maybe that's why he was exposed.,

Yeah, I heard something about that...that's a great start and we should push it hard. But I'm convinced the the ACLU is dirty and has some problems in fundraising, ethics, taxes, etc., and should maybe have to suffer a little in court...expose themselves more...more suits..more exposure etc.

52 posted on 01/17/2006 6:41:54 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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I have but one question for the ACLU. How are you going to "protect" my rights if I'm dead because of a terrorist attack.

Enough said.


53 posted on 01/17/2006 6:47:08 AM PST by excalibur1701
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To: Jay777

American Communist Lunatic Union


54 posted on 01/17/2006 7:10:51 AM PST by Quickgun
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To: wvobiwan

With the Oregon legal death suit by the SC today 6-3 even with Alito on the Court the vote will still be 5-4


55 posted on 01/17/2006 10:03:13 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Jay777

""President Bush may believe he can authorize spying on Americans without judicial or Congressional approval, but this program is illegal and we intend to put a stop to it," said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. "The current surveillance of Americans is a chilling assertion of presidential power that has not been seen since the days of Richard Nixon."


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1559553/posts

In 1994, President Clinton Expanded The Use Of Warrantless Searches To Entirely Domestic Situations With No Foreign Intelligence Value Whatsoever. In A Radio Address Promoting A Crime- Fighting Bill, Mr. Clinton Discussed A New Policy To Conduct Warrantless Searches In Highly Violent Public Housing Projects." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05) "One Of The Most Famous Examples Of Warrantless Searches In Recent Years Was The Investigation Of CIA Official Aldrich H. Ames, Who Ultimately Pleaded Guilty To Spying For The Former Soviet Union. That Case Was Largely Built Upon Secret Searches Of Ames' Home And Office In 1993, Conducted Without Federal Warrants." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05)

President Bill Clinton: "(T)he Attorney General Is Authorized To Approve Physical Searches, Without A Court Order, To Acquire Foreign Intelligence Information For Periods Of Up To One Year ..." (President Bill Clinton, Executive Order 12949, "Foreign Intelligence Physical Searches," 2/9/95)

Meanwhile, Polling Shows Americans Support President Bush's Decision On Wire Tapping: "(A Rasmussen Reports Survey Found) Sixty-Four Percent (64 percent) Of Americans Believe The National Security Agency (NSA) Should Be Allowed To Intercept Telephone Conversations Between Terrorism Suspects In Other Countries And People Living In The United States … Just 23 percent Disagree." (Rasmussen Reports' Web site, http://www.rasmussenreports.com, Accessed 1/6/06)




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56 posted on 01/17/2006 10:19:38 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: umgud

"The ACLU is the spawn of Satan."


57 posted on 01/17/2006 10:47:18 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: Digger

We can't just walk in and trash their offices. The rule of law is the rule of law, and it applies to everyone. Instead, confirm Judge Alito.


58 posted on 01/17/2006 1:14:37 PM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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To: Jay777

Its not American, its not Civil, its not Liberating, but they might be an unholy union.


59 posted on 01/17/2006 1:16:29 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Fruit of the Spirit

Yeah, I think this lawsuit is basically just a publicity stunt these groups are using to get more donations. Unless I'm missing something, they have no chance whatsoever of winning this lawsuit.


60 posted on 01/17/2006 1:19:48 PM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. ¤¤)
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