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ACLU Sues to Stop Illegal Spying on Americans, Saying President is Not Above the Law
PRN News ^ | January 17, 12:01 am ET | Unknown

Posted on 01/16/2006 9:54:03 PM PST by Jay777

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To: kingu

This ACLU action is a counter-offensive to the ongoing criminal investigation into the news leaks. The NYT is calling for help from the liberal sidelines. Notice that this coincides with fresh rantings from our former vice-rapist Al Gore and even that ingrate Arlan Sphincter(Can he be removed from his chairmanship?)


51 posted on 01/17/2006 6:28:01 AM PST by hford02 (If you work for the CIA don't tell anybody anything.)
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To: shalom aleichem
Randy "Duke" Cunningham called into a talk show last year, probably some fill-in for Rush, and said he would go after awarding attorney fees in certain civil rights violation cases (Section 1983 cases). That seems to be the life blood of ACLU and the club they threaten little towns with when they want Crosses on public property dismantled. The Duke left some unfinished business when he departed Congress recently. Maybe that's why he was exposed.,

Yeah, I heard something about that...that's a great start and we should push it hard. But I'm convinced the the ACLU is dirty and has some problems in fundraising, ethics, taxes, etc., and should maybe have to suffer a little in court...expose themselves more...more suits..more exposure etc.

52 posted on 01/17/2006 6:41:54 AM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: All

I have but one question for the ACLU. How are you going to "protect" my rights if I'm dead because of a terrorist attack.

Enough said.


53 posted on 01/17/2006 6:47:08 AM PST by excalibur1701
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To: Jay777

American Communist Lunatic Union


54 posted on 01/17/2006 7:10:51 AM PST by Quickgun
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To: wvobiwan

With the Oregon legal death suit by the SC today 6-3 even with Alito on the Court the vote will still be 5-4


55 posted on 01/17/2006 10:03:13 AM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: Jay777

""President Bush may believe he can authorize spying on Americans without judicial or Congressional approval, but this program is illegal and we intend to put a stop to it," said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. "The current surveillance of Americans is a chilling assertion of presidential power that has not been seen since the days of Richard Nixon."


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1559553/posts

In 1994, President Clinton Expanded The Use Of Warrantless Searches To Entirely Domestic Situations With No Foreign Intelligence Value Whatsoever. In A Radio Address Promoting A Crime- Fighting Bill, Mr. Clinton Discussed A New Policy To Conduct Warrantless Searches In Highly Violent Public Housing Projects." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05) "One Of The Most Famous Examples Of Warrantless Searches In Recent Years Was The Investigation Of CIA Official Aldrich H. Ames, Who Ultimately Pleaded Guilty To Spying For The Former Soviet Union. That Case Was Largely Built Upon Secret Searches Of Ames' Home And Office In 1993, Conducted Without Federal Warrants." (Charles Hurt, "'Warrantless' Searches Not Unprecedented," The Washington Times, 12/22/05)

President Bill Clinton: "(T)he Attorney General Is Authorized To Approve Physical Searches, Without A Court Order, To Acquire Foreign Intelligence Information For Periods Of Up To One Year ..." (President Bill Clinton, Executive Order 12949, "Foreign Intelligence Physical Searches," 2/9/95)

Meanwhile, Polling Shows Americans Support President Bush's Decision On Wire Tapping: "(A Rasmussen Reports Survey Found) Sixty-Four Percent (64 percent) Of Americans Believe The National Security Agency (NSA) Should Be Allowed To Intercept Telephone Conversations Between Terrorism Suspects In Other Countries And People Living In The United States … Just 23 percent Disagree." (Rasmussen Reports' Web site, http://www.rasmussenreports.com, Accessed 1/6/06)




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56 posted on 01/17/2006 10:19:38 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: umgud

"The ACLU is the spawn of Satan."


57 posted on 01/17/2006 10:47:18 AM PST by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: Digger

We can't just walk in and trash their offices. The rule of law is the rule of law, and it applies to everyone. Instead, confirm Judge Alito.


58 posted on 01/17/2006 1:14:37 PM PST by defenderSD (い In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. い)
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To: Jay777

Its not American, its not Civil, its not Liberating, but they might be an unholy union.


59 posted on 01/17/2006 1:16:29 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Fruit of the Spirit

Yeah, I think this lawsuit is basically just a publicity stunt these groups are using to get more donations. Unless I'm missing something, they have no chance whatsoever of winning this lawsuit.


60 posted on 01/17/2006 1:19:48 PM PST by defenderSD (い In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. い)
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To: defenderSD

Exactly right. It's junk justice to keep the issue alive in the press so Chris Matthews and George Clooney have something to bitch about.


61 posted on 01/17/2006 1:24:12 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Jay777

They say the president is not above the law, but I'm pretty sure that the ACLU feels it is!


62 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:46 PM PST by Libertina
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To: Deb

Also, as far as I know, statements by liberal groups that this NSA program is illegal are totally false and amount to nothing more than a cheap poltical propaganda campaign to smear the Bush Administration. I'm afraid we've reached the stage where liberal groups and many democrat politicians have essentially no concern about honesty and factual accuracy. Their political strategy has become identical to the crude, raw strategy of the Clinton/Gore administration, which is simply to do anything to win and get what they want, using tactics that are not grounded in any principles or morality. We have to really start fighting to preserve a viable, relatively honest political process in the US.


63 posted on 01/17/2006 2:03:58 PM PST by defenderSD (い In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. い)
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To: Jay777

For chirst sake is there no one and nothing those monkey sucking liberals won't sue?!


64 posted on 01/17/2006 3:12:06 PM PST by futurerulerkch (I know where you live or do I?)
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To: defenderSD

Is more like group think.. where they keep reinforcing each other's fantasies.. so that they cannot even tell what the truth is anymore.


65 posted on 01/17/2006 3:20:15 PM PST by dalight
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To: Jay777

Find the leaders of this organization and introduce small pieces of lead/copper alloy into their brains. Problem solved.


66 posted on 01/17/2006 3:21:29 PM PST by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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To: wvobiwan

I agree.. this is awesome.. it should be bucked right up to the Supreme Court for immediate disposition.. and that would grab some interesting headlines.


67 posted on 01/17/2006 3:23:44 PM PST by dalight
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To: dalight

There's definitely some of that happening too.


68 posted on 01/17/2006 3:43:10 PM PST by defenderSD (い In a battle of wits against a FReeper, the typical liberal is unarmed. い)
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To: umgud
These people are not only traitors, they are the enemy within.

I use this whenever possible because so many people don't know what the term refers to Fifth Column

69 posted on 01/17/2006 4:35:40 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: right-wingin_It
Have people ever tried suing the ACLU in an offensive way. I'm talking about suing the organization itself, funding, operation, tax status, etc...Anything?

I have heard many times before the ACLU takes Federal Funding. Does anyone know if this is a fact? IF it is true, we are truly a nation of idiots, allowing the Federal Government to finance its own destruction. Please someone tell me this is an urban legend.

70 posted on 01/17/2006 4:38:41 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: p23185

Jay says they don't get federal funding (well not directly at least). I'm not so convinced though...Every left wing group out ther has found a way to subsidize their cause. Dirty crooks.


71 posted on 01/17/2006 5:48:22 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: p23185; Jay777

Ping (#70&71)


72 posted on 01/17/2006 5:49:53 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: defenderSD

I heard (I think on the Factory) that the ACLU get $75M to re-train seniors for job placements and their ratio is about 20%. To me, that speaks volumes about the ACLU!


73 posted on 01/17/2006 10:32:13 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Jay777

How about the rest of us file a class action lawsuit against the ACLU and their clients in this case for endangering us in the war on terrorism?

We have just as much evidence they have collaborated with the enemy as they have evidence they've been spied on.

If they can use discovery to find out IF they've been spied on, we can use discovery to find out IF they've collaborated with the enemy.


74 posted on 01/17/2006 10:47:34 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Jay777
You should read the full page editorial that M.U.C.C. put on their last page in the Feb. issue of Michigan Out of Doors Magazine.

A full page bashing President Bush for spying on innocent Americans without warrants, court orders, or the approval of Congress.

This is to be expected of liberal left wing moonbat groups, not a nonprofit,nonpartisan,Tax deductible Organization whose stated mission is to represent sportsmans clubs on Hunting/Fishing, and issues dealing with the environmental issues in Michigan.

I'm not sure how to do it, but they need to get Freeped until they lose their nonprofit status.

Michigan United Conservation Clubs as been leaning to the left for the past 5 years or so, but they have tipped over now into a bucket of crap that they printed and signed their name to.

We might not be able to get rid of the ACLU yet, but I'll bet Freepers could cause M.U.C.C. more problems than they ever dreamed.
75 posted on 01/17/2006 11:07:36 PM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Jay777; backhoe; piasa; All
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "WHO'S REALLY BEHIND THE ACLU LAWSUIT?" by Debbie Schlussel (January 20, 2006)

76 posted on 01/21/2006 11:05:22 PM PST by Cindy
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