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Democrats abort deal on Alito vote
The Washington Times ^ | January 17, 2006 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 01/16/2006 11:20:52 PM PST by msnimje

Senate Democrats have scrapped a "good-faith" agreement they made two months ago to allow the Judiciary Committee to vote today on the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr.

"This is a new low in our confirmation process," said Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican. "Not only because it is virtually unprecedented, but also because it reflects a breach of trust."

According to Judiciary Committee rules, either party can stall a nomination in committee for only one week, meaning that Judge Alito's nomination will likely be approved by the panel during an executive committee meeting next Tuesday.

The entire Senate will take up the nomination no later than Jan. 25 and will remain on it until Judge Alito's nomination is voted up or down, said Eric Ueland, chief of staff for Majority Leader Bill Frist.

"Justice delayed will not be a justice denied, as Sam Alito will receive a fair up-or-down vote and join the Supreme Court before month's end," he said. "Any remaining threats to filibuster are just filibluster."

Although Democratic leaders have not ruled out an attempt to filibuster the nomination, such a maneuver seems increasingly unlikely.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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I guees "extraordinary circumstances" means the Donks are not getting their way.
1 posted on 01/16/2006 11:20:53 PM PST by msnimje
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To: msnimje
said Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican. "Not only because it is virtually unprecedented, but also because it reflects a breach of trust."

Jeez! After all this time, they still trust the Democrats to be honorable????

Cornyn, you're nuts

WE knew they'd break the "agreement" at the drop of a hat, and they'd drop it themselves, for no reason in the world, not even a bad reason. Why didn't you "professional Politicians" know??

2 posted on 01/16/2006 11:24:51 PM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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To: msnimje
But, according to his office, the November agreement was not binding anyway because it wasn't in writing.

It is outrageous that in the American political system, there is NO price to pay for this kind of slimy behavior.
3 posted on 01/16/2006 11:28:13 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: msnimje
They filibuster and the nuclear option is sure to pass. They have no choice but to let this one go. Its either that or the President gets all his judges from here on out.
4 posted on 01/16/2006 11:29:05 PM PST by Nateman (Stop the spin! Flush Clinton again!)
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To: indianrightwinger
It is outrageous that in the American political system, there is NO price to pay for this kind of slimy behavior

They pay the price at the ballot box and in lowering of public opinion.
5 posted on 01/16/2006 11:29:59 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: Nateman
Its either that or the President gets all his judges from here on out.

I think he might anyway and that is why the Donks are fighting so hard. It is more than just the prospect of Justice Alito but rather they are seeing an end to the effectiveness of their despicable blocking tactics.

Also, they are seeing THEY are out of the mainstream.
6 posted on 01/16/2006 11:32:24 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: msnimje
They pay the price at the ballot box and in lowering of public opinion.

Really? when was the last time one of these high profile Democrats got beat?

Seems to me bad behaviour guarentees re-election in that party. The only significant player form the DEMs to get the boot that I can recall is deeply saddened Daschal.

7 posted on 01/16/2006 11:39:14 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: msnimje

Do we still expect people like Ted Keddeny to keep their word?


8 posted on 01/16/2006 11:39:40 PM PST by theelephantway
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To: msnimje
But, according to his office, the November agreement was not binding anyway because it wasn't in writing.

Lying SOB; it was on VIDEOTAPE, FGS.

9 posted on 01/16/2006 11:41:43 PM PST by Howlin
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To: msnimje

Their tactics often work. We got Fort Worthless Jim, They got Newt Gingrich, Livingston, and now Tom Delay. If they don't filibuster Alito they will have a chance to make it work with future appointments.


10 posted on 01/16/2006 11:42:05 PM PST by Nateman (Stop the spin! Flush Clinton again!)
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To: adamsjas
They are the minority in the House, the Senate, the State Governorships and are not in the White House.

Some states are beyond redemption such as Massachusetts and New York but those voters got what they deserve.
11 posted on 01/16/2006 11:42:13 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: theelephantway
Do we still expect people like Ted Keddeny to keep their word?

Ted Kennedy is a murderous drunk and should be treated with the same respect as all other murderous drunks.
12 posted on 01/16/2006 11:43:27 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: Nateman

Not now and not in the near future.


13 posted on 01/16/2006 11:44:41 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: adamsjas
"Really? when was the last time one of these high profile Democrats got beat?"

Paging former Senate Minority Leader Dashcle...Paging Senator Daschle...Oh, he doesn't appear to be in Congress any longer.

Oooops.

14 posted on 01/16/2006 11:45:35 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Heh.


15 posted on 01/16/2006 11:46:21 PM PST by Howlin
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To: msnimje
I just posted this on another thread, but I think it bears repeating:

"Holy crap, guys! We really are up sh*t creek without a paddle!"

16 posted on 01/16/2006 11:48:13 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: Southack
Paging former Senate Minority Leader Dashcle

You should read the complete post before rushing to reply.

17 posted on 01/16/2006 11:48:36 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: Howlin

Videotape that ought to be played all over the USA about now. (As if politicians who don't keep promises are anything new, alas)


18 posted on 01/16/2006 11:50:49 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: Nateman

This tactic means there is a chance that the parental notification law or end of life case will be decided by then.


I still would think not but the extra week means there is a greater chancde O'Conner's vote might be the difference in those cases.


19 posted on 01/16/2006 11:51:08 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: adamsjas
"Really? when was the last time one of these high profile Democrats got beat?"

So who's that Democratic Senator from Florida?

Oh wait...there's not one!

Georgia? Not there either.

Alabama?! Nope.

Texas? No, again.

Democrats have progressively lost most state governorships, most state legislatures, the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

And they insist upon doing more of the same (e.g. fighting mean and dirty, lying, backstabbing). Multiple left-wing editorials have insisted that the U.S. population must change...rather than have Democrats change.

...So they talk themselves out of more and more power.

Heck, they are so busy scandalizing and backstabbing and throwing mud that they haven't been able to propose a new policy idea.

What was the most recent positive idea that you've heard from Democrats, and when did you hear it?

20 posted on 01/16/2006 11:52:47 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Democrats have progressively lost most state governorships, most state legislatures, the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

Hopefully, the governorship in Illinois will go back republican this time around, I can't see Blago being re-elected!

21 posted on 01/17/2006 12:04:05 AM PST by blondee123 (Close our borders to illegals! Don't try to appease us!)
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To: msnimje

~sigh~

Another day, another dim lies. Cornyn, Frist, Specter, Hatch all knew this was going to happen. They have some catchy soundbites for the media, though.


22 posted on 01/17/2006 12:12:12 AM PST by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: msnimje

I am from NY and I do not deserver either Chuck or Hillary. I have voted for neither ever in my life.


23 posted on 01/17/2006 12:17:38 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: America's Resolve

You beat me to it. That was exactly what I was thinking and it is why I am so weary of trying to be a supporter of the Republicans.


24 posted on 01/17/2006 12:31:22 AM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: msnimje
Let's shout it from the mountain tops....

DEMOCRATS - the party of DELAY, DETRACT, DISTRACT, & DALLY

25 posted on 01/17/2006 12:37:38 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: msnimje

What a friggin' surprise!

Honestly, does anyone, besides Clueless Arlen expect the Rats to ever honor an agreement?

In Demospeak, "trust me" means "F you".


26 posted on 01/17/2006 1:08:45 AM PST by Yankee
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To: Southack
You know, it would be funny to page Daschle over a loudspeaker for all the Senators to hear... and then have Thune scheduled to talk up front right after that.
27 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:17 AM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: adamsjas
well look at their creepy constituencies...San Franfreako and Mess a chewsit...They could both fall into the sea and we;d be better off.
28 posted on 01/17/2006 2:23:19 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: Southack
Democrats have progressively lost most state governorships, most state legislatures, the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

That's why they call themselves "progressives".

29 posted on 01/17/2006 2:29:13 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: msnimje
This is bad news. What they have done is give their moneyed allies a week and a half to mount a media campaign against Alito. If it's well done and massive, we could be in trouble.

I wonder whether the Republicans will finally learn that, no matter how many pleasantries they have with them, no matter how many enjoyable dinner parties or drinks at the bar, no matter how many apparently pleasant social or work encounters, they are still dealing with liars and cheats.

If Specter loses the nomination because of this, he is going to look and feel like an a**.

30 posted on 01/17/2006 2:36:47 AM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: msnimje

Ah, let them keep it up.

They pay the price.

Let's see, 5 out of the 7 last Presidential elections have resulted in a Republican as the President, Majority in the House, Majority in the Senate, what is about to be two conservative Supreme Court justices in a row...they pay a price.


31 posted on 01/17/2006 2:43:12 AM PST by dawn53
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To: America's Resolve
Cornyn, you're nuts

The Senate is a debating society as well as a political body. When your opposition breaks agreements it's imperative your side point it out in the most explicit terms possible in order to reach those among the electorate residing within the lowest-common-denominator stratum.

Cornyn's one of the good guys. He isn't surprised and is here merely engaging in good political maneuvering. Why take him to task?

When your opponent is untrustworthy, even if it's expected, point it out in the press for crying out loud!

32 posted on 01/17/2006 2:49:05 AM PST by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: msnimje

J.P. Stevens is not going to stay on for two more years. That'll freak out the blues. WHAM.


33 posted on 01/17/2006 2:54:28 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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To: America's Resolve
Cornyn, you're nuts

The Senate is a debating society as well as a political body. When your opposition breaks agreements it's imperative your side point it out in the most explicit terms possible in order to reach those among the electorate residing within the lowest-common-denominator stratum.

Cornyn's one of the good guys. He isn't surprised and is here merely engaging in good political maneuvering. Why take him to task?

When your opponent is untrustworthy, even if it's expected, point it out in the press for crying out loud!

34 posted on 01/17/2006 2:56:19 AM PST by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: msnimje

Note to Republicans....never ever trust a RAT...learn it and live by it!


35 posted on 01/17/2006 3:00:32 AM PST by rrrod
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To: johnmecainrino
This tactic means there is a chance that the parental notification law or end of life case will be decided by then.
I still would think not but the extra week means there is a greater chancde O'Conner's vote might be the difference in those cases.

Roberts and the entire Court surely have an eye on the confirmation. Keep in mind that O'Connor's opinions that justify stare decisis do so in large part to maintain public confidence in the Court's decisions and methodology. I have a feeling that 5-4 decisions will be held up at this point in time rather than issued.

The Court has to know that issuing a 5-4 decision now will be politically volatile, no matter which way the case turns, and would validate delaying tactics.

Whether the Court considers any of that is pure speculation on my part - but I think the projected ramifications of issuing a close decision are real.

36 posted on 01/17/2006 3:03:12 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Talking_Mouse

That's no excuse...I am a former New Yorker and managed to escape with the help of the 'underground railroad' in '76 and moved to freedom in SC.

As long as you are taxpayer in NY, you keep the socialist in power.


37 posted on 01/17/2006 3:04:42 AM PST by RetSignman (( HELP...I'm trapped between these curved things))
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To: msnimje

Trust the Democrats?

Stupid idea!

And to think these guys are our leaders.


38 posted on 01/17/2006 3:07:36 AM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: msnimje
"Not only because it is virtually unprecedented, but also because it reflects a breach of trust."

Never trust snakes, Democrats, or fireants.

39 posted on 01/17/2006 3:08:08 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: msnimje

I gotta believe that somebody outside the Senate is telling them what to do on this one. This action means that everybody in the Senate gets a weeks less vacation time next time 'round. Senators don't care about much, but you start screwing around with the vacation time, and you get their attention.

My best guess is that somebody with the power to do so picked up the phone and told the Senate Democrats to place all procedural roadblocks possible in the way of the Alito nomination. The only person with the power to do that is Soros. Soros has purchased the Democrat Party lock, stock and barrel, and is now calling the shots.

I wonder what rank-and-file Democrats think about the fact that the Moonbat Left has taken over their party. When will they look up and realize that the Republicans are a heck of a lot closer to where they want to be than Code Pink and George Soros.


40 posted on 01/17/2006 3:10:21 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Southack
'So who's that Democratic Senator from Florida?'

I thought Nelson was one, and Harris was running against him.

41 posted on 01/17/2006 3:14:37 AM PST by mathluv (Bushbot, Snowflake, Dittohead ---- Bring it on!!!)
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To: msnimje

The Democrats are an enemy in retreat. They fell into the trap of fighting a battle on a field not of their choosing, and after a frontal assault on a well-prepared and defended fortress, they were routed.

They are now buying time: attempting to triage and save the politically wounded. They've got to determine who of their ilk absolutely has to vote against Alito, and who has to be allowed to support his nomination.


42 posted on 01/17/2006 3:15:11 AM PST by soxfan
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To: Howlin
Lying SOB; it was on VIDEOTAPE, FGS.

You know it doesn't matter, Howlin. If it HAD been in writing, they'd be parsing the words and say that wasn't binding either. Make a deal with a snake and you get lots of hissing and slithering because that's its inherent nature. Did the RINO 7 really expect them to act like honorable people?

43 posted on 01/17/2006 4:05:14 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Southack

The Democrat Senator from Florida is Nelson.


44 posted on 01/17/2006 4:06:53 AM PST by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: Cboldt
This tactic means there is a chance that the parental notification law or end of life case will be decided by then.

I was of the impression that the court was in recess until February.

45 posted on 01/17/2006 4:13:49 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: msnimje

Intersting that they chose the word "abort" to use in this headline. That is in essence what this is about. I canlive with a one week delay provided the Republicans pound the message that the Democrats cannot be trusted with something as simple as a gentlemans agreement.


46 posted on 01/17/2006 4:16:06 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: IamConservative
I was of the impression that the court was in recess until February.

During most of the Alito hearings, I had been too, and asserted the same thing. Then I looked it up to check my claim, and found out that the Court heard cases last week, and is hearing cases this week. The Court is on recess after that, until February 21.

http://www.supremecourtus.gov/.../monthlyargumentcaljanuary2006.pdf
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/.../monthlyargumentcalfebruary2006.pdf

47 posted on 01/17/2006 4:21:52 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

What happens now with Frist's comment that he would keep the Senate in session to vote on Alito if the Dem's stall the committee past the 20th? I think I remember a thread about that from this past Saturday?


48 posted on 01/17/2006 4:28:43 AM PST by babaloo
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To: babaloo
What happens now with Frist's comment that he would keep the Senate in session to vote on Alito if the Dem's stall the committee past the 20th? I think I remember a thread about that from this past Saturday?

Frist can't schedule Senate floor events around the nomination until after it is voted out of Committee. Right now, we think that will be on the 24th.

Frist has said that he will make the Alito nomination the sole business of the Senate from the time it is voted out of Committee until it is voted up or down. There are a few possible procedural avenues upon the nomination being voted out of Committee, including a unanimous consent agreement from the DEMs to vote up or down without invoking a cloture motion.

49 posted on 01/17/2006 4:41:30 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: msnimje

what has sickened me about the whole confirmation process has been the sheer ponderous PREDICTABILITY of everything the Donks have said, postured, done.


50 posted on 01/17/2006 4:46:06 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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