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Mexican military aggressive entrance into U.S. territory
The washington Times ^ | January 17, 2006 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 01/17/2006 7:49:52 AM PST by Sharks

The U.S. Border Patrol has warned agents in Arizona of incursions into the United States by Mexican soldiers "trained to escape, evade and counterambush" if detected -- a scenario Mexico denied yesterday. The warning to Border Patrol agents in Tucson, Ariz., comes after increased sightings of what authorities described as heavily armed Mexican military units on the U.S. side of the border. The warning asks the agents to report the size, activity, location, time and equipment of any units observed. It also cautions agents to keep "a low profile," to use "cover and concealment" in approaching the Mexican units, to employ "shadows and camouflage" to conceal themselves and to "stay as quiet as possible." Border Patrol spokesman Salvador Zamora confirmed that a "military incursion" warning was given to Tucson agents, but said it was designed to inform them how to react to any sightings of military and foreign police in this country and how to properly document any incursion. Mr. Zamora added that although incursions by the Mexican military do occur, they usually have taken place in areas of the border "not marked by monuments or signs." He said U.S. military units also have crossed mistakenly into Mexico. But Rafael Laveaga, spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, denied that Mexican military personnel are crossing into the United States. "I strongly deny any incursions by the Mexican military as inaccurate allegations," Mr. Laveaga said. "The Mexican military is a well-respected institution with strict rules on how to control Northern Mexico. It maintains a protocol of not going within a mile of the border, and those who would trespass would be severely punished." Mr. Laveaga said some drug smugglers headed "both north and south" wear uniforms and drive military-type vehicles, and might have "confused" U.S. authorities.

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TOPICS: Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity; drugsmuggling; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; invasion; jerryseper; mexicanmilitary; mexicantroops; mexico; paragraphsrfriends; politics; usborderpatrol; usmilitary
The invasion is on the way..... SAY WHAT?
1 posted on 01/17/2006 7:49:53 AM PST by Sharks
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To: Sharks

This would be absolutely hilarious ....were it to be taking part in some sitcom. I real life however it has to make people think (although, as I've said before, the government doesn't care about illegal immigration. Not the Dems, and not the Repubs either. Actually it is quite funny ....someone should google 'Individual Taxpayer Identification Number,' or simply 'ITIN').


2 posted on 01/17/2006 7:54:53 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Sharks
Maybe it's time to deploy a Delta Force Unit on the border and catch these guys red-handed. Then we can determine whether it is smugglers dressed up as Mexican army personnel or actual Mexican Army personell.
3 posted on 01/17/2006 7:56:49 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: nuke rocketeer

You got it


4 posted on 01/17/2006 8:00:38 AM PST by Sharks
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To: Sharks

I'll take one Texas rancher on his own land against a whole platoon of Mex soldiers, and give odds.

We just need to start shooting them when they're on our side of the border, period. We'd be perfectly justified, especially if they are armed.


5 posted on 01/17/2006 8:02:53 AM PST by wvobiwan (It's OUR Net! If you don't like it keep your stanky routers off it!)
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To: wvobiwan

If a rancher started shooting at the Mexican Military on our side, and someone got killed, I am sure the people in Washington will figure a way to cover it up, they won't want to upset Fox or Mexican's in this country. They probably arrest the rancher and give the farm away.


6 posted on 01/17/2006 8:06:32 AM PST by StuLongIsland
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To: Sharks

"Border Patrol spokesman Salvador Zamora confirmed that a "military incursion" warning was given to Tucson agents, but said it was designed to inform them how to react to any sightings of military and foreign police in this country and how to properly document any incursion."

One jet and one GPS bomb will quickly take care of the problem.


7 posted on 01/17/2006 8:07:44 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Sharks
"Mr. Laveaga said some drug smugglers headed "both north and south" wear uniforms and drive military-type vehicles, and might have "confused" U.S. authorities."

If this is the case, then these people should be shot on sight.
8 posted on 01/17/2006 8:09:05 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Sharks
Mr. Zamora added that although incursions by the Mexican military do occur, they usually have taken place in areas of the border "not marked by monuments or signs."

There's your problem.

9 posted on 01/17/2006 8:11:00 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Sharks
Alread posted here.
10 posted on 01/17/2006 8:12:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: conservativecorner

"One jet and one GPS bomb will quickly take care of the problem."

The A-10 would be just perfect for this situation.


11 posted on 01/17/2006 8:15:10 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Sharks

"The warning to Border Patrol agents in Tucson, Ariz., comes after increased sightings of what authorities described as heavily armed Mexican military units on the U.S. side of the border."

See... This is the kind of junk that results because the business owners wanna hire the illegals. They have put our country at risk! ...Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go consult one of those business regarding another moral issue...


12 posted on 01/17/2006 8:19:11 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Sharks
"It (the report)also cautions agents to keep "a low profile," to use "cover and concealment" in approaching the Mexican units, to employ "shadows and camouflage" to conceal themselves and to "stay as quiet as possible."

Wth? Why do our border agents have to hide in their own country from invading Mexicans or who knows who?

Others have already posted good ideas for the correct violent response.

13 posted on 01/17/2006 8:22:56 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: Sharks

president bush says that the mexican troops are just coming here to do jobs Americans refuse to do..............


14 posted on 01/17/2006 8:31:08 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: WhiteGuy

LOL..... LOL....


15 posted on 01/17/2006 8:32:11 AM PST by Sharks
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To: nuke rocketeer

+


16 posted on 01/17/2006 8:48:34 AM PST by Liberty Valance ("Chloe ... I need another way out of here..." ~ Jack Bauer)
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To: Sharks
Nothing to worry about the Dems & Pubbies, have our border security as their number 1 priority...

A joint congressional committe is now being formed to study the problem.......

17 posted on 01/17/2006 9:04:36 AM PST by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: Sharks

And the problem is .. . ? When any foreign army invades the U.S. it is the job of the U.S. armed forces to repel that invasion.

Usually the best way to stop an invasion is to take and hold the enemies country. But can we afford to rebuild Mexico?

Probably the best solution is that the next time the Mexican Military sets bare foot on U.S. territory they should be kicked out together with the Toyoda they rode in on.


18 posted on 01/17/2006 9:05:21 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Sharks

State Governors have the authority to put Nats on the Border. Why are they NOT doing this?

I think after a few armed clashes between Iraqi Vets and Mexican Troops, SOMEONE would take notice and put regulars along the border along with tanks, artillery, choppers and fast movers.

Our Neighbors aren't acting very neighborly.


19 posted on 01/17/2006 9:07:44 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Sharks

Mexico: Making Iran look like our best friend.


20 posted on 01/17/2006 9:14:30 AM PST by madison10
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To: WhiteGuy

They're just invading areas Americans refuse ti invade.


21 posted on 01/17/2006 9:25:18 AM PST by dagogo redux (I never met a Dem yet who didn't understand a slap in the face, or a slug from a 45)
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To: nuke rocketeer
"Maybe it's time to deploy a Delta Force Unit on the border and catch these guys red-handed. Then we can determine whether it is smugglers dressed up as Mexican army personnel or actual Mexican Army personell."

If it's active Mexican Army personell, I want the 4th ID rolling through Mexico City by the end of March. Either the Mexican government controls its troops, or we'll "control" their troops for them.
22 posted on 01/17/2006 9:48:34 AM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: Sharks

Been going on for some time now.

Incidents like this are why many are very hesitant to put N. Guard troops on the border. When we do that, there will be armed clashes and probably a war.


23 posted on 01/17/2006 10:06:46 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: conservativecorner

I do think some smugglers dress up in military type clothes, bit I also Know the Mexican Military has and continues to cross into the US.

I was at a remote port of entry one day when a Mexican tank pulled up on the Mexican side and aimed the turret at the US Port buildings. The US inspectors got on the phone for instructions but no one could really tell them what to do- they were actually told not to worry about it. The Mexican tank driver got out and had a good laugh about it, went into the Mexican port and shortly came out and left.

I thought the whole episode was a little wierd considering that there are incursions and ambushes along the border. I felt he was just thumbing his nose at US Officials. I was pretty ticked but all the US Officials acted as though nothing had happened.


24 posted on 01/17/2006 10:12:23 AM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Sharks

"severely punished"

maybe it's time we dished out some severe punishment....


25 posted on 01/17/2006 10:24:58 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: Sharks

car cinco quatro where are you???????????


26 posted on 01/17/2006 10:49:41 AM PST by right right
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To: Sharks

Did you or any other FReepers see Lou Dobbs' program tonight (Tue.) on CNN in which he demonstrated that the Roman Catholic Church has clearly and decisively aligned itself with the "no borders", unlimited illegal alien immigration lobbies? According to the program this support is replete with the usual charges of racism, etc., against those who believe in border security. Has the R.C. Church sided with LaRaza? What's going on?


28 posted on 01/17/2006 7:06:51 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: T.L.Sink

The church is looking for members.


29 posted on 01/20/2006 10:04:19 AM PST by Sharks
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To: Sharks

Apparently so. Dobbs has covered this more in the past few days and had a spokesperson on for the Roman Catholic Church who tacitly admitted they could care less about our borders or national security and would welcome the hordes of illegals. Dobbs said that ANY church that aids and encourages people to break American laws and engage in partisan politics should lose its tax exempt status. I agree.


30 posted on 01/20/2006 5:15:17 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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