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Doctors seek kitchen knife ban
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=579102005 ^

Posted on 01/17/2006 1:22:45 PM PST by vrwc0915

Doctors seek kitchen knife ban EDWARD BLACK

Key points • Doctors claim long kitchen knives serve no purpose except as weapons • 55 out of 108 homicide victims in Scotland were stabbed last year • Police superintendents say a ban would be difficult to enforce

Key quote "Many assaults are impulsive, often triggered by alcohol or misuse of other drugs, and the long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available, potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting" - Dr Emma Hern, writing in British Medical Journal

(Excerpt) Read more at news.scotsman.com ...


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Knife Control....Then Stick Control.....Then they will just handcuff everyone in public
1 posted on 01/17/2006 1:22:45 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: vrwc0915

I've always said to liberal women who want "assault weapon" bans to remove their "assault knives" from the reach of children in their kitchen.


2 posted on 01/17/2006 1:23:35 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: vrwc0915

When kitchen knives are outlawed, only outlaws will make dinner.


3 posted on 01/17/2006 1:23:36 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (I'm doing the best I ever did, I'm doing the best that I can, now go away!)
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To: vrwc0915
The rest of the story

Story in full LONG, pointed kitchen knives should be banned as part of a concerted effort to reduce the terrible injuries and deaths caused by stabbing attacks, doctors warned today. Accident and emergency medics claim the knives serve no useful purpose in the kitchen but are proving deadly on the streets of Britain, with the doctors claiming the knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings. The doctors claimed they had consulted leading chefs who said the knives were not needed for cooking - a claim disputed by chefs contacted by The Scotsman. Latest figures from the Scottish Executive show that in 2003, 55 of 108 homicide victims were stabbed by a sharp instrument - often a kitchen knife. Writing in the British Medical Journal, specialist registrar Dr Emma Hern and emergency medicine consultant Dr Mike Beckett said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault, but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs. However, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon". Internal organs can be heavily damaged, causing serious injury or death. The doctors said long knives with blunt ends - such as bread knives - would do far less damage. Dr Hern said: "Many assaults are impulsive, often triggered by alcohol or misuse of other drugs, and the long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available, potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting. Government action to ban the sale of such knives would drastically reduce their availability over the course of a few years." Scotland's most respected pathologist, Professor Anthony Busuttil, said: "All the statistics show that for the last 15 years, victims of stabbings, whether fatal or seriously injured, are caused by kitchen knives such as steak knives rather than knives bought specially for the purpose." Restaurateurs and chefs reacted angrily to suggestions of banning kitchen knives. Malcolm Duck, chairman of the Edinburgh Restaurateurs Association, said: "Kitchen knives are designed for a purpose. It would be like asking a surgeon to perform an operation with a bread knife instead of a scalpel. Anything in the house like a cricket bat could be used as weapon in the hands of an idiot." Chief Superintendent Tom Buchan, president of the Association of Scottish Police Superintendents, said although a ban on sharp, pointed kitchen knives would be welcome, it could be difficult to enforce.

4 posted on 01/17/2006 1:23:51 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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What morons. Don't they realize that the knifings were caused by gun bans? A knife ban would be a horrible thing! Imagine all the bludgeonings it would cause!


5 posted on 01/17/2006 1:23:58 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: vrwc0915

I guess a carved turkey would be circumstantial evidence.


6 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:05 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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To: Shalom Israel

Ban The Club!


7 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:24 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Shalom Israel

Well then they could just ban all blunt objects that could be used as a weapon


8 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:29 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: Shalom Israel

Then they'll have to ban hammers and cricket bats.


9 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:33 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Fierce Allegiance

They just need to register them and then everyting will be A-OK


10 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:36 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: vrwc0915

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/52085/ali_g_dangerous_weapons/




Ali G Dangerous Weapons.

Ali G is making fun of a police officer, in a good way.

EXPLICIT LANGUAGE WARNING.


11 posted on 01/17/2006 1:25:58 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: vrwc0915

Maybe they should just cut off everyone's hands as a precaution.


12 posted on 01/17/2006 1:26:12 PM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: vrwc0915

This is from the Onion, right ?


13 posted on 01/17/2006 1:26:13 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: UB355

I wish it was check the source URL


14 posted on 01/17/2006 1:26:48 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915

What does this doctor use to eat meat? I use a knife.


15 posted on 01/17/2006 1:27:10 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: vrwc0915
Anything in the house like a cricket bat could be used as weapon in the hands of an idiot."

If cricket bats are outlawed only crickets will have bats. BTW, has any one seen the size of the crickets thy have over there?

16 posted on 01/17/2006 1:27:17 PM PST by oyez (Appeasement is death!)
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To: Shalom Israel

Found this on the same site:

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=637

It's all about the 'knife culture', sounds like they are already following the same template used to ban guns.


17 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:10 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: nmh
What does this doctor use to eat meat? I use a knife.

I use my mouth.

18 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:10 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: UB355

Unfortunately not. The UK is sinking rapidly into the world of Clockwork Orange, which will lead to a Leftist Totalitarian State.


19 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:20 PM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: vrwc0915
These people constantly surprise me with the level of stupidity possible among doctors.

Have they any idea of how easy it is to make a perfectly good stabbing instrument out of many common household items?

20 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:21 PM PST by yarddog
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To: nmh

I am pretty sure that the pee pee pants behind this don't eat meat at least in the traditional sense


21 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:26 PM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915

To be followed by:

CHEFS SEEK HOSPITAL KNIFE BAN


22 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:29 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: vrwc0915

Wonder how he'll carve a turkey or slice a ham?

You need LONG SHARP KNIVES for THAT.


23 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:32 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: vrwc0915
Accident and emergency medics claim the knives serve no useful purpose in the kitchen

I guess these medics have never had to chop vegetables for a big meal.

Personally, I would be lost in the kitchen without a good, heavy, pointed chef's knife.

24 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:44 PM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: vrwc0915

Pretty old news: article's dated Fri, 27 May 2005.


25 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:48 PM PST by Grut
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To: Shalom Israel
What morons. Don't they realize that the knifings were caused by gun bans? A knife ban would be a horrible thing! Imagine all the bludgeonings it would cause!

Why not just cut to the chase and declare that all of Britain must be constructed and furnished by Playskool and Little Tikes, with generous amounts of foam padding on everything.

Here ya go, Britain! Nothing here with which to harm anyone!

26 posted on 01/17/2006 1:28:56 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: vrwc0915

They can have my Ginsu knives when they pry them from my cold dead fingers!

But wait! There's more!


27 posted on 01/17/2006 1:29:02 PM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: vrwc0915; UB355

This is actually not new. Sometime between 6 months and a year ago the movement to ban kitchen knives started.


28 posted on 01/17/2006 1:29:08 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: vrwc0915

A few years ago in Massachusetts a man was killed by a crossbow arrow in a road rage incident and sure as the sun comes up in the morning some liberal tried to ban crossbows.


29 posted on 01/17/2006 1:29:09 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: HEY4QDEMS

This also gives a whole new threat to "put a fork in it."


30 posted on 01/17/2006 1:29:21 PM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Fierce Allegiance
LOLOLOLOL
31 posted on 01/17/2006 1:29:27 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
When kitchen knives are outlawed, only outlaws will make dinner.

Mrs. CD's Arsenal of Steely Death

32 posted on 01/17/2006 1:30:01 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: vrwc0915

This is, amazingly, a completely true story. The once proud Scottish people have been reduced to socialist moron sheep.


33 posted on 01/17/2006 1:30:03 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: vrwc0915

Stick and stones can break.... I wonder how they'll ban rocks? Maybe we'll all move to outer space. No that won't do, the rock are even bigger. The desert?


34 posted on 01/17/2006 1:30:16 PM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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"Many assaults are impulsive, often triggered by alcohol or misuse of other drugs, and the long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available, potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting"

Why not just make "alcohol or misuse of other drugs" illegal?

35 posted on 01/17/2006 1:30:29 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: vrwc0915
William Wallace would rise from his grave to defend His Countrymen's use of sharp-bladed instruments.

I mean, the knight himself carried a 5+ foot Claymore.

36 posted on 01/17/2006 1:30:39 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: Maceman

You're right. Take away every instrument capable of killing and a killer would use his hands to strangle. If this keeps up the whole world is going to end up in a strait
jacket.


37 posted on 01/17/2006 1:30:44 PM PST by WVNan
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To: vrwc0915

These idiots have never cooked anything more complicated than a microwave dinner. Probably don't know what a whole onion looks like.


38 posted on 01/17/2006 1:30:58 PM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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To: vrwc0915

This proves liberalism is a mental disease.


39 posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:24 PM PST by microgood
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To: Shalom Israel

Morons? Correct.
They're sniffing glue over there, aren't they?


40 posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:24 PM PST by LFOD (Formerly IRAQ - now home.....)
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To: Onelifetogive
Why not just make "alcohol or misuse of other drugs" illegal?

I think an attempt to ban alcohol in Scotland is about the only thing that would really get the population pissed off and in rebellion mood.

41 posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:38 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

LOL.

You can't make this stuff up can you? Exactly how long or short a knife does it take to fatally stab someone? Is it just the point of a knife or the slicing part?

There is probably no end to things that can be used as weapons to kill people if you're that determined to off somebody. How about a sharpened rock lashed to a tree limb? Gonna stop all those? Pick up all the rocks, cut down all the trees?


42 posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:50 PM PST by garyhope (Happy, healthy, prosperous New Year to all good Freepers and our brave military.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The once proud Scottish people have been reduced to socialist moron sheep.

Aw, they've got plenty of new Muslim friends around to wear the kilts in the Scottish family. ;)

43 posted on 01/17/2006 1:32:00 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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"Latest figures from the Scottish Executive show that in 2003, 55 of 108 homicide victims were stabbed by a sharp instrument - often a kitchen knife. "

Here is where I quit reading this mindless drivel. Any question as to why? I want to know what the other 48 homicide victims were STABBED with that was not a "sharp instrument." How many people die from a stab wound inflicted by a BLUNT object? See, this is called a beating not a stabbing.


44 posted on 01/17/2006 1:32:12 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: vrwc0915

This is a joke, right. Something from 'The Onion' or a comparable site.


45 posted on 01/17/2006 1:32:31 PM PST by wbill
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To: colorado tanker
These idiots have never cooked anything more complicated than a microwave dinner. Probably don't know what a whole onion looks like.

Remember where we are talking about. They are still boiling everything and the microwave hasn't made it there yet.

46 posted on 01/17/2006 1:32:32 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: vrwc0915

This HAS to be a joke.

Please, tell me it's a joke . . .


47 posted on 01/17/2006 1:32:54 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: vrwc0915

"Doctors claim long kitchen knives serve no purpose except as weapons"

What a bunch of morons! I use a 10" chef's knife for almost all my kitchen cutting chores, from the heaviest cutting job to peeling a carrot. It's razor sharp (I could literally shave with it). It's my food processor.

About the only thing I don't use it for is filetting fish, although I could if necessary.

All my other knives pretty much just sit.


48 posted on 01/17/2006 1:33:42 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: vrwc0915
Key quote "Many assaults are impulsive, often triggered by alcohol or misuse of other drugs, and the long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available, potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting" - Dr Emma Hern, writing in British Medical Journal

Then they might as well ban ice picks, long forks, pens, pencils, and anything else that a person in a fit of rage would use to attack another person. Rocks too.

These idiots need to resinstate the death penalty and kill the killers, quickly and send the messagte that it is the behavior that must end, and not the tool. Typical leftist, socialist outcomes to their foolish stances and p[olicies.

49 posted on 01/17/2006 1:33:45 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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First the knives, next it will b ice-picks.

Fortunately it will take them some time to get around to banning rubber chickens.

50 posted on 01/17/2006 1:34:01 PM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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