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U.S. Repeating Arms Announces Plans To Close Winchester Plant
Hartford Courant (Connecticut) ^ | 1/17/06 | n/a

Posted on 01/18/2006 9:18:54 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

U.S. Repeating Arms Announces Plans To Close Winchester Plant

3:23 PM EST, January 17, 2006

Associated Press NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- U.S. Repeating Arms said Tuesday it will close its Winchester firearm factory, threatening the future of a rifle that pioneers toted into the Wild West and John Wayne hoisted onto the big screen.

"It's part of who we are as a nation just like it's part of who we are as a city. It's the gun that won the West," Mayor John DeStefano said. "What are we going to have, Winchester rifles manufactured in China? Is this what we're coming to?"

The announcement touched off a lobbying effort by city officials and union leaders who hoped to find someone to buy the plant before it closes March 31. If no buyer comes forward, it could spell the end for nearly all commercially produced Winchesters, said Everett Corey, a representative of the International Association of Machinists District 26.

"Winchester would be pretty much defunct," he said. "They're not going to produce them, other than a couple custom-type models."

The company has been plagued by slumping firearm sales. More than 19,000 worked there during World War II, but the plant employs fewer than 200 now.

"Several generations have worked at this place, a lot of fathers and brothers, sons, uncles and daughters," said Paul DeMennato, facility director at U.S. Repeating Arms. "A lot of marriages were people who met at Winchester."

U.S. Repeating Arms, which is owned by the Herstal Group, a Belgium company, has said for years that it was on the brink of closing the plant.

DeMennato said the company is negotiating the sale of its plant. The Winchester name is owned by Missouri-based Olin Corp., which had sold U.S. Repeating Arms the right to use the name until next year.

Olin had no immediate word on its plans for the Winchester name. DeMennato said he hopes the name will be sold along with the plant.

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On the Web:

U.S. Repeating Arms: http://www.usracmfg.com

Winchester firearms: http://www.winchesterguns.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; manufacturing; shotguns; theend; winchester
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1 posted on 01/18/2006 9:18:56 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Just damm.


2 posted on 01/18/2006 9:24:13 AM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: kiriath_jearim

My first check, on my first checking account, 33 years ago, was for a Winchester Model 1200 12 guage. Still have both the gun AND the cancelled check.

This news sucks.


3 posted on 01/18/2006 9:24:26 AM PST by digger48
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To: kiriath_jearim

WAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh.....


4 posted on 01/18/2006 9:24:55 AM PST by dsc
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To: kiriath_jearim

I've got mine...and they can pry it out of my cold dead hands! There is even a picture of it on my homepage.


5 posted on 01/18/2006 9:25:04 AM PST by colorcountry (Currently not in the process of becoming a God!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Herstal Group - also known as "FN", if memory serves.

As I recall, the unions and political climate in the area, along with low sales of 'retro' Winchesters, are what doomed this plant. All of a sudden, these idiots (unions/pols) realize that they just killed the goose that laid the golden eggs. Ooops!


6 posted on 01/18/2006 9:25:17 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: digger48

make that 35 years ago.

but who's counting?


7 posted on 01/18/2006 9:25:19 AM PST by digger48
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To: kiriath_jearim
Sad.

I think it was Jimmy Stewart with the Winchester--John Wayne had a pistol.

8 posted on 01/18/2006 9:26:53 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: kiriath_jearim

***Olin had no immediate word on its plans for the Winchester name. DeMennato said he hopes the name will be sold along with the plant. ***

Sell the name to Uberti of Italy. They are making the nearest copies of old Winchesters since the 1960's.

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9 posted on 01/18/2006 9:28:01 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: kiriath_jearim
city officials and union leaders

This is just a guess, but wouldn't these be two of the reasons the plant is closing in the first place? Are revenues that bad, or is the cost of doing business what is behind the decision?

10 posted on 01/18/2006 9:28:13 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
U.S. Repeating Arms, which is owned by the Herstal Group, a Belgium company, has said for years that it was on the brink of closing the plant.

FN owns Winchester? Interesting.

11 posted on 01/18/2006 9:29:15 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: SittinYonder
Probably just sales are down, year after year. Ditto hunting licenses and shooting sports in general.
'swhy I always say: TAKE A KID TO A GUN SHOW.
12 posted on 01/18/2006 9:30:08 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: kiriath_jearim
"What are we going to have, Winchester rifles manufactured in China? Is this what we're coming to?"

Will U.S. Policymakers Come to Grips With China Before Its Too Late
The Chinese Army Spy and Condoleezza Rice
China ready to expand military ties with U.S.

13 posted on 01/18/2006 9:31:16 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Spktyr

Move the plant to Tennessee. There is a market for some of FN's products including the FN-FAL and FN-FNC.


14 posted on 01/18/2006 9:31:18 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
This is my daddy's Winchester bear rifle - Model 71 in .348 Win.

Course, they haven't made THOSE in 40 years . . .

15 posted on 01/18/2006 9:31:21 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: kiriath_jearim

DeStefano is a RAT and everything has a cause and an effect. The effect of the anti-Second Amendment RAT agenda has caused this shut down. All DeStefano has to do is look in the mirror when he wonders how this happened. And, I just wonder how cooperative that union was with management. What a shame....


16 posted on 01/18/2006 9:31:48 AM PST by capydick
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Texas would be better. We buy a lot of their products here anyway...


17 posted on 01/18/2006 9:33:54 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mamzelle

Stewart starred in the Anothony Mann classic, "Winchester '73."


18 posted on 01/18/2006 9:43:02 AM PST by karnage
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To: kiriath_jearim
Connecticut has been anti-gun for 40 years and anti-business for 20...is this a surprise?
19 posted on 01/18/2006 9:43:16 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Go to the website and buy one !!! I am looking at the model 94 legacy with the 24 inch barrel- only $474


20 posted on 01/18/2006 9:44:12 AM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help...)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Olin is from MO, so we'll take that Winchester plant too. Just not in StLouis or KC.


21 posted on 01/18/2006 9:48:57 AM PST by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"A lot of marriages were people who met at Winchester."

And there were a lot of marriages arranged at the muzzle of a Winchester, too!

22 posted on 01/18/2006 10:00:47 AM PST by paddles
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To: kiriath_jearim

FN owns Winchester...


23 posted on 01/18/2006 10:01:42 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Good time to buy that 30-30 lever action


24 posted on 01/18/2006 10:03:10 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Ditto hunting licenses and shooting sports in general

Americans no longer enjoy the outdoors. The campers and hikers that once flocked to the mountains in the summer are gone. It's been years since I've seen a pickup with a camper.

Roads and trails have been closed by the forest service. Outdoorsmen are now herded into parks that don't allow firearms. We've moved into an age where people live, work and travel in air conditioned boxes. We've become a nation of girlymen.
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25 posted on 01/18/2006 10:04:40 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Anyone comtemplating a lever gun should realize that the second rennaisance has arrived, with Hornady's pointed tip (but safe for tube mags) LeverEvolution cartridges.

Makes the 30-30 a real long range deer gun.

http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=198


26 posted on 01/18/2006 10:14:20 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: digger48
I got my 1200 on my 24th birthday 29 years ago. It is still my primary wing shooter.
27 posted on 01/18/2006 10:25:35 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: digger48
Sixty years ago I fired my first Winchester Model 12. It belonged to an uncle, and his two sons who had just returned home from world War II got quite a kick out of seeing me shoot that big 12 gauge. Of course, being only eight years old at the time I got quite a kick out of it too.

Memories of hunting ducks around Reelfoot Lake as a boy always include the Model 12, and I own two of them now. That same uncle had an old Winchester Model 97 pump in a twelve gauge. Those early experiences provided lasting joy, and I have hunted all my life. In sixty years of hunting I have owned and shot quite a few guns, a few of them I would call "fine" guns. None of them ever had the appeal for me that the Model 12 did, or does.

One other Winchester that I have in my gun case is a Winchester Model 70 in a .270 cal. That is all the rifle I could ever want, and the only one I have. I have taken deer, bobcat, and turkey with it, and under the right conditions and with the proper load, it would take larger game, even though I don't have much opportunity for that.

So I say thanks to Winchester. I'm sorry to see them go, but the guns they made for me will last another generation or two I am sure.
28 posted on 01/18/2006 10:27:56 AM PST by billhilly
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To: joesnuffy

"Good time to buy that 30-30 lever action"

I have one, but it's a Marlin. Just put a 3x9 scope on it for my 12 year old grandson for next deer season. He can't wait, and neither can I.

The union and gummit officials, after years of screwing gun companies, cry when gun companies close.


29 posted on 01/18/2006 10:33:43 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Sergio

double damn


30 posted on 01/18/2006 10:40:40 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: USS Alaska

Remington seems to be doing OK. Lots of newer and smaller companies too.


31 posted on 01/18/2006 10:43:42 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Beelzebubba
"Makes the 30-30 a real long range deer gun."

More importantly, does it mean we'll see a tube magazine, lever action rifle in .358 Winchester sometime soon?

32 posted on 01/18/2006 10:54:04 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: kiriath_jearim

Maybe the Winchester facility will go the way of the Springfield Armory in Springfield, MA. They made M1s there for years- produced somewhere between a million and a bazillion of them.

Now it's a museum and historic site maintained and staffed by the Park Service.

And it's in a terrific part of town too.

By which I mean it's in a terrible part of town.


33 posted on 01/18/2006 11:10:50 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: Mamzelle

34 posted on 01/18/2006 11:14:27 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: Beelzebubba

Those new polymer tips are such an obvious solution, one of those forehead slapping moments when you see them


35 posted on 01/18/2006 11:15:55 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: Gefreiter

Sorry to hear Winchester going down. The Model 12 pump shotgun is a classic (sorry all you 1200 fans). Ithica (sp?) gone. Now Winchester?

Antigun/antihunting liberals...thanks a bunch!

Maybe we eventually, like Iraq, will buy our guns from Russia (or China).

Smooth move.


36 posted on 01/18/2006 11:21:33 AM PST by OldArmy52
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Those new polymer tips are such an obvious solution, one of those forehead slapping moments when you see them...


As a patent attorney, I can tell you that if it makes you slap your forehead, is probably isn't legally "obvious."

And while rigid polymer tips are old as the hills, the idea of a soft/safe tip is really clever.
37 posted on 01/18/2006 11:32:46 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Are they still going to produce ammo? The winchester white box is the best deal in town.


38 posted on 01/18/2006 11:38:46 AM PST by lwd
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To: OldArmy52

Well to add another firm to your list, consider S&W, also in Springfield, MA.

Sure it's still in business, but it's pissing against the wind having your headquarters in what's become one of the most anti-gun states in the Union.

Maybe to save itself S&W ought to move to someplace friendlier. TX? AZ...?


39 posted on 01/18/2006 11:39:08 AM PST by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: kiriath_jearim
Love my SX2, ducks, however, have a rather negative view of that particular shotgun ;)
40 posted on 01/18/2006 11:42:57 AM PST by conservonator (Pray for those suffering)
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To: conservonator

BUMP!


41 posted on 01/18/2006 11:43:52 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: OKSooner
More importantly, does it mean we'll see a tube magazine, lever action rifle in .358 Winchester sometime soon?


If there is a demand, they will probably produce sharp/soft tip bullets for it.

Right now Hornady offers 30-30, 35 REM, 44 Marlin, 45-70, 450 Marlin.

Given the failure of the 358 Win in the market (now only T/C chambers rifles for this), you probably won't see cartridges offered. However, you could use the 0.357/0.358" 200 gr. Leverevolution Hornady bullet loaded into the 358 Win case (a necked-up 308), to get that extra 500 FPS compared to the 35 Rem cartridge.
42 posted on 01/18/2006 11:45:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba
IMVHO, the .358 Winchester belongs at the top of the list of cartridges that didn't make it commercially. Thanks to the gun mags and writers who preach high velocity and flat shooting cartridges for that - all the other .308 derivatives are enjoying at least a modicum of success.

BTW, the Browning website shows the .358 available in the BLR:

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/category.asp?value=003B

However, I don't want a BLR as it's not tube-fed. I'd prefer a Marlin 336 stainless. Dream on, I suppose.

43 posted on 01/18/2006 11:57:14 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: All

I have always wanted a Winchester. Currently we only have a MkIV Enfield .303 which is a bit much for the woman to handle (she is rather small).

I see that they offer the Model 94 in many different flavors. Anyone willing to school a neophyte in the advantages of the different barrel lengths?(I see 20", 24" and 26" offered - I assume the longer, the more accurate at distance). Also would love to hear recommendations on chamberings. I see pistol rounds being offered for some.

The gun would be mostly used for deer but we do have the occasional coyote messing with our turkeys.

Any guidance appreciated.


44 posted on 01/18/2006 12:07:58 PM PST by Range Rover (Kerry is STILL a Fraud...Rather is the Court Jester)
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To: OKSooner
I'd prefer a Marlin 336 stainless. Dream on, I suppose.

I saw a stainless 35 Rem Marlin at the last gun show. It had the shorter magazine like the 444, 45-70.
I want a 35 Rem, esp. now that the new Hornady ammo is out.

45 posted on 01/18/2006 12:18:39 PM PST by Vinnie
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To: Tijeras_Slim
The best-looking leading man, ever
46 posted on 01/18/2006 12:57:06 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Gefreiter

"Maybe the Winchester facility will go the way of the Springfield Armory in Springfield, MA. They made M1s there for years- produced somewhere between a million and a bazillion of them. "

****

Springfield Armory in MA was a govt-run arsenal. Winchester has always been a private company.


47 posted on 01/18/2006 1:05:32 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: RaceBannon; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; monafelice; ...

Connecticut ping!

Excerpt:

U.S. Repeating Arms said Tuesday it will close its Winchester firearm factory, threatening the future of a rifle that pioneers toted into the Wild West and John Wayne hoisted onto the big screen.

"It's part of who we are as a nation just like it's part of who we are as a city. It's the gun that won the West," Mayor John DeStefano said. "What are we going to have, Winchester rifles manufactured in China? Is this what we're coming to?"

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

48 posted on 01/18/2006 2:36:25 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: 2banana
"Connecticut has been anti-gun for 40 years and anti-business for 20...is this a surprise?"

At one time more than half the guns in this country came from CT. Colt, Ruger, Marlin, Winchester, Remington and then a bunch of marks from Norwich like Hopkins and Allen and the other names made in that factory supplied the growing firearms needs of this country. As far as the politics of the state, it is very blue but I've had a CT Concealed Carry Permit 10 years longer than the average Texan permit holder has been able to.

FWIW Stetson hats originated in Danbury CT a loooong time ago. We had cowboys covered two ways.

49 posted on 01/18/2006 3:00:16 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: colorcountry
How do we know it's a Winchester, you can't tell by the picture. You could be a Liberal lying to us!! (joking)
50 posted on 01/18/2006 3:20:48 PM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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