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Rightwing Group Offers Students $100 To Spy On Professors
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 1-19-2006 | Dan Glaister

Posted on 01/18/2006 7:53:10 PM PST by blam

Rightwing group offers students $100 to spy on professors

· Republican graduate's site prompts witch-hunt fears
· 31 academics listed as 'worthy of scrutiny'

Dan Glaister in Los Angeles
Thursday January 19, 2006
The Guardian (UK)

It is the sort of invitation any poverty-stricken student would find hard to resist. "Do you have a professor who just can't stop talking about President Bush, about the war in Iraq, about the Republican party, or any other ideological issue that has nothing to do with the class subject matter? If you help ... expose the professor, we'll pay you for your work."

For full notes, a tape recording and a copy of all teaching materials, students at the University of California Los Angeles are being offered $100 (£57) - the tape recorder is provided free of charge - by an alumni group.

Lecture notes without a tape recording net $50, and even non-attendance at the class while providing copies of the teaching materials is worth $10.

But the initiative has prompted concerns that the group, the brainchild of a former leader of the college's Republicans, is a witch-hunt. Several targeted professors have complained, figures associated with the group have distanced themselves from the project and the college is studying whether the sale of notes infringes copyright and contravenes regulations.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 100; academia; academicbias; andrewjones; bruinalumni; group; offers; professors; rightwing; spy; students; tenuredradicals; ucla
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1 posted on 01/18/2006 7:53:12 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Meanwhile the Leftist professors are calling it the New McCarthyism.


2 posted on 01/18/2006 7:54:20 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: blam

Typical of so many Leftwingers these days, the professors and their running dog lackey supporters simply want a cut of the action ~ a payoff so to speak.


3 posted on 01/18/2006 7:55:12 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: blam

NPR highlighted this story in the am.


4 posted on 01/18/2006 7:55:58 PM PST by Drango ( No animals were harmed while producing this post)
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To: blam
I Love This!

does that make me a fascist ???
5 posted on 01/18/2006 7:56:11 PM PST by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's License Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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To: blam

I could have used this in my Archeology course in South Dakota. We had to endure the bemoaning of an ex-hippie who blamed the US for everything bad that has ever happened in Cuba.</p>


6 posted on 01/18/2006 7:56:15 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: blam
It is the sort of invitation any poverty-stricken student would find hard to resist.

This is unintentionally hilarious. The author has been reading too much Dickens.

7 posted on 01/18/2006 7:56:36 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: blam
Sounds like an enterprise worthy of contribution.

What about liberal bosses in the workplace, who view their offices as an opportunity to rant about their opinions on Iraq, and lower productivity by the stress of not being able to say, "you jerk" for fear of losing a paycheck?

8 posted on 01/18/2006 7:56:52 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: blam

Love the tactic. The left has been doing things like this for years. Now it is our turn.


9 posted on 01/18/2006 7:57:20 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: blam

Meanwhile an article out today said enrollment at Christian colleges is skyrocketing!


10 posted on 01/18/2006 7:58:10 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: blam

The underlying problem is tenure.


11 posted on 01/18/2006 7:59:16 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: blam
Several targeted professors have complained, figures associated with the group have distanced themselves from the project and the college is studying whether the sale of notes infringes copyright and contravenes regulations.

Are they this concerned when a leftist professor inspires his students to attack the Bush administration in college papers or encourages them to work on his opponent's campaigns?

12 posted on 01/18/2006 7:59:54 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: blam

All the RAT witches should rrrresign, there will be nothing wwwwitchhunt! Booooo!


13 posted on 01/18/2006 8:01:03 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: Thunder90



Or perhaps another headline may read:

Leftwing UK Reporter Offers Student $100 To Say Rightwing Group Offers Students $100 To Spy On Professors



14 posted on 01/18/2006 8:01:24 PM PST by This Just In ("Those are my principles, if you don't like them, I've got others" - Groucho Marx)
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To: blam

Some start-up tried making a business out of selling lecture notes at UMass once, taken from the previous year's class. It wasn't political though, just a lame effort to make money.

Professors were annoyed, and the few suckers who tried it did horribly from thinking they could buy education instead of studying.


15 posted on 01/18/2006 8:04:31 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: SandRat

At least the kids are finally taking their books home


16 posted on 01/18/2006 8:05:17 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: Drango

Did NPR refer to them as "spies" or as "whistle-blowers"? (Rhetorical question...)


17 posted on 01/18/2006 8:06:02 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: blam

Going to class, recording the lecture & taking notes is 'spying'?


18 posted on 01/18/2006 8:06:27 PM PST by elli1
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To: A CA Guy; FairOpinion
Ping. lol.

The spin in this article is a classic "Dem" "wiretap" best-we-can-do-for-the-liberals kinda spin. It alleges to be taking place in Los Angeles. Thought you'd find it interesting.

19 posted on 01/18/2006 8:08:03 PM PST by Alia
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To: elli1

Not spying per se, but certainly unusual behavior


20 posted on 01/18/2006 8:09:20 PM PST by When do we get liberated? ((God save us from the whining, useless, irrelevent left...))
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To: blam

Some spin. I'm getting whiplash. Students are allowed to tape lectures, but not if it is to provide evidence of inappropriate classroom activities?


21 posted on 01/18/2006 8:09:47 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: blam

I went to UC, and I would have volunteered to do this FOR FREE.


22 posted on 01/18/2006 8:10:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: cmsgop
does that make me a fascist ???

Yeah. But I don't have a problem with that.

23 posted on 01/18/2006 8:10:49 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: blam
Headed over to http://uclaprofs.com

To make a Paypal!

24 posted on 01/18/2006 8:14:01 PM PST by Capn TrVth
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To: blam
How can reporting on a paid employees actions in a public educational venue be equated with spying?

I quess if my child tells me what her elementary school teacher is saying and doing in class, she is also "spying" on her teacher, and must be forbidden from sharing that "privileged" information with me.
LOL!
The only way liberalism survives is through enforced PC silence.
25 posted on 01/18/2006 8:14:05 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: blam

The kids can inform, but there is an issue regarding what is done with class materials.
They can report the bad things said and perhaps even a recording if they are allowed in class.
You can not (I don't think) allow class outlines, materials or tests to be given out for money.

I don't know how these folks are going to handle this, but it is interesting to read.


26 posted on 01/18/2006 8:23:32 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Alia

See #26.


27 posted on 01/18/2006 8:24:16 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sarasmom
The only way liberalism survives is through enforced PC silence.

Bears repeating.... put that on a bumper sticker; and I'll buy 2.

28 posted on 01/18/2006 8:25:25 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: A CA Guy
You can not (I don't think) allow class outlines, materials or tests to be given out for money.

If you are taking a class on Physics, and you have spent $x,000 to take this course; and the Professor choses to spend your time and your money by giving a monologue on his thoughts on Pres. GW Bush; I'd say that a tape of his lecture along side a syllabus of the course would be proof that the professor owes each and every one of his students a full semester's refund.

Why? Missing just one class can mean postponing graduation a semester. Based upon the average cost of what a graduating senior would make; this amounts to several tens of thousands of dollars. Some would call this fraud.

Now add to the fact that if you complain, you can be punished by 'failing' the class, at the Professor's whim. I'd say adding some personal responsibility to the teacher is fair and just; after all the student's grades and career are based upon their personal responsibility.

29 posted on 01/18/2006 8:30:08 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Hodar

My daughter was in a French class last semester and the instructor would constantly urge the students to attend various political rallies and protests (all anti war anti Bush of course). The instructor was nice to her, but she was afraid to give her conservative opinion because in the past when she has done this her grade went from high B to low C... A lot of grading is up to the whim of the instructor and it is hard to protest a low grade on a project or essay.
It's not just PC to remain quiet... there is a very subtle threat to your future and livelihood.


30 posted on 01/18/2006 8:33:44 PM PST by antceecee
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To: When do we get liberated?
...but certainly unusual behavior.

'Specially for 8 a.m. classes. :)

31 posted on 01/18/2006 8:33:48 PM PST by elli1
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To: blam

HAHA! This would be funny!


32 posted on 01/18/2006 8:36:31 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: antceecee

Kinda funny in a sick sort of way.

When Liberals are in control, they threaten our careers, our grades and demand complete obedience.

But, if a Conservative simply says that he wants evidence that he's being abused; suddenly it's a 'Witch-hunt'.


33 posted on 01/18/2006 8:37:30 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: blam

Since when is an accurate report of the truth of what government-employed teachers do in the classroom "spying"?


34 posted on 01/18/2006 8:43:18 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Hodar

That is exactly what is happening here. I applaud the young people who are battling the liberal-nazis. I told my daughter that it is up to her generation to turn this around. I think there are a lot of young 20-somethings out there that are conservative and sick of this crap. The tide will turn.


35 posted on 01/18/2006 8:44:11 PM PST by antceecee
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To: A CA Guy
You can not (I don't think) allow class outlines, materials or tests to be given out for money.

And why not? It happens all the time!! Students sell books, materials.

The tests are another story. That's where the trouble lies.

36 posted on 01/18/2006 8:57:23 PM PST by Alia
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To: facedown
It is the sort of invitation any poverty-stricken student would find hard to resist.

This is unintentionally hilarious. The author has been reading too much Dickens.





Well, when I think back to my days at U of Chicago in the mid '80's, I do remember being so broke that I was willing to spend an hour in the psych and/or marketing labs being tested on right/brain left/brain stuff and polo shirt preferences. Hey, I needed the $6.

I CERTAINLY would have jumped at the chance to "narc" out lib profs. (But only after grades were issued, please.)
37 posted on 01/18/2006 9:07:40 PM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: blam
In the corporate world, we have a word for this.

T R A N S P A R E N C Y

38 posted on 01/18/2006 9:11:08 PM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: blam
In the corporate world, we have a word for this.

T R A N S P A R E N C Y

39 posted on 01/18/2006 9:11:08 PM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: blam
Rightwing group offers students $100 to spy on professors

It's not spying....it's whistleblowing :o).

40 posted on 01/18/2006 9:11:29 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

About time the tables turn.


41 posted on 01/18/2006 9:23:38 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: blam

Great way for my son to help pay his college tuition....


42 posted on 01/18/2006 9:25:27 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: blam

I hope they don't get nabbed with cheating. All the professor has to say is that was going to be part of the test. This truly does not seem very smart especially if they are sneaking around. I would think twice about it. Good thought, but could backfire.


43 posted on 01/18/2006 9:28:43 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Hodar
I think copies of the actual lecture belong to the school and are pretty much the same as copyrighted.

Sure, no problem if 20 in a class verify during a lecture on Indians of California and he blames Bush for all their problems today, sure report it.
44 posted on 01/18/2006 9:37:57 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: blam

Darn right it's a witch hunt. Rats on brooms beware.


45 posted on 01/18/2006 9:38:58 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Ask the Lord to make Himself real to you and receive His love today, while you still can!)
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To: Alia

Has to do with distributing actual lectures for money, though tests would be far worse.

I don't think there is an issue if during a lecture 25 students report the teacher started to throw darts at a picture of President Bush and then urinated on our flag.

They can still report what needs to be I think.


46 posted on 01/18/2006 9:39:58 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Rabid Dog

If the professors don't like the UC Education Code forbiding indoctrination, then they shouldn't be teaching there.


47 posted on 01/18/2006 10:00:04 PM PST by Snapping Turtle (Slow down and get a grip!)
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To: elli1

Further evidence that libs will re-define words to
suit their purposes. In this case the word is "spy".
Another example is the word "lie". President Bush ini-
tiates action against Iraq, in part, due to faulty
but widely believed intel information and he is guilty
of lying to the public in the eyes of liberals. I'd like
to have a quarter for every time I've heard a moonbat
blabber, "Bush LIED about WMDs!".


48 posted on 01/18/2006 10:27:12 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: blam

The libs need some cheese with that whine.

I put up with 4 years of attempted indoctrination while I was in law school.....hehehehe.....didn't work!


49 posted on 01/18/2006 10:30:11 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: blam

Just the thought of being monitored will have a useful effect. Those professors who are the least moonbatty will think twice, and rein it in to some degree. The more hardbitten cases will ramp it up to such a paranoid level that they'll appear to have gone completely nuts. Either way, it's effective.


50 posted on 01/18/2006 10:33:32 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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