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Japan's Konica Minolta to stop making all cameras
Yahoo News & AFP ^ | January 19, 2006

Posted on 01/19/2006 12:45:19 AM PST by HAL9000

TOKYO : Japan's Konica Minolta, one of the world's leading photographic equipment manufacturers, said on Thursday it would stop making all cameras because the market had become too competitive.

The company plans to slash 3,700 jobs or about 11 percent of its global workforce by 2007 under a restructuring package that will also see part of its business making high-end digital cameras sold off to Sony.

Konica Minolta will also gradually stop making camera film by 2007 to focus on its more profitable optics and medical imaging activities.

"In today's era of digital cameras... it became difficult to timely provide competitive products even with our top optical, mechanical and electronics technologies," the company said in a statement on its website.

"For colour film and colour paper, while considering our customer needs, we will step-by-step reduce product line-up and cease our film production and colour paper by the end of fiscal year ending March 31, 2007," it added.

The announcement comes less than a week after Nikon unveiled plans to stop selling most of its film cameras to focus on hot-selling digital models.

Konica Minolta struggled to adapt to the rapidly changing shift to digital photography and away from traditional film.

It slumped into the red in the first half of the current financial year and forecast a large full-year loss due to falling sales of conventional photo film and intense competition in digital cameras.

The group, formed through the 2003 merger of Konika and Minolta, made a net loss of 3.48 billion yen (US$30.2 million) in the first half to September, reversing a net profit of 8.20 billion yen a year earlier.

In November it forecast a net loss of 47 billion yen for the full year



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Japan
KEYWORDS: cameras; digital; japan; konica; konicaminolta; minolta; nikon; photography

1 posted on 01/19/2006 12:45:23 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
WHAT ????

I have two Minoltas, a 35mm and a digital, I am very sorry to see them go, they make a good product.
2 posted on 01/19/2006 12:48:07 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-Rush Limbaugh.)
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To: HAL9000

That's a shame. I have a Dimage Z5, and it's a terrific camera.


3 posted on 01/19/2006 12:49:07 AM PST by Riley ("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
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To: HAL9000

Digita media is not yet secure. If you want your images to last...STAY WITH FILM!!!


4 posted on 01/19/2006 12:53:22 AM PST by paulat
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Minolta to stop makings cameras. Whamo-O has been sold to a Hong Kong distributor. Whats happening to the world as I've known it?


5 posted on 01/19/2006 12:57:06 AM PST by lunarbicep (There is something about a closet that makes a skeleton terribly restless.)
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To: lunarbicep
Whats happening to the world as I've known it?

You ain't seen nutin yet! Stand by for the demise of two of the big-3, GM and FORD are in serious financial trouble. FORD may shut down up to 10 plants, and GM is much worse than FORD, financially.

Now back to the Konica-Minolta thread........

6 posted on 01/19/2006 1:03:10 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-Rush Limbaugh.)
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To: HAL9000

My Minolta Dimage A1 died about 4 months past it's one year warranty. The flash stopped working some time ago. I took very good care of it. I'm not happy.


7 posted on 01/19/2006 1:04:42 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Toyota is destroying them.

And rightfully so.


8 posted on 01/19/2006 1:05:29 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: HAL9000

Sad. Other producers of film cameras suffer from the same problems. Leica in Germany also has its problems i.e.. I own two Leicas and they make terrific photographs that can't be compared with those low-pixeled snapshots of some digital cameras. Furthermore i feel a kind of "erotic" to make traditional pictures if I focus and adjust all by myself.


9 posted on 01/19/2006 1:05:42 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

"Furthermore i feel a kind of "erotic" to make traditional pictures if I focus and adjust all by myself."

Don't you mean neurotic? ;-)


10 posted on 01/19/2006 1:07:05 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

" Stand by for the demise of two of the big-3, "

Good riddance ... Dirty unions and corporate greed mixed with a multitude of lousy designs and so-so workmanship over the past 20 years or so ... is bound to do you in eventually ...


11 posted on 01/19/2006 1:20:06 AM PST by sushiman
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To: DB
Maybe you see it as neurotic, but to me it is really somehow erotic to caress my good old camera. It is just my way to be a pervert. :-)

BTW - It is a Leica M2. I inherited it by my father.

The other one is a very old Leica II. It looks a littlebit like this one (out of Wikipedia - a Leica I) but is in much better condition:


12 posted on 01/19/2006 1:22:37 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: HAL9000

Only from the mind of Minolta.

How many years ago was that? I must have been like 8.


13 posted on 01/19/2006 2:27:33 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: All

I have a Minolta X700 that I bought back in the 80's that is one of the best camera's I've ever owned. I don't use it much since digital came out so it stays locked up tight in it's case. I've had several people try to buy it lately and I've seen a few on Ebay selling for the same thing or more than I paid for it new. I think it's a keeper.


14 posted on 01/19/2006 2:32:37 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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Oh well....I've always been an Olympus fan.


15 posted on 01/19/2006 2:36:16 AM PST by Pro-Bush (We protect Korea's border better than our own!)
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ha. what happened to the good old days on FR when japanese auto makers would be mentioned, then followed with posts about "my chevy/ford/dogdge will flatten your jap car without even slowing down"

then we entered the denial era...any mention of US cars being low on reliability and resale were countered with "my chevy/ford/dodge has 175K miles on it and all I ever did was change the oil"

/drives an acura


16 posted on 01/19/2006 2:40:11 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Someday a real rain will come and wipe this scum off the streets.)
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To: KneelBeforeZod; All
I think that Ford does make a fine product.

My Mustang does have over 175k miles, and all I've done to it other than change oil, is put in a new clutch.

It's WAY better built than my other car and that is really saying something non PC.

The unions have destroyed American Steel and heavy industries, and have the big three teetering on the brink.

Bankrupty to end the union strangleholds would be a positive thing for the automakers and America in general.

17 posted on 01/19/2006 2:55:45 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

ford does have some cars that are great. the escort and now the focus seem to last forever.

too bad we cant be as proud of US made products as we could decades ago.

japanese electronics used to be a joke. now they are some of the best.


18 posted on 01/19/2006 3:00:28 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Someday a real rain will come and wipe this scum off the streets.)
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To: paulat
I share your allegence to film. Here is a rundown of what I find in the digital world:

Digital Cameras with interchangeable lenses (the only way to go) are off the scale in price. Those with the latest CMOS sensors, like the Canon EOS 10D's 6.3 megapixel, are around $1,300. This camera's 6.3 megapixel sensor will deliver more detail than Kodak ISO 200 speed 35mm film. However, if you want more detail than Fujichrome ISO 50 speed film you will have to buy the Canon EOS 5D with its CMOS 12.8 megapixel sensor, which are about $ 3,000.

To store that 12.8 megapixel photo in a 124 megabite TIF file (gives the best accuracy) you will need 124 megabites of storage space. On a CD having 700 megabites of storeage, you could store about 5 photos. With a DVD storage, which hold 4.7 Gigabites, you would have seven times more capacity and be able to store 35 TIF files. You will need a DVD burner in your computer. Putting such large files on DVD takes lots of time.

Most of your photos could be printed on a ink jet printer using photographic grade printer paper. There are photo services who will enlarge that digital photo to large photographs (such as 16" x 20" I found for $35). I think that the photo grade paper is a bit pricey.

Finally, the sensor in your camera can collect dust and greatly impact the image quality of your photos. Cleaning that sensor yourself could cause irrepairable damage. A damaged sensor would about equal the cost of the camera to replace.

This is just for getting the equivalent resolution of 35mm format film. What kind of TIF files would be equivalent to 2-1/4 x 2-1/4 film? Hasselblad for instance can use the same camera for film as well as digital. Its Ixpress V96C, 16 Megapixel, Digital Camera Back is compatible with the Hasselblad 500 Series Cameras. Cost? $10.000.
19 posted on 01/19/2006 3:06:13 AM PST by jonrick46
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Dang!

Even though I have $7000 invested in Nikon digital camera equipment, most of my best photos come out of my older Minolta 5MP digital.... and I was thinkng of buying a newer Minolta.....

Well, Nikon announced that they are cutting all but 2 or 3 of their film cameras.... I guess that the camera business is going to be really 'interesting' the next few years.


20 posted on 01/19/2006 3:48:30 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: bill1952
I think that Ford does make a fine product.

Ford makes some fine products. Can't say much for their cars, but their trucks ROCK! I have a '97 F-250 Crew cab diesel with 260K on it and it still runs like a top. Never done anything but routine maintenence. It'll pull or haul anything and gets 24 mpg. By contrast my last truck was a Toyota and although it was also very good about not leaving me stranded, by the time it had 260K on it, it was a rust bucket. Funny, I didn't know the Budweiser cans my Toyota was made from would rust....

21 posted on 01/19/2006 5:26:51 AM PST by Thermalseeker
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To: DB

>...Toyota is destroying them.

And rightfully so....<



Certainly glad to know which side you would have rooted for at Pearl Harbor...<


22 posted on 01/19/2006 5:51:07 AM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: HAL9000
C'mon. You know Willie is supposed to post these.
23 posted on 01/19/2006 5:52:43 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: investigateworld

Toyota launched a sneak-attack on GM? When?


24 posted on 01/19/2006 5:54:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DB
My Minolta Dimage A1 died about 4 months past it's one year warranty.

My Minolta SRT-102 is going on 40 years old, and it's still the best camera in the house. I'll be sorry to see them leave the market.

25 posted on 01/19/2006 5:54:28 AM PST by r9etb
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To: jonrick46
You make some good points

I recently bought a Konica Minolta elite 5400II scanner for negatives because I had about 5,000 negatives.

I'm currently scanning in some 110 negatives (taken with a Minolta 110SLR btw) from 1976. I'm using less than the highest resolution and I'm storing the digital files in jpg format. File size is on the order of 1.8meg after compression (22 meg before).

I've printed some 8 1/2 by 11's and they look great. This is in spite of the fact that some of the film is faded and 100's weren't meant for anything other than snapshots originally.

I doubt any of my digital files from my Canon digital rebel will be even readible in 30 years (including these I'm making now!) because the tech is changing so fast. But........film will still be film.cb

26 posted on 01/19/2006 5:57:03 AM PST by cb
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To: paulat
Digita media is not yet secure. If you want your images to last...STAY WITH FILM!!!

If you can make monochrome color separation negatives of your photographs and store the film in a temperature and humidity controlled environment, then stay with film.

I just finished scanning my 40 years worth of color slides and the older they were the worst condition they were. The ones that I recoverd should be good for a really long time on CD.

27 posted on 01/19/2006 6:04:31 AM PST by CPOSharky (Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Like demoncrats.)
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To: jonrick46; paulat
I share your allegence to film...

I have a Canon 35mm EOS Elan7 with a lot of lenses. I bought a digital Rebel (8mp) and a good hp printer. I use the 35 sparingly, these days. My lenses work on both systems, though, which is why I bought the DRebel.

I started taking pics in high school, on the yearbook staff. In the navy, though an FT, I took a lot of the official pics for the ship and cruise books. I did the darkroom stff onboard our tin can.

I taught in a local photog class for a while, and we played with pin hole cameras. The class did some interesting things with them.

Digital pics can be sharp, easily manipulated, and easy to reproduce, but they pale in comparison to what you can do with a little bit of silver salts...


28 posted on 01/19/2006 6:11:59 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Ford and GM should get out of the car business, and invest all of their resources into their truck lines. They should both make one, high end, limited production, muscle car, and the rest should all be trucks.

Would this mean downsizing? Sure! Would this mean better profitablitly? Probably! It would most certainly mean recapturing the full sized truck market with superior products.

29 posted on 01/19/2006 6:13:09 AM PST by NeonKnight (Republican Death Machine)
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To: cb
... I doubt any of my digital files from my Canon digital rebel will be even readible in 30 years

I own a Sony 8mm vcr, a panasonic videodisc player, Beta, VHS, SVHS, MiniDV, and card readers for any type (currently) flash media. I bought them because I use the technology, and wanted to keep it useful. I will probably own a museum full, by the time I am 70 (58 now), but I even have my 1984 FatMac, as well as 14 other Mac renditions. I figure that since they still work, they still have value to me (though most sit idle on shelves, stored in cardboard)!

Of course, we also own 9 cars...

30 posted on 01/19/2006 6:18:43 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: HAL9000

Damn!! I been using Minoltas for more than 40 years and have a whole bunch of great lenses. I've been waiting for them to come out with a digital SLR so that I could use my lenses on it.


31 posted on 01/19/2006 6:24:44 AM PST by pjd
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To: Pro-Bush
I've always been an Olympus fan.

They gave up on film a long time ago. Nikon just a few days ago.

32 posted on 01/19/2006 6:26:23 AM PST by f zero
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To: Thermalseeker
These budweiser cans never rust! 8^)


33 posted on 01/19/2006 6:58:58 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Las Vegas Dave

How sad! I bought the Dimage Z1 as soon as it was released. I have absolutely loved it.


34 posted on 01/19/2006 7:01:47 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: lunarbicep
Minolta to stop makings cameras. Whamo-O has been sold to a Hong Kong distributor. Whats happening to the world as I've known it?

Don't forget all the cool stuff we used to get from Ronco! I miss my Mr. Microphone ... lol.

35 posted on 01/19/2006 7:08:49 AM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: CPOSharky

"The ones that I recoverd should be good for a really long time on CD."

Maybe, maybe not.

CD life is about 10 years from what I have read.

There are some long-life CDs available which are projected to last about 10 times longer but they are more expensive.


36 posted on 01/19/2006 7:19:16 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII
CD life is about 10 years from what I have read.

True. But every few years take a few minutes to burn a new copy. Digital copies are exact copies. No data lost.

I have 2300 slides on one CD. It took aboyt five minutes to burn it.

37 posted on 01/19/2006 8:08:14 AM PST by CPOSharky (Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Like demoncrats.)
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To: investigateworld

Make crap and die. Not that complicated really.


38 posted on 01/19/2006 12:26:29 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: webstersII

Supposedly burned DVD's have a much longer shelf life than CD's.


39 posted on 01/19/2006 12:29:29 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: NoCmpromiz

ping


40 posted on 01/19/2006 12:37:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: webstersII

I read a news article the other day about an IBM study that concluded cheap CD-Rs last about two years and top notch CD-Rs last five years. Those are averages, BTW.

Here's the article:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/01/10/73755_HNcdlifespan_1.html


41 posted on 01/19/2006 12:39:59 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: HAL9000; All
Is there a photography ping list? Anyone know?

(NO I am NOT volunteering)
42 posted on 01/19/2006 12:46:44 PM PST by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: DB; Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy
Say Toddster, should the US auto manufactures follow the lead of the US Banks and Credit Card Companies and whine to Congress?
Heck just spread a little cash around, we all know the drill!
43 posted on 01/19/2006 7:02:12 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: DB; Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy
Say Toddster, should the US auto manufactures follow the lead of the US Banks and Credit Card Companies and whine to Congress?
Heck just spread a little cash around, we all know the drill!
44 posted on 01/19/2006 7:02:30 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: DB; Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy
Say Toddster, should the US auto manufactures follow the lead of the US banks and credit card companies and whine to Congress.
Just spread a little cash around, we all know the drill!
45 posted on 01/19/2006 7:05:20 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: DB; Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy
Say Toddster, should the US auto manufactures follow the lead of of the banks and credit card companies and whine to Congress?
46 posted on 01/19/2006 7:08:58 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: investigateworld
Sorry 'bout that, when I posted the first time, screen came back "error occurred"?
47 posted on 01/19/2006 7:17:12 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: cb
I have Ektachrome that I processed in 1964 that brought tears to my graduating class of '64 reunion in 2004. Ektachrome has dyes that will last longer than the obsolescence life of your DVD storage system. Negative scanners can take a little time--15 minutes is typical--but once you get them on DVD storage, you have entered the magic of the digital world. You have bypassed the flaws of color chemistry associated with photographic print. Inherent in the photography negative is a great dynamic range. Now you can actually exceed the dynamic range of photographic paper: you can capture all the shadow detail and pull in the detail of the highlights. You can take advantage of the full dynamic range of negative film--something that Ansel Adams would spend hours trying to compress the range of a negative into one print. With your 48 bit scanner, that is achievable. (I like the The Minolta(Konica) DiMage Scan Multi Pro Film Scanner for my 120 negatives). Now getting the best color balance is a snap as well as are other corrections with photo shop. This is something you used to pay a custom photo lab premium money to do in past years.

I hope Minolta-Konica concentrates on their scanner technology, to perfect what I see as the best way to go in both worlds.
48 posted on 01/19/2006 10:39:29 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: paulat

One problem. Film is irreplacable. If the original negative is lost, the image is lost forever. Also, not all film is created equal. Kodachrome will last, most older color films will not. Also, poor processing and washing will leave even quality film with a dramatically shortened lifespan.

With digital, you can make as many originals as you care to.

You can store your originals on CDs, DVDs, hard disks, online storage and keep originals off site so if you home burns, your images are not destroyed with the house.

Certainly archiving is an ongoing process, but I believe that digital has many advantages over film.


49 posted on 01/19/2006 10:49:49 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole
Certainly archiving is an ongoing process, but I believe that digital has many advantages over film.

Even the Library of Congress has not made the move to digital...they suspect the life of DVDs, etc.

50 posted on 01/19/2006 10:55:57 PM PST by paulat
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