Posted on 01/20/2006 12:37:32 PM PST by Alouette
Yeah, I didn't mean to make it sound like he was some sort of white sheep. He went to the US after he failed to get the riches he wanted out of his uncle.
Chamberlain? Some heavy water irony there...
Interesting link. I don't think Hitler's grand nephews should rule out having children though. I'm sure there's a lot of shame being related to Hitler, but I don't think life is not worth it just because you are.
There is a well worn bromide that the Lord works in mysterious ways. I think St. Paul may be an example of that.
In the US we like to think the sins of the father aren't heirlooms. Leon Uris thought the guilt in Germany for the holocaust was borne by those least responsible, that it was guilt they assumed voluntarily, that they felt it passed to succeeding generations and that it could not be purged. There seems to be a faithlessness in such a viewpoint. Perhaps such as Matias Goering are purgers.
True. After becomeing an American, he lived a normal, productive life by all accounts.
Oh, I don't know if I would have made their decision, either.
But it's their's to make. (And they are probably pretty "up there" in years, anyway, so it's largely moot.)
He couldn't be, I don't think; Goering only had one child, a daughter, Edda. Presumably this person would have a different last name. I think Edda is still alive; she certainly could be, as she was born in 1938.
Hermann Göring doesn't have a grave. He was cremated and his ashes thrown in the river Isar, to deprive twisted followers of a shrine. Same was done with the other HVTs of the era.
In those days, we still had the confidence to deal with enemies.
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Is Goering a Jewish line? If so, I would not be shocked. He was from Bavaria IIRC. In the Roman Catholic portions of the German speaking world, there was a time when a number of quasi noble Jews converted for reasons of rights (or lack thereof).
Eichmann was cremated and his ashes dumped into the Mediterranean, way out at sea.
In another strange twist of fate, the last surviving descendant of Abraham Lincoln lived in Germany. I think he passed away about 30 years ago.
Actually, Hitler's name wasn't even Hitler! He changed it from Schickelgruber or something similar to that I think. To cover up the Jewish grandfather thing.
That's an interesting theory that certainly conflicts with, well, everything, known.
Cool. I'll look into it. I didn't mean to attempt to high jack your thread, btw.
It's not a theory, as the term is understood, it is 100% disproven BS.
Adding to the oddities:
1. The nephew was injured during the war.
2. His Navy recruiter's name was "Hess"
3. The middle name of one of the FOUR sons (one died in 1989 in a car wreck) is ADOLF. (Apparently, it is a family name, from a good man, that pre-dated the bad uncle.)
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/01/20/whit20.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/01/20/ixworld.html
"I understood they needed financial assistance. Ever since then I have been looking for Swiss groups who will help them," he says.
Wow. Even long lost money will be making aliyah.
Well, it wouldn't take much to be the white sheep of that family...
Contrast that with his half-brother Otto Hitler (I think that was his name), who insisted on going to the Eastern Front despite uncle Adolf's misgivings. He asked for no favors, was in the front lines, was captured by the Russians and disappeared. After the war it turned out that he had been executed several months after his capture. Stalin was not a forgiving fellow.
Wm Patrick and his mother were visiting the US when the war broke out and they never went back to England.
He was a really smarmy-looking oily fellow. After protesting how he hated his uncle, he changed his name to the name of the 19th century British racist Stewart Chamberlain who had been one of Adolf Hitler's inspirations. Bizarre. Screwed up family.
Some have suggested that the reason he did this is because he was Jewish under Nazi race laws. The godfather of both Goering brothers was Baron Hermann von Epenstein. As the his name suggests, von Epstien was a Catholic of Jewish descent; his father having converted before being granted peerage and estates. It was widely rumored that Epenstein began an affair with Goering's mother begining about a year before Albert's birth.
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