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Australian In Bosnia Pyramid Riddle
The Age ^ | 1-20-2006

Posted on 01/20/2006 3:11:01 PM PST by blam

Australian in Bosnia pyramid riddle

January 20, 2006 - 7:39AM

Australian archaeologist Royce Richards is among a team preparing to look for the truth behind a theory that Bosnia-Herzegovina has an ancient pyramid.

Archaeologists from Australia, Scotland, Ireland, Austria, and Slovenia will begin excavation work in April on the Visocica hill, 32 kilometres north-west of Sarajevo.

The hill is quite symmetrical, and the theory that it was once a pyramid is supported by preliminary investigations.

If true, it would rewrite world history, putting Europe alongside South America and of course Egypt as homes of ancient pyramids.

Bosnian Semir Osmanagic put forward his theory last year that a 100 metre geometrically-shaped hill with evenly shaped sides and corners that point north, south, east and west is an ancient man-made edifice.

Osmanagic, who has spent 15 years studying the pyramids of the Americas is convinced the hill is a genuine man-made pyramid from an ancient civilization.

His preliminary excavations shows what he believes is evidence that the earth has been shaped to form a pyramid and covered in prehistoric concrete and stone blocks.

"We have already dug out stone blocks which I believe are covering the pyramid," Osmanagic said.

"We found a paved entrance plateau and discovered underground tunnels.

"You don't have to be an expert to realise what this is."

Osmanagic's assertions have been supported by experts studying aerial and satellite images.

Theorists believe the Illyrian people who inhabited the Balkan region before the conquering Slavic tribes overran them about 1,400 years ago had the sophistication to shape a hill into a pyramid.

Excavation work to test Osmanagic's theory will begin on April 14 in the Visoko region and is expected to continue until October and the rugged mountainous area has become an archaeological park.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australian; bosnia; godsgravesglyphs; osmanagich; pyramid; riddle

1 posted on 01/20/2006 3:11:04 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Let me know if they find a Stargate too.


2 posted on 01/20/2006 3:14:44 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

A Pyramid In Europe?


3 posted on 01/20/2006 3:15:22 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

4 posted on 01/20/2006 3:17:27 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Sucker's a big 'un.


5 posted on 01/20/2006 3:18:30 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: blam

6 posted on 01/20/2006 3:18:40 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Pretty interesting stuff. Any indications how old they think it is if in fact it is really a man-made pyramid?


7 posted on 01/20/2006 3:20:30 PM PST by sangrila
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To: blam

alien artefact ping (*now* we know why NATO attacked Serbia - to keep the Russians from getting their hands on the pyramid!)


8 posted on 01/20/2006 3:20:43 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: blam

Definitely man made/shaped.
Wonder why, exactly when, and if any other such constructs exist.


9 posted on 01/20/2006 3:25:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Tagline subverted for nefarious plans of nefariousness.)
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To: blam
Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders

From Publishers Weekly

"The great pyramids of Egypt provide a wonderful glimpse of the artistry, skill and imagination of the ancient world. But pyramids can be found in India, China, Peru, Bolivia, Mexico and Ireland.
In this provocative book, geologist Schoch (noted for his work in redating the Sphinx, which was recounted in his Voices of the Rocks) wonders how so many diverse cultures built such similar structures with similar purposes. Using geological, linguistic and geographical evidence, he contends that a protocivilization of pyramid-building peoples was driven out of its homeland, the Sundaland, which geologists believe connected Southeast Asia with Indonesia, by a rise in sea level caused by comet activity between 6000 and 4000 B.C. Fleeing their homeland, these peoples took their knowledge of pyramid building with them into Sumeria, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China and Peru.

Schoch hypothesizes that the pyramids were built to reach into the skies and to penetrate the mystery of the heavens, source of catastrophe. Schoch also asserts that the pyramids point to unity and symbolize the deep concerns shared by all humans. Schoch builds his engrossing case on geological details of the pyramid sites he has examined around the world.
In the end, however, even he admits his evidence of a Sundaland protocivilization is speculative.
As controversial as this book is bound to be, Schoch's evocation of the pyramids forcefully reminds us of their enduring power as monuments to the spirit of human creativity. 16 pages of color photos not seen by PW. Copyright 2003 Reed Business Information, Inc.

About the Author

Robert M. Schoch, a full-time faculty member at the College of General Studies at Boston University since 1984, earned his Ph.D. in geology and geophysics at Yale University. Dr. Schoch has been quoted extensively in the media for his work on the Sphinx, and he was featured on the Emmy-winning documentary The Mystery of the Sphinx, hosted by Charlton Heston.

10 posted on 01/20/2006 3:26:20 PM PST by blam
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To: sangrila
"Any indications how old they think it is if in fact it is really a man-made pyramid?"

No. Way into the BC's, I'd guess.

11 posted on 01/20/2006 3:27:51 PM PST by blam
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To: peyton randolph

A buried Ha'tak, perhaps?


12 posted on 01/20/2006 3:28:20 PM PST by Redcloak ("Shiny... Let's be bad guys.")
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To: blam

ping


13 posted on 01/20/2006 3:29:29 PM PST by JOAT
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To: sangrila
Any indications how old they think it is if in fact it is really a man-made pyramid?

Helps to read the article.

Theorists believe the Illyrian people who inhabited the Balkan region before the conquering Slavic tribes overran them about 1,400 years ago had the sophistication to shape a hill into a pyramid.

If the estimated date is correct, that would mean it was built around 600 AD. That would make it very young in comparison to the Egyptian pyramids, and quite possibly an attempt to copy them.

14 posted on 01/20/2006 3:32:18 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: blam
Im surprised every continent on earth doesnt have pyramids. Put some stones on the ground and then put fewer stones on tone of those stones and so on and so on. Pretty simple. A pyramid is a glorified pile.
15 posted on 01/20/2006 3:34:59 PM PST by mthom
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To: blam

The only problem with theories such as the one put forward by Robert M. Schoch, is that the various pyramids and pyramidal structures around the world were built at widely differing times. The ones in the Americas and Southeast Asia are very recent compared to the ones in Egypt.


16 posted on 01/20/2006 3:35:57 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Wolfstar

"Helps to read the article.


Theorists believe the Illyrian people who inhabited the Balkan region before the conquering Slavic tribes overran them about 1,400 years ago had the sophistication to shape a hill into a pyramid."

I did read the article. The fact that the people who could have possibly built something like this left 1,400 years ago only tells me that it would be at least 1,400 years old. I am no expert on the Illyrian's so I don't know how long they occupied this area. I thought the poster may have more info on the subject since he is obviously interested in this subject.


17 posted on 01/20/2006 3:37:43 PM PST by sangrila
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To: sangrila
I am no expert on the Illyrian's so I don't know how long they occupied this area.

You have a point. BTW, neither am I. I never heard of the Illyrians until this article.

18 posted on 01/20/2006 3:41:44 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mthom

You know not of what you speak. The great pyramid in Egypt is an engineering marvel which we cannot duplicate to this day. The precision is incredible.

All you have to do is look at a few others they created to see how hard it is to build. The others are nothing more than a pile of rubble.


19 posted on 01/20/2006 3:41:44 PM PST by statered
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To: mthom

"Im surprised every continent on earth doesnt have pyramids. Put some stones on the ground and then put fewer stones on tone of those stones and so on and so on. Pretty simple. A pyramid is a glorified pile."


You are quite the intellectual. The Great Pyramid at Giza was the world's tallest building for thousands of years until the Eiffle Tower was built. And archaeologist still are not exactly sure how the Egyptian manged to build their Pyramid with the limited resources available to them.


20 posted on 01/20/2006 3:43:43 PM PST by sangrila
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To: blam

Do you have latitude and longitude info for Google Earth viewing?


21 posted on 01/20/2006 3:45:50 PM PST by poindexters brother
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To: Wolfstar

"I never heard of the Illyrians until this article"

Neither had I.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians

Here is the Wikipedia link. Not too much info, but I learned something.


22 posted on 01/20/2006 3:46:32 PM PST by sangrila
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To: statered
That was tongue in cheek, at least part of it. Yes the Great Pyramid is an engineering marvel though I disagree greatly that its beyond modern man. My real point is that Im surprised that all early groups of men didnt build pyramids of some type. The pyramid, the engineering difficulties of large ones aside, is an incredibly simple thing and one even children come to quickly when playing with blocks.
23 posted on 01/20/2006 3:52:42 PM PST by mthom
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To: Wolfstar
"The ones in the Americas and Southeast Asia are very recent compared to the ones in Egypt."

I believe the pyramids at Caral, in Peru, have been recently dated older that the Egyptian pyramids.

The largest pyramid in the world is in (I believe) Mexico.

Seems that the second oldest pyramid is the Hellinkon in Greece dated to , 2720BC.

24 posted on 01/20/2006 4:05:31 PM PST by blam
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To: mthom
"Im surprised every continent on earth doesnt have pyramids. Put some stones on the ground and then put fewer stones on tone of those stones and so on and so on. Pretty simple. A pyramid is a glorified pile."

There are pyramids on all (habitable)continents except Australia.

Mexico has more pyramids than all the rest of the world combined. Greece has 16.

25 posted on 01/20/2006 4:10:57 PM PST by blam
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To: sangrila

Archaeologists are actually very sure how they managed to build it. Blocks were taken from quarries in Aswan, floated down the Nile, rolled on logs to the site, pulled up earthen ramps and put in place. The techniques used were developed by trial and error just like any other construction technique. But what do I know Im not an "intellectual" apparently. My guide, the very nice Mr. Rami when I toured the sites at Giza and Memphis and actually entered the Cheffren pyramid, would be very disappointed in me.


26 posted on 01/20/2006 4:12:07 PM PST by mthom
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To: poindexters brother
"Do you have latitude and longitude info for Google Earth viewing?"

No.

27 posted on 01/20/2006 4:12:34 PM PST by blam
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To: Wolfstar
"The only problem with theories such as the one put forward by Robert M. Schoch, is that the various pyramids and pyramidal structures around the world were built at widely differing times. "

Professor Stephen Oppenheimer has similar views

Eden in the East

The Drowned Continent of Southeast Asia
Stephen Oppenheimer

"The biblical flood really did occur - at the end of the last Ice Age. The Flood drowned for ever the huge continetal shelf of Southeast Asia, and caused a population dispersal which fertilized the Neolithic cultures of China, India, Mesopotamia, Egypt and the eastern Mediterranean, thus creating the first civilizations. The Polynesians did not come from China but from the islands of Southeast Asia. The domestication of rice was not in China but in the Malay Peninsula, 9,000 years ago."

28 posted on 01/20/2006 4:19:35 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Professor Stephen Oppenheimer has similar views

Many people have and have had similar views. The idea goes back a long way. The FACT remains that the various pyramids and pyramidal structures around the world were built at widely differing times, often separated by thousands of years.

29 posted on 01/20/2006 4:30:09 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: blam
I believe the pyramids at Caral, in Peru, have been recently dated older that the Egyptian pyramids.

I don't intend to get into a protracted discussion with you about this. However, the link you provided re Caral does not in any way indicate that the pyramidal structures there predate the Egyptian pyramids.

30 posted on 01/20/2006 4:34:19 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Wolfstar
"I don't intend to get into a protracted discussion with you about this. However, the link you provided re Caral does not in any way indicate that the pyramidal structures there predate the Egyptian pyramids."

Yup. It's something I read recently.

31 posted on 01/20/2006 4:37:01 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

BTW, a Google search on Hellinkon pyramid and +Hellinkon +pyramid turns up no results. Quite interesting for such an important site, don't you think?


32 posted on 01/20/2006 4:38:19 PM PST by Wolfstar ("We must...all hang together or...we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Wolfstar
"BTW, a Google search on Hellinkon pyramid and +Hellinkon +pyramid turns up no results. Quite interesting for such an important site, don't you think?"

LOL. I agree. I got the same results. (I'll do some looking around.)

33 posted on 01/20/2006 4:46:05 PM PST by blam
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To: Wolfstar
Go here.

"The oldest pyramid is that of Hellinikon in Greece, dating from 2,720 BC. There are more than 16 pyramids spread all over Greece. (See Hellenic Pyramids.)"

34 posted on 01/20/2006 4:50:15 PM PST by blam
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To: Wolfstar
The Pyramid Of Hellenicon

2720 BC

35 posted on 01/20/2006 5:07:51 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
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36 posted on 01/20/2006 10:48:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: blam

http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21104a/e211da11.html

The "Pyramid" of Hellenikon

According to evidence from the excavations and the typical features of the structure which dates to the end of the 4th century B.C. and not to the prehistoric period, as some scientists have been recently willing to demonstrate. During the later years of Antiquity, the "Pyramid" was considered as a burial monument , a "polyandreion", while nowadays there is no doubt that it was a fort of the type of small strong-holds which controlled the arterial roads and which are known from other regions of the Argolid.


37 posted on 01/20/2006 10:53:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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Surprise, surprise, surprise. This "pyramid"-finding "archaeologist" isn't either one:
The World of the Maya
by Sam Osmanagich
[English version]
linked from...
I mentioned earlier the Maya "keepers of knowledge" who are even today left on the planet. In the book "The Mayan Factor" (by Dr.José Arguelles, 1987), I came across this: In the beginning of 1985 I was contacted by a Maya by the name of Humbatz Men. In our conversations I learned that he was using seventeen different Mayan calendars. Archeologists know about only six of them. I met Humbatz finally in Boulder, Colorado where he was giving a lecture entitled "the Astronomy of the Maya." The key part of his presentation and his knowledge was given in his concluding remarks. Humbatz stated that our solar system is the seventh such system which has been mapped by the Maya so far.


38 posted on 05/03/2006 11:40:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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