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Fan Wants Apology from Davis; Knicks Player Says No
Yahoo News & Associated Press ^ | January 20, 2006 | David Brummer

Posted on 01/20/2006 4:50:19 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds

The fan accused of harassing the wife of New York Knicks forward Antonio Davis will drop threats of a lawsuit if the couple says it's sorry, the man's attorney said Friday.

No way, Davis said.

"I'm not apologizing to anybody for anything," Davis said on a conference call. "I don't think that my wife did anything wrong, I don't think that I did anything wrong."

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Axelrod's [the Fan's] father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley.

(Excerpt) Read more at sports.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: New York
KEYWORDS: apology; axelrod; basketball; bulls; clinton; daley; knicks; lawsuit; nba; obama; sports
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Something from the world of sports you won't believe... combines prominent Democrat political consultant (friends of Sens. Obama and Clinton and Mayor Daley) who is father of the guy allegedly abusing a Knicks player's wife in the stands. Way to go, Hillary! You keep working for your constituents!
1 posted on 01/20/2006 4:50:22 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Ohmigawd! Somebody put two and two together. I think Davis is the GOOD guy here - I said so from the get-go even before knowing the ID of the "fan".

I'm about ready to dash off a letter to the NBA telling them they went WAY overboard in suspending Davis for 5 days.

CONTACT THE NBA

2 posted on 01/20/2006 4:54:03 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

You think Davis is the good guy?

Have you seen the video? The guy in the stands was just sitting there and Davis's wife went berserk and jumped up and got in his face. The guy was the one that called security, not Davis's wife.

It doesn't matter who this guy is--you don't need some player's wife jumping up and hitting you in the face during a basketball game.


3 posted on 01/20/2006 4:56:16 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

His wife has a history of getting in other people's faces. Players are supposed to be severely fined and/or suspended for going into the stands.

I saw the tape. She was up screaming n his face while he was signaling for security.

Democrat or not. I hope he sues this overpaid moron AND the NBA.


4 posted on 01/20/2006 4:57:43 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

A dimocrap, harassing a woman and suing thereafter claiming victimhood after the woman's husband "looks" at him??? Too good to be true. They cannot make up stuff like this!


5 posted on 01/20/2006 4:58:11 PM PST by caisson71
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To: toddlintown

The wife only turned around AFTER the verbal abuse - profanity, etc, etc. Been there and done that, in another forum and another situation.


6 posted on 01/20/2006 5:04:20 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: caisson71
A white dimocrap, harassing a black woman and suing thereafter claiming victimhood after the black woman's husband "looks" at him??? Too good to be true. They cannot make up stuff like this!

ML/NJ

7 posted on 01/20/2006 5:19:52 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Apparently this is a mother-nuturing thing for you.

You climb into the stands, you get sued or jailed. Period.


8 posted on 01/20/2006 5:20:42 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: Publius Valerius

Did the video you refer to show the wife hitting the guy in the face, as you say?


9 posted on 01/20/2006 5:25:25 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: toddlintown
His wife has a history of getting in other people's faces

Got a link for that?

10 posted on 01/20/2006 5:26:54 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Agreed the white dude was being the ass, and only quieted down after the black woman got all up in his grill. He knew to sit down and shutup when her husband came up there. To Davis' credit, he didn't show up throwing haymakers. His wife may be a loudmouth, but it is his wife. Kudos to him for standing up for his family. The rich white Democrat needs a a'whooping.


11 posted on 01/20/2006 5:28:46 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

We can look at the whole tape and ask what Davis would have done if he had perfect information. But he didn't. He saw the possibility that she might be in trouble. A good man stands up for his wife. Maybe it was a mistake, but no one was hurt. The whole matter should just be dropped.


12 posted on 01/20/2006 5:29:48 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Publius Valerius
The guy in the stands was just sitting there and Davis's wife went berserk and jumped up and got in his face. The guy was the one that called security, not Davis's wife.

WHy would he call security? Doesn't pass the smell test.

Can anyone post a link to the video? I've seen it dozens of times, albeit while drinking coffee and changing diapers early this am.... IIRC the video doesn't show what the initial cause was.

13 posted on 01/20/2006 5:30:45 PM PST by Principled
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To: daybreakcoming

I honestly can't remember; I haven't seen the video in a number of days and I've looked for it on the Internet for a minute and I couldn't find it. Regardless, the video supports the fan's version of the story.


14 posted on 01/20/2006 5:31:19 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Principled

You wouldn't call security if you're sitting in the stands and a stranger gets into your face and starts yelling and sticking her finger into your face and hitting you?


15 posted on 01/20/2006 5:32:39 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
Axelrod's [the Fan's] father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley.

The son better get back on Hillary's plantation before he is exposed as a racist!

16 posted on 01/20/2006 5:33:38 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Publius Valerius

Do you know for a fact that he was not yelling obscenities within earshot of the players children, (as has been reported/).


17 posted on 01/20/2006 5:35:09 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: mrmargaritaville

He probably was, I don't have a reason to doubt that. That sort of stuff happens a lot at sporting events. Pretty much every game I go to, actually.


18 posted on 01/20/2006 5:36:04 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
You wouldn't call security if you're sitting in the stands and a stranger gets into your face and starts yelling and sticking her finger into your face and hitting you?

Well first of all, why did the woman get into his face and start yelling, sticking finger in face and hitting? There must be a reason. People don't do that without a reason.

Secondly, I would not call security unless unless I feared for my safety or I thought I needed to make a huge deal of her actions in order to obscure my own.

A grown man does not call security on a screaming lady.

The guy who goes into the stands and begins beating up a rowdy fan gets 7 days... and this guy gets 5 days?

19 posted on 01/20/2006 5:39:23 PM PST by Principled
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To: ml/nj
A white dimocrap, harassing a black woman and suing thereafter claiming victimhood after the black woman's husband "looks" at him??? Too good to be true. They cannot make up stuff like this!

And then the harasser wants the woman's husband to make a donation to a charity that tries to prevent violence against women and children!

BWAHAHAHA!!!!!

Where do they find these people?

20 posted on 01/20/2006 5:40:04 PM PST by Drew68
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To: caisson71
A dimocrap, harassing a woman and suing thereafter claiming victimhood after the woman's husband "looks" at him???

and they say the republican act like they own a plantation

21 posted on 01/20/2006 5:40:09 PM PST by mware (The keeper of the I's once again.)
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To: Principled

I don't know why people get into other peoples' faces and start yelling. I don't do that, I don't know what possesses other people to do that. In a civilized society, people don't do that.

But she did. And you wouldn't have called security, but I would have if I would have been him. I don't like people to get in my face and yell at me. I might not have called security right away--I probably would have told her to sit down and shut up, but if she didn't, sure--I'd call security. Just because you're a woman doesn't mean you get a free pass and go around acting like an ass.


22 posted on 01/20/2006 5:42:39 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
I don't know why people get into other peoples' faces and start yelling. I don't do that, I don't know what possesses other people to do that. In a civilized society, people don't do that.

Oh, I dunno, maybe a pompous 22-year old spoiled child of a corrupt Democrat cussing and being obnoxious around her children? In a civilized society, people don't do that. It is a public venue, you do NOT have a right to cuss up a storm, no matter how much you paid for your ticket. Act like a brat and a woman may treat you like a brat.

23 posted on 01/20/2006 5:47:39 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (I shot the SHERiff....I shot the sherRIFFFF....I SHOT the sheriff....I shot THE sheriff...)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

No, he probably shouldn't have been cursing, if he was. But, two wrongs don't make a right--and it's not like it's unexpected; I'm sure that she hears it ALL THE TIME. I hear it all the time when I go to a sporting event, and I don't even go all that often.

I walk down the street and I hear people cursing. Should they be cursing? No, it's rude--do I get in their face and yell at them? Don't do that either. At the office I hear secretaries cursing. Should they? No. Do I yell at them and stick my finger in their face? Nope, don't do that either.


24 posted on 01/20/2006 5:50:39 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

The possibilities are endless. The likelihood is that the guy was using foul and/or bigoted language directed toward this lady's husband.


25 posted on 01/20/2006 5:55:44 PM PST by Principled
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To: Principled

Ok, so?

Again, as if this isn't an every night occurrence in the NBA? Even if he was cursing and yelling at the players or her husband, that doesn't excuse her reaction. She was wrong.

What, hecklers in a basketball game? No...


26 posted on 01/20/2006 5:57:42 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

I saw the video when it first came out but did not see her striking him in the face. She looked like she was giving him what-for though for some reason and that is what we don't know....what happened/what was said prior to the camera turning on them.


27 posted on 01/20/2006 6:00:48 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Publius Valerius

It is one thing to cuss around adults, and quite another to cuss around other people's kids. Plus you have no idea what he said, it could have been pretty vile. Whether cussing or vile talk is becoming common at games is irrelevant, it is still inexcusable, no matter how much you try to make excuses for it. Frankly I'm fed up with boorishness in public, and tell someone to pipe down whenever they start up with the cursing. Good for her for confronting him if that indeed was the case.


28 posted on 01/20/2006 6:01:03 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (I shot the SHERiff....I shot the sherRIFFFF....I SHOT the sheriff....I shot THE sheriff...)
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To: Principled
Well first of all, why did the woman get into his face and start yelling, sticking finger in face and hitting? There must be a reason. People don't do that without a reason.

Sounds like you don't get out in public much.

29 posted on 01/20/2006 6:02:25 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Diddle E. Squat

As I said before, two wrongs don't make a right. Whether you think it's boorish for people to curse in public, people do. That's just the way it is.

She did what she did and now she's getting sued. She can deal with the consequences.


30 posted on 01/20/2006 6:02:58 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: daybreakcoming

Like I said, I don't remember; but he said that she hit him and given the Davis's initial version of the story and his initial version of the story and the video, he certainly seems to be the more credible of the lot. Moreover, offering to drop the suit in exchange for an apology also bolsters his credibility in my mind.

As you note, we don't know what happened before the camera was on him--my guess is that he was heckling the players, and I think he admitted as much when he was talking about things afterword. Like I said before, though, that doesn't excuse her reaction--she was out of line, and now she (and her husband) are paying the price.


31 posted on 01/20/2006 6:06:17 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius

As I remember it Antonio Davis was a real clean kid when he played at UTEP.


32 posted on 01/20/2006 6:10:18 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: Drew68
Where do they find these people?

In the Demo-crap party. Michael Axelrod's father, David, is a MAJOR player in Dem political campaigns.

33 posted on 01/20/2006 6:10:30 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Publius Valerius
At the office I hear secretaries cursing. Should they? No. Do I yell at them and stick my finger in their face? Nope, don't do that either.

But I sure would tell them how unprofessional that kind of behavior is and report it to their superior(s).

34 posted on 01/20/2006 6:11:52 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Publius Valerius
She did what she did and now she's getting sued.

I can't wait to hear what she has to say about David Axelrod's kid's behavior. This is gonna get really good!

35 posted on 01/20/2006 6:13:09 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: csmusaret

I don't mind Davis; I kind of like him, actually--I'm a Pacers fan going way back, but I just think they were wrong here.

But five games is about right, and it should have been about what Artest got last year too, in my opinion.


36 posted on 01/20/2006 6:14:35 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
Again, as if this isn't an every night occurrence in the NBA?

If it is an every night occurrence, why did either of them cause this mess? Messes like this aren't an every night occurrenc in the NBA.

Something is obviously different and exceptional about this situation.

Calling a player the N word with some other unpleasant adjectives would not be "heckling", and doing so repeatedly after being asked to stop is not "heckling", and continuing to do it in front of the recipient's children and wife are not "heckling" either. We don't know exactly what he did, but we can be assured is wasn't simple, everyday heckling.

Heckling is indeed an everyday occurrence in the NBA, which is one of the reasons this is obviously not heckling - unless the woman is a mentally ill, violent freak... which she may be!

37 posted on 01/20/2006 6:14:47 PM PST by Principled
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To: ml/nj

I'm laughing till my sides hurt since you put it that way!!


38 posted on 01/20/2006 6:17:20 PM PST by caisson71
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To: Principled
we can be assured is wasn't simple, everyday heckling.

We can? How?

All we know is that she went ape. That's not normal behavior. We also know that the Davis's version of the story, is, at best, suspect.

I think the only reason most of you are jumping all over this guy is because his old man is a democratic fund-raiser. If he would have been a run of the mill fan, I imagine that the point of view of a lot of folks on here would be different.

39 posted on 01/20/2006 6:19:01 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
I think the only reason most of you are jumping all over this guy is because his old man is a democratic fund-raiser.

Why do you think that?

40 posted on 01/20/2006 6:22:27 PM PST by Principled
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To: Principled
A grown man does not call security on a screaming lady.

What exactly does he do - knock her on her butt?

41 posted on 01/20/2006 6:24:24 PM PST by meyer (Dems are stuck on stupid. Al Gore invented stupid.)
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To: Principled

Because I see that as general attitude on this site--and even look no further than this thread--how many people have been bringing up that this guy (or, more accurately, his old man) is a Democrat. Does that have anything to do with who's right or wrong?

I may be wrong about this; there's obviously no way of knowing, but it's my suspicion.


42 posted on 01/20/2006 6:24:57 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
I think the fan should sue the punk. And file assault charges against his partner/wife/whatever she is. The NBA will become even more of a turdworld horse's ass comedy if they keep letting scumbags run from the floor into the stands. I'm not a fan anyway, since it's a phoney version of the game, but that's MHO.
43 posted on 01/20/2006 6:25:02 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Publius Valerius
Because I see that as general attitude on this site--and even look no further than this thread--how many people have been bringing up that this guy (or, more accurately, his old man) is a Democrat.

Perhaps your suspicions should be focused on those individuals.

I don't care who his dad is. I think he got drunk and screwed up.

44 posted on 01/20/2006 6:30:09 PM PST by Principled
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To: Principled

I wasn't focusing my statement at you--just in general.

But I also think it's clear now that he wasn't drunk--Davis said that he was, but I've heard that wasn't the case.


45 posted on 01/20/2006 6:31:48 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: ReleaseTheHounds

As you noted...the article says:

"Axelrod's father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley."


46 posted on 01/20/2006 6:49:14 PM PST by AlaninSA (It's one nation under God -- brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: Publius Valerius

Where is the video???>


47 posted on 01/20/2006 7:48:06 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: Publius Valerius
I think the only reason most of you are jumping all over this guy is because his old man is a democratic fund-raiser.

That's not true Pub. I had stated my thoughts in an earlier thread and did not know it until this article. But I have not see any video of her striking the man, as you say. All I have seen was her getting in his face verbally. Now, why would she do that without reason....even if she is a hellion. I believe he was most likely deliberately antagonizing her any way he could just for the attention. I would bet he is embarrassed and trying to cover after he saw the tape.......probably taking a lot of ragging from his friends - thus the lawsuit threat, etc.

48 posted on 01/20/2006 7:58:49 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Publius Valerius
I said Davis was a good guy the other day on another thread WAY before we knew who the heckler was. Take a look right here. There were many of us who felt the same way I did.

It's just fitting and more than a bit ironic, imo, that this heckler has turned out to be the son of one of the major Dem operatives in the entire country, that's all.

49 posted on 01/20/2006 8:18:03 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: cubreporter

"Where is the video???>"

Try this link. Go to the column on this page that says video on demand. Scroll to "Knicks player jumps into stands to defend wife." The entire video is a pretty through account of everything.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/#


50 posted on 01/21/2006 4:30:47 AM PST by Mila
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